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Cindi
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Pan. Cinctulus ID Please
#18781568 - 08/31/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My third day for finding these in the yard but this time was a few dozen. Can someone please verify that these are indeed pan. Cinctulus. The second pic is the spore print of the ones I found yesterday. Two looks to be black and the 2 larger ones look to be brown spore print. Thanks
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus ID Please [Re: Cindi]
#18781584 - 08/31/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Panaeolina foenisecii
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Cindi
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Even those with the black spore print?
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I see both.
the two prints on the left are black and the two on the right are brown.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus ID Please [Re: Ganzig]
#18781603 - 08/31/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok so is there anyway to tell them apart other than the spore print color?
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Ganzig
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus ID Please [Re: Cindi]
#18781612 - 08/31/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spore color is a great way to tell them apart.Sometimes cintulus will bruise blue at the base. They often have reddish stems.
The gills of the foe are brownish.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus ID Please [Re: Cindi]
#18781729 - 08/31/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cindi said: Ok so is there anyway to tell them apart other than the spore print color?
Check the spore texture. Panaeolus foenisecii has roughened spores while Panaeolus cinctulus has smooth spores.
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Cindi
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Thanks Alan, dont have a microscope but maybe I should
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus ID Please [Re: Cindi]
#18781963 - 08/31/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cindi said: Thanks Alan, dont have a microscope but maybe I should 
Or maybe you can show up at your local university and use theirs.
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Spore print is brown, stems appear fragile and lack the signature twist.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus ID Please [Re: divo]
#18782261 - 08/31/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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divo said: Spore print is brown, stems appear fragile and lack the signature twist.
Ok, in that case Panaeolus foenisecii.
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Cindi
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Only two of the spore prints are brown the two on the left are black or look black to me anyways. Waiting on prints of todays find.
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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divo said: Spore print is brown, stems appear fragile and lack the signature twist.
Ok, in that case Panaeolus foenisecii.
I apologize, top right pic prints on the left to appear to be black. However, your group shot consists mostly of foes.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus ID Please [Re: divo]
#18782287 - 08/31/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am printing them all so we shall see, but Im guessing that most are foes. Thank you for the ID's greatly appreciated
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