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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18719399 - 08/17/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've never dunked any oyster subs after fruiting. Anyone else do that? I typically always give them a good spraying.
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
#18730614 - 08/20/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hellooo
I'm still not getting pins. i'm starting to worry a little bit.
I've been soaking the towel and the sheet a couple times a day with a few fanning sessions and multiple misting sessions as well. The mycelium isnt fluffy anymore (the water has started to flatten it). I'm wondering if i need to fan more than 3-4 times a day.
Basically, i've been 'opening' the sheets up, fanning, misting and let it sit like that for maybe 10-15 mintues and then spray some more to bring the RH back up a little bit before i close the sheets. The RH gets as low as 75%-80% and the temps are pretty constant between about 58°F (At night) and about 65°F (During day).
So there is This guide to measuring light using a DSLR (which i can do) to determine if the lighting is sufficient according to stamets. I'm wondering if that is worthwhile. I also read about a plastic bag as a humidity tent and direct sunlight (RR said that on a post from november some years ago), which i'm afraid to do because direct sunlight in a bag might be too warm right now (its about 75-80°F during the day). If i did use a plastic bag does it need to be clear? or would a 'white' (translucent) bag suffice -- like a grocery bag.
I'm only getting worried/impatient because i fear mold will start growing, or something else might happen that prevents fruiting (if not, i'm willing to just keep this routine until september months, but i have a STRONG feeling these oysters shouldnt be this stubborn...)
I'll also refer to this post where he states the RH and the temp (which is really similar to mine, if not more undesirable).... so.... it must be light????
I'm getting my heart hurt a little bit!
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psilocybebonsai
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Did i speak too soon?
so they're only pinning on the top where the mycelium has been 'flattened' from my misting. would it be wise to mist the sides more 'directly' to help get them the same about as the top pins?
First small cluster i saw.
all of visible clusters highlighted in green.

guys... i'm so happy right now...
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See, no need to overthink the oysters
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: Forrester]
#18744022 - 08/22/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, things have been going great over the pasttwo and a half days!
Below i've attached a couple images of where i'm at and i'm very happy. I have 4 of these baskets total and 1 is also coming along, another is pinning and the last one i put in is still pending.
So, looking at the images below, how do i know when to harvest? I see some people with huge oysters but because these are all cloned from a cluster that wasnt particularly massive, i am wondering what i should look for when deciding harvest, aside from comparing these clusters to the cluster i cloned from.
My guess on deciding maturity is when the cap changes from a dark grey to a lighter brownish color and possibly slightly larger. Aside from that i have no idea what the keys to look for are.
Thanks guys. i'm really happy and cant wait to snack on these luscious suckers. Its been painful trying not to touch them and love them like the babies that they are, but i have refrained!!
two shots from the same day. Different angles.

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Edited by psilocybebonsai (08/22/13 07:40 PM)
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Don't let the caps flatten out. From the looks of your pics they are not going to get huge. They are probably going to be ready really soon, like less than a day or so.
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: Jeff]
#18744109 - 08/22/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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very interesting. I'll probably print one so i can possibly get a more robust strain from it.
its crazy, only about 3 days after pin and they're good to go!
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Cheers to the first of many
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18744298 - 08/22/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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so, question. when i harvest these guys do i just harvest the mature ones and let the other ones grow? I feel like that might not be true. once a 'good enough' amount of them are mature i should clear the whole basket and wait a week then dunk; is that right? there are holes on the bottom side of the basket and some are growing down there and i'm thinking they still have a bit to grow. so maybe harvest the 'ready' ones tonight, then wait another day or two for the others and clear the basket?
also, i was searching around on the forum about how to tell when to harvest and saw some stuff from RR explaining why some people's flushes suck. I feel mine are 'pretty' healthy, but comparing to RR's, mine seem to have more stem than what could be. Is that the genes, perhaps? Is that conditions? if so what kind? A combination of the two? I know that CO2 makes wonky shapes and the FAE will make coral-esque caps... so i guess the only thing left for my stems would be the genes?
thxxxx
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Long stems are an indication of high CO2. You probably looked at extremes though. Coral grows are what I would call worst case.
Harvest as they mature. No need to do the whole block at once. Let the smaller ones grow out.
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: Jeff]
#18744469 - 08/22/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh wow i fanned them frequently (or so i thought). i'll make sure to fan more often.
is there such thing as TOO much misting? I assume not, my mushroom baskets look like they're in the middle of a rainstorm 24/7. i try to mist heavily so that the water gets deep into the basket, and i try to at least lightly mist the fruits as i see them lacking glossiness.
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You won't want them overly wet near harvest time for preservation's sake. Standing water and too much wetness seems to encourage bacterial development too. Just find balance.
With oysters, during fruiting, it doesn't seem to be about fanning as much as constant airflow, even if slight. They reach out in any stuffiness. I use a GH with unzipped doors but the best thing for it in my case is the drafty garage its in, with outdoor air wafting.
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18744567 - 08/22/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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hmm okay. in the day it still reaches pretty warm temps for these guys and i fear the mycelium drying out, which i read is oyster pet-peeves so i dont wanna do that. decisions, decisions. i guess for the next fruits i'll figure something out. maybe i'll cut little circles throughout the sheet so that the air can flow better.
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Sometimes people use those cool mist style humdifiers too, for piping fresh air in. I had fun playing McGiver with mine last fall, using a bleach bottle, a vacuum hose, and silicone to pipe it .
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18749662 - 08/23/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your environment is outdoors correct? Jeff is correct about long stems but i'm pretty sure with your fruiting chamber being outdoors that it is likely getting enough fae. I'm guessing the strain you cloned is of P. pulmonarius with the legnth of the stems. They do still seem long but not too far off for some P. pulms. i've grown lately and seen others do. I wonder if it could have something to do with them seeking out more light? Do you ever crack that sheet? If not it could be a mix of co2 levels and sunlight. Best thing to do is keep those things coming and mess with your setup til they're coming out good. Thats the fun part
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
#18749765 - 08/24/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah i considered what jeff said which might be true.
Since its my first P. grow i had no idea what the parameters were looking like, except temp and humidity. Since i read Jeff's post about the long stems i decided to leave the sheet lifted almost completely during the cooler hours. I may mist more, but the FAE will definitely increase. Keep in mind, i have FOUR of these green things and probably around 8-10lbs of colonized mycelium, so i'm guessing that CO2 could have been better (regardless of the stemmy species).
Here is a photo from what i harvested. i ate one fresh and i have to say, you can taste the quality difference from the day or so old market mushrooms.. the texture was surprisingly better. I then cooked them with some garlic powder, butter and pepper and the taste is a lot different, and very, very yummy.
Here is a photo of what i harvested, i'll try to get a shot of what i have now (new mushrooms to be harvested soon). But, i cant upload too many more new pics because i'm working on an ID thread (nudge nudge, check it out!! )


omnomnomnom
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Edited by psilocybebonsai (08/24/13 12:21 AM)
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Congratulations! Looks like they grew to a fair size
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Re: Oysters aren't pinning -- what to do? [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
#18784059 - 09/01/13 03:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by psilocybebonsai (09/01/13 03:46 AM)
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That's awesome I love the timelapse. I've been wanting to do one of those since I started growing but still haven't.
Yeah in my experience larger substrates are more likely to give larger fruits. That's why I love 5 gallon buckets for oysters. (when I can fruit them outside)
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