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Buying 'White cap' shrooms?
    #18781765 - 08/31/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hello everybody! This is my first post so sorry if I posted in the wrong place! I'm going to be getting some shrooms off a friend of a friend that said he ran out of gold caps and he only has 'white caps' he says they're extra potent. I looked up 'white caps' and nothing came up, is what he said reliable information or does it seem sketchy?


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18781769 - 08/31/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Seems sketchy to me!


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18781770 - 08/31/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He may be talking about Panaeolus cyanescens, but ultimately you wont know for sure until you see them.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Azmirth]
    #18781772 - 08/31/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

IF they are Panaeolus cyanescens there will be blue bruising that is quite apparent.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18781781 - 08/31/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I plan on pinching them to see if they turn blue or not but i'm just wanting to know if actual 'white cap' mushrooms even exist? I'm not very familiar with mushrooms all I know about is gold caps. Thanks for the help so far! :grin:


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18781800 - 08/31/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

panaeolus cyanescens will have white caps sometimes they have a little gold on the cap. You can attempt to bruise them if they are wet. Panaeolus cyanescens are more potent than your "gold cap" (Psilocybe cubensis) mushroom.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Labs4858]
    #18781815 - 08/31/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds awesome! Thanks for the info you guys are so much more polite and helpful compared to other forums i've been on! I was thinking somebody was gonna troll me and tell me i'm in the wrong thread lol. Loving shroomery so far


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18781823 - 08/31/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well hey welcome to the shroomery! :nyan:

No this thread definitely falls under "identifying" mushrooms! :smile:


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Labs4858]
    #18781837 - 08/31/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They could be albino cubensis, depends on how much you trust the guy I guess. Good luck to you.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18781841 - 08/31/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys I really appreciate the help!


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782099 - 08/31/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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is what he said reliable information or does it seem sketchy?






Sounds super sketchy.  Do not give him any money at all without first posting a pic here and waiting an hour for responses.

The important part is in bold, do not ignore that advice or you will be sorry.

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MDMAce said:
I plan on pinching them to see if they turn blue or not but i'm just wanting to know if actual 'white cap' mushrooms even exist? I'm not very familiar with mushrooms all I know about is gold caps. Thanks for the help so far! :grin:






Lots of species of mushrooms have white caps.  Most do not contain psilocybin.  Its not like you are buying Psilocybe aztecorum here.  Almost all of the mushrooms with white caps that are sold on the black market are purchased from the supermarket.


And your dealer is not going to want to have a conversation with you about how they did not work.....









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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18782493 - 08/31/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He could be talking about albino penis envy, which are indeed extra potent.  And they do have white caps.  (With a blueish tinge.)  Here are some that I grew:



However, he should be able to identify them better -- what type of mushroom are they, for example?  Because people are often sold supermarket mushrooms and ripped off.  Or worse, just some mushrooms someone picked (the results of which could be very bad indeed).

Do you know anyone else who has ever bought mushrooms off this guy?


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Queen of Kings]
    #18782507 - 08/31/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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He could be talking about albino penis envy




Nah its probably oysters or button mushrooms. 


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However, he should be able to identify them better -- what type of mushroom are they, for example?  Because people are often sold supermarket mushrooms and ripped off.  Or worse, just some mushrooms someone picked (the results of which could be very bad indeed).




Yes, if he was an expert in mushroom identification he would probably be tempted to hit his dealer.



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Do you know anyone else who has ever bought mushrooms off this guy?





Good question.    And do you know anyone else who has bought white caps off this guy?  Do you understand that when you switch from regular cubensis to white caps, your probability of getting ripped off goes from 0% up to 99 percent?


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18782542 - 08/31/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just got the shrooms and they seem to be legit. Just got 3/8ths all caps and a few are turning blue. They seem to have a white nipple on the top and a brown stem towards the bottom. They also smell like poop


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782560 - 08/31/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Smelling like poop is not a good sign.  Not sure why they should have a white nipple and brown stem.  That does not sound like any psycheedelic mushroom that I know.  Can you post pics of what you got?


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18782566 - 08/31/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I may be mixing up the nipple with the stem it's kind of hard to tell since they're dried. I'll take some pics right now for you guys.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782604 - 08/31/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782616 - 08/31/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a picture. The one I'm holding in my fingers is the one with the 'nipple' they kind of have a whitish gold hue that the camera doesn't really capture. The two on the bottom I believe are blue around the spores
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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782622 - 08/31/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not sure if you can see that well it was letting me enlarge it before I submitted the post


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    #18782654 - 08/31/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18782665 - 08/31/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am not sure what to say, some of those almost look like sclerotia.  There is a chance that they are magic mushrooms, however if someone tried to sell them to me I would say no.


They look like puffballs and shiitake covered in powdered sugar.

It is basically unknown fungal material.  99% of the time when you buy magic mushrooms, it is clear what species you are getting.  In this case, it is not.  That should be a huge red flag....


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18782670 - 08/31/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah! So what do you think?


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782677 - 08/31/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just say your not gonna take them unless you already paid him. I wouldn't risk it personally.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782680 - 08/31/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well they are turning blue on a few caps so I'm guessing they are indeed active. Would you be interested in hearing a experience report later? I'd be happy to contribute


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782693 - 08/31/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes I am very interested. Proceed at your own risk.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18782697 - 08/31/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah! So what do you think?





I do not see anything about the appearance of that mushroom that indicates that it is a psilocybin containing species.    Maybe it is and maybe it is not, I can not tell what it is.  I would not advise paying money for that or eating it.  Might be....umm....brownies cooked with cubensis rolled in powdered sugar?  Or shiitake rolled in flour?  Oysters from the supermarket?  Death caps and sand?  Hard to say. 

If I was trying to buy magic mushrooms and I was handed this, I would absolutely reject it.  And that is my advice to you.

What do you mean by turning blue on the caps?  Does that mean he sprayed ink on it or something?  Can you post a pic showing this?

Sorry for being skeptical, but given the circumstances and appearance of these mushrooms, extreme skepticism is warranted.  You are being ripped off.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18782738 - 08/31/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lolwut:
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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18782743 - 08/31/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you look on the picture the two shrooms under the one i'm holding have some blue around the spores. I tried rubbing it off thinking it was dirt but it's not. A few others are like that too but around the cap itself. I'll try to take another picture later i'm charging my iPhone right now


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    #18783631 - 09/01/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've come to the conclusion that these are some strange batch of penis envy, there are some shrooms in the other bags I have that strongly resemble them.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18783814 - 09/01/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing that you have posted suggests in any way that these are "penis envy" or any other form of cultivated Psilocybe cubensis.

I would not advise eating them unless you can provide more definitive pictures/information.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: Stopwhispering]
    #18784078 - 09/01/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I ate them and they're very strong :tongue2:


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18784101 - 09/01/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:awelol::winning1:


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    #18784539 - 09/01/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Where are the stems? Very strange indeed.

Could they be button mushrooms dust/ dipped in an RC?

Store boughts have most of the stem trimmed, so might explain that.

An RC of some type would explain the powdery appearance.

OfflineMDMAce:  Was it the usual shroom trip you'd expect? or would you think there's a chance of another chemical at work?


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    #18784673 - 09/01/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have only seen white caps, psychedelic mushrooms growing out of manure once. They turn light blue and are pretty big size. Apparently they only grow up in PA, on Amish Farms.

Here is a link to them. They show a close up in the video. The TV show is Amish Mafia, check it out.

http://www.extratv.com/2013/08/27/sneak-peek-the-amish-mafia-finds-some-crazy-mushrooms/


Maybe your friend saw this episode? These are fake as hell and the show should of disclaimed it. They even put baking soda on the shrooms to kill them. Powdered white shrooms, sound familiar?


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: NGH]
    #18784689 - 09/01/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well? is this guy twitching on the floor in his bathroom or what?


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: TooMuch3]
    #18784833 - 09/01/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"Amish Mafia" wtf??? How low is tv quality these days :rolleyes:


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    #18785320 - 09/01/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys! It was a very wonderful shroom trip (level 4 with about 3 grams) it felt like any other batch of shrooms just really strong visuals I have no idea what kind of shrooms these are but they do indeed work and work well.


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    #18785342 - 09/01/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They were all caps when I bought them. I don't think they were store bought at all. I mentioned earlier that they may be some strange batch of penis envy and i'll upload another picture right now, that might help us figure out this mystery


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: NGH]
    #18785503 - 09/01/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I have only seen white caps, psychedelic mushrooms growing out of manure once. They turn light blue and are pretty big size. Apparently they only grow up in PA, on Amish Farms.

Here is a link to them. They show a close up in the video. The TV show is Amish Mafia, check it out.

http://www.extratv.com/2013/08/27/sneak-peek-the-amish-mafia-finds-some-crazy-mushrooms/


Maybe your friend saw this episode? These are fake as hell and the show should of disclaimed it. They even put baking soda on the shrooms to kill them. Powdered white shrooms, sound familiar?




Wow that clip was absolutely horrible... They find random mushrooms which they admit they have no idea what they are, one of the guys eats one mushroom and supposedly starts feeling the effects immediantly after..

That has to be one of the stupidest and most irresponsible or fake things ive ever seen on a TV show.


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    #18785563 - 09/01/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That has to be one of the stupidest and most irresponsible or fake things ive ever seen on a TV show.



Yeah no kidding, they looked like enoki cover in blue food coloring, noticed the camera blurred every time it "showed" them.
Discovery channel is a fucking joke now, I remember as a kid it being a respectable channel of mostly science and nature programing but the lowest common denominator seems to be all TV airs anymore. Sometimes I feel like there is a deliberate and intentional dumber-down of American citizens, critical thinking doesn't help the powers that be (I'm looking at you Israel) /rant.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18785579 - 09/01/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah no kidding, they looked like enoki cover in blue food coloring, noticed the camera blurred every time it "showed" them.
Discovery channel is a fucking joke now, I remember as a kid it being a respectable channel of mostly science and nature programing but the lowest common denominator seems to be all TV airs anymore. Sometimes I feel like there is a deliberate and intentional dumber-down of American citizens, critical thinking doesn't help the powers that be (I'm looking at you Israel) /rant.




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    #18785689 - 09/01/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This is what lead me to believe these may be penis envy. There are a few other caps that look like this one but this is the best example.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18785710 - 09/01/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Looks more like mold (to me) than bluing, are you taking pictures with your phone or a camera?
Does it have gills? kinda looks like a philosopher's stone truffle :shrug:
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What do they smell like?


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18785711 - 09/01/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The picture is blurry and doesnt really help much, but to me they do not look right for albino PE. If anything active they look more like giant mutated masses which happens sometimes but i think is unlikely.

Have you tripped before and how much experience do you have with magic mushrooms?

How sure are you that what you felt was not placebo effect?


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    #18785823 - 09/01/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry I used a crappy 2mp camera phone lol. I'm certain it wasn't a placebo effect because I lost all sense of reality for 4-5 hours and really good visuals.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18785829 - 09/01/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you're talking about the brown part that was just dirt or some grainy substance it certainly wasn't mold


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
    #18785834 - 09/01/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've done a half eighth of gold caps before and I have experience with lucy as well so I knew what to expect


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18785852 - 09/01/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Truffles kept in a cool wet environment like the fridge cant grow new, clean white mycelium.  We need some much better pictures to tell what these were, take the in a well lit area with macro mode so they are in focus and we might be able to tell you what they are.  Barring better photos, some non-psilocybe dosed with an n-bome sounds like a likely story to me.  I see nothing that looks anything like any commonly sold psilocybe. :shrug:


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #18785871 - 09/01/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think it's n-bome i've got experience with 2c's and this was much more intense and spiritual I find the 2c's to be more of a clear headed trip but this was confusing and somewhat disorienting much like my other shroom trip


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18785891 - 09/01/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It makes me sad but you are totally right maynard. Used to be respectable and now is garbage.

Those people on that show are the lowest common denominator of the Omish community.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18786683 - 09/01/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think it's n-bome i've got experience with 2c's and this was much more intense and spiritual I find the 2c's to be more of a clear headed trip but this was confusing and somewhat disorienting much like my other shroom trip




You aren't by any chance in New Zealand?  P. weraroa would make all of this this suddenly make a lot more sense.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #18786746 - 09/01/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nope i'm in the US. California to be more specific.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18786750 - 09/01/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's kinda strange that we still haven't figured this out lol! I'm really curious now


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18786772 - 09/01/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

With one good picture you'd have your answer within 30 seconds.


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18786778 - 09/01/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll take a picture of my last two eighths so you can see hopefully we can figure it out this time! It won't be blurry either


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Re: Buying 'White cap' shrooms? [Re: MDMAce]
    #18786781 - 09/01/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

bout friggin time!


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