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Icelander
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Is LSD natural?
#18782011 - 08/31/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man made, strange effect but very much like other natural psychedelics, especially Morning Glory seed.
What say you?
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
#18782037 - 08/31/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Short answer: artificial. Long answer: natural.
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Best answer: natural to some, artificial to others, trippy to all.
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: deCypher]
#18782104 - 08/31/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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deCypher said: Best answer:
What if I don't agree?
The most natural explanation is by all means:
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Short answer: artificial. Long answer: natural.
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I think yes. Only reason I say so is because it unoverdoseable. Or extremely difficult. And it feels real god and makes me think I'm smart
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: cez]
#18783860 - 09/01/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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brilliant post.
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
#18783862 - 09/01/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
#18783906 - 09/01/13 01:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The line between natural/unnatural has more subjective connotations than it does logical points imo
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: lolwut]
#18783931 - 09/01/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The fungus that LSD is derived from will make you trip. Perhaps LSD is the trippy part of the fungus without the parts that make you sick/poisoned.
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Is man natural?
And are man-made things unnatural?
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
#18784053 - 09/01/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Man made, strange effect but very much like other natural psychedelics, especially Morning Glory seed.
What say you?
Well, I think that's the point of distinguishing between natural and synthetic drugs, that LSD is man made... Knowing this, you'll probably a better chance of finding some from other people rather than say looking in a field of flowering plants...
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it's comparatively natural:
more natural than computers, cars, and l.e.d. lighting: about the same natural as bicycles, steam engines, whiskey, cities, cotton clothing, books.
not accessible to stone-age people.
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more natural than computers, cars, and l.e.d. lighting: about the same natural as bicycles, steam engines, whiskey, cities, cotton clothing, books.
What made you come to these realizations?
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It just hasn't been found in nature yet.
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go back to 1940 lsd is as natural as a bicycle then. manufactured with similar complexity, and probably safer then as it is now (than a bicycle).
silicon chips are way more unnatural or difficult/complex to manufacture.
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I really don't know how to see anything as unnatural. I understand that humans can manipulate and create but I see nothing coming out of whole cloth. Nature provides man divides.
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silicon chips are way more unnatural or difficult/complex to manufacture.
Why are they way more unnatural? Because they are complex to manufacture?
I am sure these wooden instruments was complex to create as well:

Is manufacture your keyword; why?
Unnatural or artificiality is when humans produce and synthesize but it's ultimately as natural as elephants walking around. I have no metric to determine what is more natural or unnatural when humans produce and synthesize.
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
#18785158 - 09/01/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I really don't know how to see anything as unnatural. I understand that humans can manipulate and create but I see nothing coming out of whole cloth. Nature provides man divides. 
I once had some supernatural LSD made from the faery blood of 4th dimensional hyper elves....
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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
#18786242 - 09/01/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Man made, strange effect but very much like other natural psychedelics, especially Morning Glory seed.
What say you?
I agree with the late Dr. Hofmann, who found the lethargy in Morning Glory seeds to be a real negative. I remember plodding along, despite the intense visuals, and feeling like I wanted to plotz on the ground and melt into the earth. Transmuting Lysergic acid amides into Diethylamide makes all the difference in the world to me. LSD-25 is not natural in that it does not occur in nature spontaneously without the influence of human nature. In this case, I find human intervention most agreeable.
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CosmicJoke said:
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Icelander said: I really don't know how to see anything as unnatural. I understand that humans can manipulate and create but I see nothing coming out of whole cloth. Nature provides man divides. 
I once had some supernatural LSD made from the faery blood of 4th dimensional hyper elves....
I have blotters laced with dihydrogen monoxide! my mom was hooked on that shit when i was born...
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