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If you're offended by Team America World Police or Borat you have missed the point and the creators did their jobs.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: Murph]
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: NWlight]
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I can't get offended anymore (I just read a book by Sarah Silverman... yuck)
Im just looking at what is racist and why is it funny. It doesn't bother me that it's funny, but it shapes people's minds to think about people in a certain way. I don't think it's good for humor to be racist regardless of how funny it is.
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Fuck that listen to some Chris Rock he'll break it down for you.
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I don't think racist humor teaches people to be racist. in fact I think it can dispel a lot of misunderstandings between cultures by exaggerating how ridiculous racism really is
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: NWlight]
#18781991 - 08/31/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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exaggerating how ridiculous racism really is
but doesn't this cheapen our own existence? and maybe make racism look attractive? Maybe we should just keep racism a bad thing and be mean to it no matter if it is funny or not.
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lazyfingers said: Im just looking at what is racist and why is it funny. It doesn't bother me that it's funny, but it shapes people's minds to think about people in a certain way. I don't think it's good for humor to be racist regardless of how funny it is.
I don't think the humor in that movie has much to do with purported "racial" attributes at all. It's culture that's being made fun of for the most part. Even the blackface thing is not really racial humor IMO. The joke is that the disguise is shitty, not that Middle Eastern people have dark skin.
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exaggerating how ridiculous racism really is
but doesn't this cheapen our own existence? and maybe make racism look attractive? Maybe we should just keep racism a bad thing and be mean to it no matter if it is funny or not.
Interesting to me how you are personifying racism.
what do you mean by we should "be mean to racism"?
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: NWlight]
#18782021 - 08/31/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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well im thinking, that everyone has a race (so we're all a little racist) ,but liking racist humor should always be looked down on instead of celebrated, just because it's racist.
that's what I mean by being mean.
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If everyone's overly afraid of being seen as racist then you run into problems too though. IMO culture should be fair game to poke fun of a little.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: psi]
#18782058 - 08/31/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If everyone's overly afraid of being seen as racist then you run into problems too though.
yes you're right, it's probably a matter of taste, they should label racist things maybe. We need paid multiethnic racism committees, best job ever.
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lazyfingers said: well im thinking, that everyone has a race (so we're all a little racist) ,but liking racist humor should always be looked down on instead of celebrated, just because it's racist.
that's what I mean by being mean.
Abraham Lincoln was a huge fan of colored jokes and he signed the emancipation proclamation
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: NWlight]
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Abraham Lincoln was a huge fan of colored jokes
and he got shot in the head, didn't turn out so well in the long run did it Abe?
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He was probably shot by a racist, however.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: NWlight]
#18782095 - 08/31/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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He was probably shot by a racist, however.
and he died I hope. to drunk for research , need historian
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but that doesn't fully explain the use of blackface as used to entertain real racists. that is an explanation for why, but the reality is still racist, infact it doesn't even attempt to explain anything, it just offers a vehicle for racism.
yeah i know. i just think discrimination or segregation of any human being is wrong and i feel as if there is so much emotion already tied to the very word racism that debating about whether it should be used as an outlet for humor or not is pretty moot. Obviously it is funny but at the same time that humor can be brought out through the feelings of becoming tense at viewing such images that are supposed to make people uncomfortable. Common sense tells me that muslims who wear turbans are not terrorists. Yet i can look at it satirically and laugh.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: jvm]
#18782111 - 08/31/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yet i can look at it satirically and laugh.
the problem with me is every time I see a turban I laugh, but these are normal people not just dot heads. society is making me look down on them.
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if it makes you laugh it's not racist unless you are.
but someone has to say, ok blackface is funny, so is the way they sound, and we can make them stupid and violent.
even though it is totally racist by any objective standard, I find it funny.
You could say it is up to the observer but you'd have to disprove the facts supporting the humor.
If they can't take the joke I say f em Quit being a whiney baby. There are more Polack ,Irish and Italian jokes than you could tell in a lifetime. Why should the Sandniggers get away scott free?
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: vinsue]
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vinsue you're "making me more racist" by posting funny stuff like that, stop it
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