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Faaip_De_Oiad
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First trip idea?
#1877972 - 09/03/03 03:08 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok I've been talking to someone about my first trip and he gave me this advice and told me that he wished someone had told him this on his first time...
ok here's the plan... "to at least eat 5 grams dry and as soon as they are down go into a quiet/silent place with absolutely no light and lay flat on your back and breathe"
now of course I'm a little unsure of this, it seems that it might be a little too much for me and my first time, but this guy seems very confident that this is the right thing to do.
but me, i'm still on the fence about this one, I just thought that I'd get the opinion of more than one person. thanks
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Tremor1127
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fuck that... try to keep a few movies going, or take a walk while you are peaking... that is always fun... you need lights though man, you will go crazy in the dark...
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arex7tt
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Tremor1127]
#1878006 - 09/03/03 03:22 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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damn 5 grams your first time, that would be too much for me, im starting with 3
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Tremor1127]
#1878026 - 09/03/03 03:28 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's definitely a good idea... but only for experienced trippers. Definitely NOT for a first timer. I advice to take not more than 2,5g. If you have good quality mushrooms, 2,5g is enough for a first timer.
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Annom]
#1878037 - 09/03/03 03:31 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm sharing the same concerns, but like I said he's pretty confident in the idea, but I'm just not sure if I could handle it, since I'd be presented with some stuff that I might not be able to handle.
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Annom
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Do you want "total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects, or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measureable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satori enlightenment (and other such labels)." your first time without even knowing what a mushroom trip is like? Better safe than sorry... you can always take 5g the next time.
Edited by Annom (09/03/03 04:12 PM)
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Tremor1127
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Annom]
#1878201 - 09/03/03 04:24 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah man... take 2-3... 3 is still a little lot, but if you think you can handle whatever it might deliver, take 3, i wouldnt take 5 for my first time...
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jamboUK
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Annom]
#1878224 - 09/03/03 04:32 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ooh, I want that my first time. I just don't have the guts. But it sounds awesome. A good analogy seems to be swimming for the first time, but one where you can't change your depth until your next trip to the pool. You can go in the shallow end and find it a bit tame but safe, or you can jump in the deep end and hope you manage to swim, and have an amazing time if you do, or a dreadful time if you don't. And since your first time of anything is always special, it might be worth the risk. Or it might not.
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huxmush
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I'd say do what feels natural to you. Given your post I'd say your not, and recommend around the 2gram level. Keep the other 3 grams for your next trip, so you can appreciate the difference. (Plus you get more trip 'hours', albeit at lower dosages).
Set, setting and how you feel have a large influence on the trip, so if you're more fearful than you are apprehensive then 5 grams could be a quite scary.
Personally, So far I've gone 1.5 -> 2 -> 3 grams, and don't regret anything at all (in fact the complete opposite).
Just my take, you can always increase your dosages later. Whatever amount you take, have an enjoyable time!
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Saribo
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: huxmush]
#1878828 - 09/03/03 07:28 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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2.0- 2.5g the first time would be my suggestion. I had a first time tripper on my hands this last weekend. Took him hiking for the come-up, then a drive through a canyon. I had to split after that, but I heard he had a great rest of a trip over at a friend's house. Take a drive (w/ someone else driving obviously), a hike, or at least get out doors. There's plenty of time for sitting around watching movies or talking later.
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Saribo]
#1879027 - 09/03/03 08:20 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had planned for my first trip to be on 3 g's but this guy sounds VERY confident, he's been tripping for more than 15 years and he ASURES me that I won't have a bad trip under his guidance, but then again, I dont know how someone could give a no-bad-trip promise, esp to someone on 5 grams!!!!
but I just thought I'd get some input from you guys first, and remember we would be doing this in a pitch black closet, if that helps.
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chasingstardna
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I, like most people above me, completely disagree with taking 5 your first time. 1g is a waste (that is what I did my first time), 2g is okay and 3 will give you a good trip. I'd save that 5 for when you're a little more experienced with them - like your second trip.
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jamboUK
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Important question: has the guy tried this 5g's-lying-down-in-the-dark approach on any other beginners? And if so, how did it go?
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Kenny Bus
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: jamboUK]
#1880497 - 09/04/03 07:10 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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if u r gunna humor him do it gradually, eat the first 2 grams and wait an hour or 2, till u r peaking. and if u think u can handle more eat anouther gram or 2, give it 45 min repeat if disired. im experianced and i havnt gone for the 5 gram yet, i was gunna do the 4 2day, but i'm going to the zoo instead so i want to atleast beable to function
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Kenny Bus]
#1880891 - 09/04/03 11:03 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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he says that he's done it to 2 (maybe one of them wasn't a first timer though) and the other person (who was also kinda skeptic) came out of it a new person and now will NOT stop talking about mushrooms.
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FlowGnome
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And the person he neglected to mention had a psychotic break and ate his own hands. :-)
Seriously though, I wouldn't really recommend doing this for a first trip. At least have some music on or something, it would be hard enough laying in silence in the dark for 5 hours when you were sober, let alone while tripping your balls off for the first time.
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jamboUK
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: FlowGnome]
#1881297 - 09/04/03 01:37 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, it sounds interesting, so if you were confident it would work, I'd say go for it. However, you're clearly not, or else you wouldn't be debating it here, so if I were you, I'd just take the tried-and-tested approach of starting off on a lower dose with other people.
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: jamboUK]
#1881365 - 09/04/03 01:55 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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well, I think that I might be "ready" for it if it werent for the fact that EVERYONE says not to take such a large dose the first time.
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Annom
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Any experience with psychedelics?
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AmericaNightmare
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Annom]
#1882023 - 09/04/03 05:27 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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my first trip was 3.5, i was with 3 of my closest friends (2 were experienced and sober at teh time, one was experienceing for the first time as well)...I recommend be with people you are comfortable around, while waiting for the mush to hit, watch a funny movie or read, just to busy your mind while your waiting...you'll have a nice time
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MOTH
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I remember on my first trip when my boyfriend and I were waiting for our mushrooms to hit we were playing a card game.
Those cards just started looking so funny!!
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: MOTH]
#1882748 - 09/04/03 08:11 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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5 dried grams in silent darkness for your first trip?? I've tripped many times and I still don't feel remotely ready for that. That is Terence McKenna's "heroic dose" that will lift the veils, etc. etc. It will be more intense than you can imagine. I don't recommend that, it could turn you off of psychedelics forever. You could develop Post traumatic stress disorder or some such thing. I myself get the willies sometimes thinking about my the bad parts of my strange trip off 3.5 grams.
Then again, it has the potential to be the best experience of your life.
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Noviseer]
#1882927 - 09/04/03 08:54 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Noviseer said: Then again, it has the potential to be the best experience of your life.
this is why he wants me to try.
oh and no, i have no previous experience with psychedelics.
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oh god, my whole life was one long pyschedelic experiece. if you have never tripped before i urge you to. its very fun stufff. icant even type right now. all the letters are like pulling apart,weeeeeeeeee.
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yeah I wouldn't recommend that for a first-timer heh its like you said that may turn out to be "a bit too much" 
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Strumpling]
#1884778 - 09/05/03 10:23 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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It may be a bit much, but if you totally trust this guy to guide you and he has a ton of expierience, it would probably turn out pretty good imho 
If only I was lucky enough to have a good guide my first time
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Digs]
#1885372 - 09/05/03 01:11 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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heh, well you see, his theory is that the reason people "flip out" is that they have too much outside stimuli, and that they see things that they can't handle, but I still think that I'll heed the advice given here and only do about 3 gs, but I still think that I'll at least give the sensory depravation a shot, thanks for all the help guys!
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Sev
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Quote:
Faaip_De_Oiad said: I had planned for my first trip to be on 3 g's but this guy sounds VERY confident, he's been tripping for more than 15 years and he ASURES me that I won't have a bad trip under his guidance, but then again, I dont know how someone could give a no-bad-trip promise, esp to someone on 5 grams!!!!
but I just thought I'd get some input from you guys first, and remember we would be doing this in a pitch black closet, if that helps.
Do 2-3g your first time, preferably with someone you trust and enjoy the company of. This way, you can be assured that the stuff works and you aren't going to die. This really helps for when you take a large dose alone and the drug starts warring with your ego.
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Re: First trip idea? [Re: Sev]
#1902345 - 09/10/03 01:56 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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My first trip involved 8 dried grams of serrious mushrooms, a park, two friends, one tripping as well, and then the setting sun. Bad idea, do 2 gs your first time.
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Leonopoly
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I would also suggest taking two to three. Eat that and see how you feel. You can always take more. For your first trip I would not suggest being alone or in a dark room. That is a different kind of trip that you won't be prepared for. Have fun with it your first time. Do the experimenting later. Be with a few close friends, in a lighted room, watching tv. You can trip off that and each other and everything around you. Enjoy the ride. Leo
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domite
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Quote:
Faaip_De_Oiad said: heh, well you see, his theory is that the reason people "flip out" is that they have too much outside stimuli...
my theory is that people freak out becuase they "realize" something (i.e. something that is total bullshit, but scares the fuck out of you) This is very possible in a sencario where your mind and some mushrooms are left alone together in a dark room. I cant stress enough how Amazing (it needs to be capitalized) my first expereince on shrooms was, and it wasnt even an eigth! Your friend is actually right about the too much outside stimuli thing, but some outside stimuli, like music,video games, and the presence of loved ones is GREAT to trip to. I say three grams is a good starting dose (some will say that even THIS is to strong) and it wont decreace the power of your alone in the dark experience at all, but it will make it much less likley that you will be miserable. When faced with a tough disision like this, it helps me to do a pros/cons chart.
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