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Racist or funny
#18781773 - 08/31/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im having trouble with telling the difference between racism and humor. I don't think racists are funny at all, but why is humor a little racist. case in point
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jvm
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racialism
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An emphasis on race or racial considerations, as in determining policy or interpreting events.
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Murph

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Lil of both.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: Murph]
#18781789 - 08/31/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ooooooh, derka derka derka
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psi
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I don't think it's racist at all. It's poking fun at culture and language, not supposed racial traits. IMO that movie was hilarious.
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lazyfingers
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: jvm]
#18781793 - 08/31/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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An emphasis on race or racial considerations, as in determining policy or interpreting events.
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but that doesn't fully explain the use of blackface as used to entertain real racists. that is an explanation for why, but the reality is still racist, infact it doesn't even attempt to explain anything, it just offers a vehicle for racism.
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if it makes you laugh it's not racist unless you are.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: druqs]
#18781810 - 08/31/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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if it makes you laugh it's not racist unless you are.
but someone has to say, ok blackface is funny, so is the way they sound, and we can make them stupid and violent.
even though it is totally racist by any objective standard, I find it funny.
You could say it is up to the observer but you'd have to disprove the facts supporting the humor.
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Murph

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Well the satire is lost on some people.
Edited by Murph (08/31/13 06:03 PM)
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psi
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IMO the movie is meant to satirize the way America views other cultures (especially in film) just as much as it pokes fun at those cultures themselves. The crummy disguise is funny because it's such a half-assed effort. You would think that they would see right through the disguise but they don't.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: psi]
#18781839 - 08/31/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You would think that they would see right through the disguise but they don't
so we are idiots and the people on the other side are idiots.
it's a balance, but the racism is still motivating it. I don't see irony, please explain.
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Murph

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The whole movie is being satirical it's called team America world police and the theme song is America fuck ya.
Edited by Murph (08/31/13 06:03 PM)
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NWlight
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I would like to think that such race-based humor is funny on the premise that some people out there actually think that way. in other words they are not making fun of the racial group, they are making fun of people who hold legitimate grudges based solely on race.
Dave Chappelle is a shining example. His content is almost all offensive, but it is absolutely hilarious because he is mostly poking fun at the fact that there really are racist people out there.
racist comedy is funny not because its racist, it's funny that there are racists in the first place.
Tl:Dr: Racist humor is making fun of racists, not race.
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Edited by NWlight (08/31/13 04:14 PM)
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: psi]
#18781857 - 08/31/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi
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They are represented as idiots because America sees them as idiots in popular culture. The disguise is mostly a physical comedy type bit though. Hollywood does a terrible job of fake beards in real life.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: NWlight]
#18781871 - 08/31/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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except that we do kick ass and do police the world, that's (partially) truth.
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it's funny that there are racists in the first place.
this is the most American thing I've ever heard.
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NWlight
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lazyfingers said: except that we do kick ass and do police the world, that's (partially) truth.
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it's funny that there are racists in the first place.
this is the most American thing I've ever heard.
haha how is me saying that "American?"
think the idea that some people harbor legitimate racist beliefs is humorous.
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: NWlight]
#18781914 - 08/31/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I find humor in slight racist jokes because it goes both ways, and just a joke
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lazyfingers
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Re: Racist or funny [Re: NWlight]
#18781916 - 08/31/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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but Americans come from a place where things like diversity are not only encouraged, they are enforced. Most countries everyone looks the same.
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NWlight
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lazyfingers said: but Americans come from a place where things like diversity are not only encouraged, they are enforced. Most countries everyone looks the same.
actually I didn't really think of it that way
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