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Is LSD natural?
    #18782011 - 08/31/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Man made, strange effect but very much like other natural psychedelics, especially Morning Glory seed.

What say you?


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
    #18782037 - 08/31/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Short answer: artificial. Long answer: natural.


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18782074 - 08/31/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Best answer: natural to some, artificial to others, trippy to all.  :psychsplit:


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: deCypher]
    #18782104 - 08/31/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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deCypher said:
Best answer:




What if I don't agree?

The most natural explanation is by all means: 

Quote:

Short answer: artificial. Long answer: natural.




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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18783839 - 09/01/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think yes.
Only reason I say so is because it unoverdoseable.
Or extremely difficult.
And it feels real god and makes me think I'm smart :dawerp:


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: cez]
    #18783860 - 09/01/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

brilliant post. :whoa:


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
    #18783862 - 09/01/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:guiltyascharged:  Thanks


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
    #18783906 - 09/01/13 01:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The line between natural/unnatural has more subjective connotations than it does logical points imo


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: lolwut]
    #18783931 - 09/01/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The fungus that LSD is derived from will make you trip. Perhaps LSD is the trippy part of the fungus without the parts that make you sick/poisoned.


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Molybdites]
    #18784018 - 09/01/13 03:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Is man natural?

And are man-made things unnatural?


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
    #18784053 - 09/01/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Man made, strange effect but very much like other natural psychedelics, especially Morning Glory seed.

What say you?




Well, I think that's the point of distinguishing between natural and synthetic drugs, that LSD is man made... Knowing this, you'll probably a better chance of finding some from other people rather than say looking in a field of flowering plants...


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18784130 - 09/01/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

it's comparatively natural:

more natural than computers, cars, and l.e.d. lighting:
about the same natural as bicycles, steam engines, whiskey, cities, cotton clothing, books.

not accessible to stone-age people.


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #18784144 - 09/01/13 04:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

more natural than computers, cars, and l.e.d. lighting:
about the same natural as bicycles, steam engines, whiskey, cities, cotton clothing, books.


What made you come to these realizations?


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18784153 - 09/01/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It just hasn't been found in nature yet.


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18784406 - 09/01/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

go back to 1940
lsd is as natural as a bicycle then.
manufactured with similar complexity,
and probably safer then as it is now (than a bicycle).

silicon chips are way more unnatural or difficult/complex to manufacture.


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #18784413 - 09/01/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I really don't know how to see anything as unnatural.  I understand that humans can manipulate and create but I see nothing coming out of whole cloth.  Nature provides man divides. :shrug:


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #18784454 - 09/01/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

silicon chips are way more unnatural or difficult/complex to manufacture.

Why are they way more unnatural? Because they are complex to manufacture?

I am sure these wooden instruments was complex to create as well:



Is manufacture your keyword; why?

Unnatural or artificiality is when humans produce and synthesize but it's ultimately as natural as elephants walking around. I have no metric to determine what is more natural or unnatural when humans produce and synthesize.


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
    #18785158 - 09/01/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
I really don't know how to see anything as unnatural.  I understand that humans can manipulate and create but I see nothing coming out of whole cloth.  Nature provides man divides. :shrug:




I once had some supernatural LSD made from the faery blood of 4th dimensional hyper elves....


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: Icelander]
    #18786242 - 09/01/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Man made, strange effect but very much like other natural psychedelics, especially Morning Glory seed.

What say you?




I agree with the late Dr. Hofmann, who found the lethargy in Morning Glory seeds to be a real negative. I remember plodding along, despite the intense visuals, and feeling like I wanted to plotz on the ground and melt into the earth. Transmuting Lysergic acid amides into Diethylamide makes all the difference in the world to me. LSD-25 is not natural in that it does not occur in nature spontaneously without the influence of human nature. In this case, I find human intervention most agreeable.


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Re: Is LSD natural? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18786401 - 09/01/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
I really don't know how to see anything as unnatural.  I understand that humans can manipulate and create but I see nothing coming out of whole cloth.  Nature provides man divides. :shrug:




I once had some supernatural LSD made from the faery blood of 4th dimensional hyper elves....




I have blotters laced with dihydrogen monoxide! :eek: my mom was hooked on that shit when i was born... :sad:


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