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clo3
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Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ?
#18780513 - 08/31/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've got a dark green spot that just started (day 16) at the bottom of one of my pf tek jars. The whole jar is at about 90% colonization.
The interesting thing is I saw the same type of spot in the middle of an UN-inoculated jar after 6 days. It grew bigger a day later and I chucked the jar. (I ended up with some un-inoculated jars bc I ran out of solution)
Here are two pics from today. The first one is a healthy uncolonized area on one side. The second one is the uncolonized area with the dark green on the other side. What's confusing me is that I thought that the green either grew at an inoculation spot or at the top of the jar, not at an uncolonized part near the bottom.
Edited by clo3 (08/31/13 08:29 AM)
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: clo3]
#18780579 - 08/31/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's difficult to say what that 2nd picture is due to the glare on the glass. The general rule of thumb is that if it's not white, it's an issue.
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: Jimmyhunter1000]
#18780975 - 08/31/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you have a green spot in the jar (can't tell from pics), sterilize it again & dump it in the garden. Mushroom mycelium will not "take over" nor "eat" contaminants despite what you've read. The mold mycelium will always be there waiting for a bit of O2 to spore & destroy your future grows.
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 Although after spawning the mycelium certainly is taking over the substrate from some molds which is why you don't see them. When a mold colony becomes large enough to actually see it's usually because it's an aggressive mold and the mycelium has already lost.
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Thanks Transcending life and others.. If you enlarge the picture, the color you see is the real color - it's not being distorted by the jar -ie very beige on the healthy part, very darkish-greenish on the unhealthy part. Guess I just didn't want it to be a spot as it's my most developed jar. Fortunately I've got 5 more in various stages, including two of the recommended wide-mouth kind. Back to waiting.. BTW, If I wanted to try to fruit outdoors would I just keep the jar sealed, bring it outside then knock the cake out onto the ground ? Or could try leaving the cake in the jar w/the lid off? Anyone had any good experiences w/this. Guess I could also cut off the whole bottom half of the cake (w/the green spot) and leave the rest out in the garden.
Edit: all of the options I'm talking about would be outdoors. I do not want to contaminate my grow area.
Edited by clo3 (09/01/13 06:27 AM)
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: clo3]
#18784951 - 09/01/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd slide the cake outta the jar then bury it a bit with some soil.
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clo3
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Cool thanks!!!
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: clo3]
#18788617 - 09/02/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update: check out these new pictures. Clicking on them blows them up.
Two days later, jar is now 100% colonized. So that whole area wasn't stalled, but green/black area still strong and looks like a couple little black dots up to the right. Spots don't look fuzzy at all and there was definitely never any white growing out of the black. Kizzle, maybe my mycelia still have a fighting chance ? Any chance this was a "harmless" bacteria ? You guys like my wishful thinking ?
My other jars are sucking ass so far - possibly my room is too hot ~80 during the day or too dry (top floor so it gets baked by the sun). Very slow.
I'm trying to let this one consolidate the substrate for a few days -> week before dumping outside unless the spot starts getting bigger.
Edited by clo3 (09/02/13 08:58 AM)
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: clo3]
#18790653 - 09/02/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You could always try burying it outside somewhere to find out. I wouldn't open or try to fruit it indoors.
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: Kizzle]
#18812970 - 09/07/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Opened up the jar outdoors and let it sit in water outdoors for 24 hours, then I put some verm on the top and buried it yesterday. This morning realized the ground probably wasn't too wet so I soaked it pretty well with water. Just the white top is visible with dirt around it. Thinking maybe I should cover it up with some peat moss/verm or something like that. I think the jar was fully colonized 6 days ago at this point. Just started getting cool at night though was 50 degrees the first night, shouldn't be less than 60 tonight, then it gets up to high 70's in the daytime. I think the patch gets sun but not for long. Main problem will probably be not enough moisture I'm guessing.
Edited by clo3 (09/07/13 08:50 PM)
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: clo3]
#18813349 - 09/07/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Main problem will probably be not enough moisture I'm guessing.
You can try punching some holes in a pot or tub and place it upside down on top of the outdoor bed. If you keep it moist, such semi enclosed environment can provide the extra RH you need.
Edit: The idea is actually something like an inverted terrarium.
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: MAIA]
#18816548 - 09/08/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool idea. I don't think I can pull it off because it's buried in a common yard and I'm trying to keep a low profile. Landlord is probably wondering why I keep going to that spot. Could maybe use a really small tupperware container.
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: clo3]
#18821387 - 09/09/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Man, you should've tried to cut the mold spot from the cake before burying. I just had my first brush with trich the other day; I buried the substrate outside and cased it with fresh grass clippings. I did this very early on when the contam was no bigger than a quarter in size. Few days later, I lifted the grass casing to check on it, BOOM, solid green fuzz everywhere. Frickin' dominated my sub/spawn. Murdered it.
The mold I got was a bit lighter green than yours and appeared from bulky white spheres of mycelium that looked a lot like cube myc.
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Re: Trich or something in un-inoculated jar ? [Re: Dreaming Nomad]
#18824943 - 09/10/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow that sucks good thing it was outdoors - yeah I'm still not sure what I had because it was never associated with any white spores (unless they were inside the cake only). One thing is for sure, it was not what I wanted to grow.
So my next jar will be ready on Friday - I've been reading a ton about monotubs and bulk but seeing as I've got my SGFC all drilled and ready to go, and a big bag of perlite, I'm going to try that first.
My cake wasn't doing much outdoors, it's been cool and dry out. I did crumble off the bad spot and a good chunk all around it before I buried it. But it's just in such a crappy place because I'm trying to be low profile.
So... I dug it up, dunked it again (outside), rolled, got a gallon freezer bag, put like 3" of perlite in the bottom, poked some holes in it and stuck the cake in there. Been misting and fanning it in my way back hallway, far from my potential grow space on the second floor. Couldn't find anyone who the same thing with a cake, but what the hell. The bag smells really nice and shroomy, would be so very nice to get a few pins... I may be making a huge noob mistake by messing with it at all, but it smells okay. Isn't that what noobs are for?
Edited by clo3 (09/10/13 07:42 PM)
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