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Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement * 6
    #18781124 - 08/31/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

(All I gotta say is: Cry me a river, piggies. :razz: )

The Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- A broad coalition of law enforcement officers who have spent the past three decades waging an increasingly militarized drug war that has failed to reduce drug use doesn't want to give up the fight.

Organizations that include sheriffs, narcotics officers and big-city police chiefs slammed Attorney General Eric Holder in a joint letter Friday, expressing "extreme disappointment" at his announcement that the Department of Justice would allow Colorado and Washington to implement state laws that legalized recreational marijuana for adults.

If there had been doubt about how meaningful Holder's move was, the fury reflected in the police response eliminates it. The role of law enforcement is traditionally understood to be limited to enforcing laws, but police organizations have become increasingly powerful political actors, and lashed out at Holder for not consulting sufficiently before adopting the new policy.

"It is unacceptable that the Department of Justice did not consult our organizations -- whose members will be directly impacted -- for meaningful input ahead of this important decision," the letter reads. "Our organizations were given notice just thirty minutes before the official announcement was made public and were not given the adequate forum ahead of time to express our concerns with the Department’s conclusion on this matter. Simply 'checking the box' by alerting law enforcement officials right before a decision is announced is not enough and certainly does not show an understanding of the value the Federal, state, local and tribal law enforcement partnerships bring to the Department of Justice and the public safety discussion."

The missive was signed by the Major County Sheriffs’ Association, the National Sheriffs’ Association,
the Association of State Criminal Investigative Agencies, the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the National Narcotic Officers Associations’ Coalition, the Major Cities Chiefs Police Association and the Police Executive Research Forum.

Law enforcement, the police groups said, "becomes infinitely harder for our front-line men and women given the Department’s position."

The Justice Department declined to respond.

Local law enforcement agencies rely heavily on the drug war for funding. Police departments are often able to keep a large portion of the assets they seize during drug raids, even if charges are never brought. And federal grants for drug war operations make up a sizable portion of local law enforcement funding.

The letter warns that marijuana can cause suicidal thoughts, impairs driving and is a "gateway drug." The missive does not, however, address the failure of law enforcement generally to reduce drug use, even while tripling the number of people behind bars. Instead, the police warn that liberalizing pot laws will lead to an increase in crime.

"The decision will undoubtedly have grave unintended consequences, including a reversal of the declining crime rates that we as law enforcement practitioners have spent more than a decade maintaining," the officers write.

Worse, they warn, more states are likely to follow Washington and Colorado.

"The failure of the Department of Justice to challenge state policies that clearly contradict Federal law is both unacceptable and unprecedented. The failure of the Federal government to act in this matter is an open invitation to other states to legalize marijuana in defiance of federal law," they write.


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: Le_Canard]
    #18781356 - 08/31/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

A victory for peace


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: Le_Canard] * 3
    #18781366 - 08/31/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Oh god, unemployed cops, less people in prison, less crime, more freedom...how dare you Washington?! How are they going to feed their families now? Did you think about THAT? DID YOU?!


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18781410 - 08/31/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

"...[We] were not given the adequate forum ahead of time to express our concerns with the Department’s conclusion
on this matter..." - response from law officials and officers...
And I'm sure they're in the right here, as they no doubt have never done anything like this to an opposition in
order to help things swing their way. They're grasping at straws; this shit has been going down for SEVERAL months,
and had been proposed many months before THAT. To say they were not allotted ample time sounds like it was just
the first (or only) excuse they could come up with to combat something going through they didn't like.

Just my :2cents:


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: eriatarka] * 6
    #18781463 - 08/31/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Because if they had been given more time, surely they would have been able to convince people that putting people in jail for marijuana is a good idea.  Not just a good idea, a great idea!  People just need convincing, thats all...


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18781627 - 08/31/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Their statements are so backwards. It sounds like something out of the 60s:
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"The decision will undoubtedly have grave unintended consequences, including a reversal of the declining crime rates that we as law enforcement practitioners have spent more than a decade maintaining," the officers write.




Yeah, because of all those dangerous marijuana users! Who knows who they'll rape next.
:wtfsonic:

This also implies that the declining crime rate has been directly because of imprisoning pot smokers. Further, it implies that use of pot has gone down over the past decade, when in fact pot use has gone up as crime has decreased.


Edited by nooneman (08/31/13 02:59 PM)


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: nooneman] * 4
    #18781691 - 08/31/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

pot use goes up...crime goes down!

up with hope..and up with dope!


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: hTx] * 3
    #18781715 - 08/31/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i think the police reaction is absolutely hilarious


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: hTx] * 5
    #18781721 - 08/31/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Local law enforcement agencies rely heavily on the drug war for funding. Police departments are often able to keep a large portion of the assets they seize during drug raids, even if charges are never brought. And federal grants for drug war operations make up a sizable portion of local law enforcement funding.




And right there lies the problem.


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: wildernessjunkie] * 1
    #18781935 - 08/31/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

the fact that police officers are usually only have jurisdiction over cities and townships, not state and federal combined with statements like;

The letter warns that marijuana can cause suicidal thoughts, impairs driving and is a "gateway drug." The missive does not, however, address the failure of law enforcement generally to reduce drug use, even while tripling the number of people behind bars. Instead, the police warn that liberalizing pot laws will lead to an increase in crime.

...tells me that they are completely fucking retarded.  all eric holder said was that the feds will respect state laws which police officers already have to do and what the states have the right to do anyway.


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: wildernessjunkie] * 1
    #18781942 - 08/31/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

wildernessjunkie said:
Quote:

Local law enforcement agencies rely heavily on the drug war for funding. Police departments are often able to keep a large portion of the assets they seize during drug raids, even if charges are never brought. And federal grants for drug war operations make up a sizable portion of local law enforcement funding.




And right there lies the problem.





so basically the cops are pissed that the government will be getting money that was formerly from drug busts and drug bust funding, that will now be going to other parts of government through sales tax.  they are upset about their loss of money and power.  boo hoo.  this is a gain in liberty for citizens.


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: Le_Canard] * 10
    #18781974 - 08/31/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Fucking cry babies.  Bawling out loud because now they're going to have to mix it up with real criminals like rapists, murderers, kidnappers, etc. instead of just coasting along busting the quiet, unassuming average Joe for a joint or  a tiny fraction of an ounce of pot.

Oh, the tragedy!!  :foreheadslap:

Welcome to the REAL world officer, where people actually do the IMPORTANT aspects of the jobs they were hired to do.

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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: Nature Boy] * 1
    #18782192 - 08/31/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I must say reading that article gave me a bit of an erection...:happyweed:


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: MagicMaker] * 1
    #18782262 - 08/31/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Local law enforcement agencies rely heavily on the drug war for funding. Police departments are often able to keep a large portion of the assets they seize during drug raids, even if charges are never brought. And federal grants for drug war operations make up a sizable portion of local law enforcement funding.




Quote:


Police departments are often able to keep a large portion of the assets they seize during drug raids, even if charges are never brought.





Quote:

...even if charges are never brought.




Why would they willingly give up the right to reach into the pocket of anyone they come across and keep whatever they like?  How else are they going to pay for armored personnel carriers and training for paramilitary units?

Quote:

Oh god, unemployed cops, less people in prison, less crime, more freedom...how dare you Washington?!




I hope you aren't insinuating that it's wrong to lock people up for a victimless crime and detain them indefinitely so an uneducated workforce doesn't have to find something actually useful to do to justify their jobs.  Here in 'Murica if you learned a job and that job is no longer needed, everyone else needs to pitch in to support it so you can keep doing what no one needs, because that's your job and that's what you said you want to do.


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: Le_Canard] * 2
    #18782312 - 08/31/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i wonder what in the fuck those pigs were thinking, making a public outcry about that. how would that magically make any difference whatsoever :lol: stupid cops..


i mean " the law is the law" right officer? :rofl:


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: OrgasmicBanana] * 1
    #18782516 - 08/31/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

THIS:

Quote:

OrgasmicBanana said:
Oh god, unemployed cops, less people in prison, less crime, more freedom...how dare you Washington?! How are they going to feed their families now? Did you think about THAT? DID YOU?!





and:

Quote:

whose members will be directly impacted


  sorry did you mean, since you're gang isn't allowed to MURDER CITIZENS AND STEAL THEIR PROPERTY ANYMORE you'll have to find some other way to make a few extra dollars??

well sucks to be you--- maybe invest more time persuing the cocaine and heroin trade.


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: travelleler]
    #18782716 - 08/31/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

HAHA!


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: withoutawire]
    #18782792 - 08/31/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

The letter warns that marijuana can cause suicidal thoughts, impairs driving and is a "gateway drug." The missive does not, however, address the failure of law enforcement generally to reduce drug use, even while tripling the number of people behind bars. Instead, the police warn that liberalizing pot laws will lead to an increase in crime.




None of the cops I've met in real life are like this, these are fucking straight up pigs


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #18783180 - 08/31/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This backlash was entirely predictable. Not only will neo drug warriors have to feel what it is like to be looking for a new career in the middle of thier life, they also have to admit they backed the wrong side.It is not over, only beginning.


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Re: Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement [Re: Rockhound] * 1
    #18784009 - 09/01/13 03:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Remember this next time a pig says they don't make the laws, they just enforce them. Seems they are trying damn hard to make the laws. Doesn't matter that the voters of WA and CO wanted it. They seem to forget they work for the taxpayers.
Now go find the guy whole stole my bike, I know its harder than ripping off drug dealers, but try to act like you want to fight real crime. FFS it's just pot too, you have decades of drug war ahead of you piggies even if pot becomes legal in every state.


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