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Illuminate
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I cant trip?
#18779599 - 08/30/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So about a month ago was my first time trying mushrooms.
I got 7g and munched what looked like half. Smoked a joint and waited for the comeup. I got this strange warm feeling around my body, that persisted through the trip. Everything had a brighter tone, but other then that no visuals. About 2 hours after eating the first half i ate the second. I started to noticing textures more, sorta like the quality of my vision increased. I was seeing very faint patterns in the walls, in the same color as the wall and i only saw them if i looked closely.
Fast forward a month and i decided to try it again, this time i had 10g penis envys. I ground them up and put them in capsules, 24 capsules in total, about .4 in each.
I swallowed 10 capsules (about 4g) and smoked another Joint. After ~1hr I got the same warm feelings and after ~2.5 hours everything looked like a brighter tone.About 3 hours in i decided it felt too weak and wanted a "strong" trip, so i swallowed some of the caps and ate the rest of them (i like the taste of shrooms ). At this point i was expecting to go to a different realm, haven eaten 10 grams in the last ~4 hours. All that really happened apart from a mindfuck was the brightness was more intense and I saw pretty faint patterns on the corners of my vision.
I got these shrooms from different sources. I was kinda expecting alot more from 10g's , maybe something is blocking me from really experiencing shrooms? The only other psychedelic i tryed was 1 tab of acid ~100ug, although it was weak, it didn't feel much weaker then the 10g shrooms. Im just trying to experience intense visuals, maybe i should try something else, DMT?
Some relevant info:
weight 105 lbs Im on SSRI's I sorta had to hide the fact that i was tripping
-Edit- Both batches were DRY, sorry i should of mentioned this earlier
Edited by Illuminate (08/31/13 08:22 PM)
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I've read that SSRIs will kill any trip. I've also heard that you have to discontinue there use for several months before you will be able to trip at all. It is most certainly without a doubt the SSRIs that are not allowing you to trip.
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adding more mushrooms during the same trip does not have the additive qualities you were hoping for. For the most part, once you eat the mushrooms the only thing you can do is extend the level of trip you are having by eating more, not double or triple things.
edit - didn't see the part where you said you were on SSRI's. That was my guess when I first read the post, but that is the reason you aren't tripping.
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Edited by dodgem (08/30/13 11:11 PM)
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Re: I cant trip? [Re: dodgem]
#18779678 - 08/30/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn, i had a feeling it was these pills. Im on paxil 20mg/day, i dont even why i take it since i dont notice any positive differences.
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Re: I cant trip? [Re: dodgem]
#18779696 - 08/30/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
GreyMorph said: I've read that SSRIs will kill any trip. I've also heard that you have to discontinue there use for several months before you will be able to trip at all. It is most certainly without a doubt the SSRIs that are not allowing you to trip.
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dodgem said: adding more mushrooms during the same trip does not have the additive qualities you were hoping for. For the most part, once you eat the mushrooms the only thing you can do is extend the level of trip you are having by eating more, not double or triple things.
edit - didn't see the part where you said you were on SSRI's. That was my guess when I first read the post, but that is the reason you aren't tripping.
Well I was going to ask for sources. Then I Googled SSRI. This theory seems pretty solid without reading more than its definition.
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Yeah, it's the pills. I've read other threads similar to these. Like I said, lay off the pills for a few months and try again. Don't take a huge dose either, might just trip balls...haha.
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Fuck SSRI drugs, I had friend develop psychosis from it, I've heard countless people tel stories of suicides linked to such drugs. Antidepressants in general fuck with a part of a brain we know jack shit about. Stick to naturals
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SSRI can be very helpful along with some therapy
You will need to get off them before you can trip.... Be patient... Mushrooms will always be here
Note: need to be off them for a while, week or more, and don't take 7-10 gm of dry mushrooms for your first time....
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I've also heard very negative feedback from people who used SSRIs.
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I think you should wait until you feel the mushrooms taking effect before you smoke any weed. It could just block out the feeling of the shrooms because you don't know if their taking effect.
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Edited by WhiteSide (08/31/13 05:21 PM)
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Quote:
WhiteSide said: I think you should wait until you feel the mushrooms taking effect before you smoke any weed. It could just block out the feeling of the shrooms because you don't know if their taking effect.
I hear what you're saying...I actually like to wait to smoke until I've already come up...
...but no, cannabis will never "block out" the feeling of the mushrooms, especially 7g to 10g worth.
Illuminate ....As it's already been mentioned, it's the SSRI that's causing this, guarantee it. How long have you been taking it, and what for? When/if the time comes that you choose to stop taking the SSRI, I'd start with a way way smaller amount of mushrooms than what you've taken prior....Like 2g or so, give or take half a gram. 10g of Penis envy, or any cubensis for that matter, is plenty for me (and most people) to have three relatively intense trips.
I'd wait a while, a couple weeks at least, longer would likely be better, before tripping if/when you stop taking the SSRI.
I was taking an ssri years ago, the shit didn't do a damn thing other than make me feel numb and dull...
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Re: I cant trip? [Re: openmind]
#18782457 - 08/31/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am getting off them but I have to do it gradually according to my doctor. Im takin 30mg's/day paxil for PTSD, gonna take 15 for abit then stop. i really dont notice any differences except feeling numb like you said. I have tried Prozac, seroquel and some other shit and it all made me feel horrible. I really dont know why i put faith in these medications after hearing so many horrible things about them.
I knew something wasn't right, and was blocking me from feeling the true power of psychedelics, even tho I never experienced them before. Someone my size taking a Q even if all at once from what I read would produce alot more what i experienced, and 10G's of PE's should of certainly been alot stronger than it was. Noone around me had any idea I was "tripping" either time, and I was able to perform normal tasks without suspicion.
After doing some research i think ill wait a few months after getting off pills before trying another psychedelic, oh and i probably wont smoke weed on the comeup, i was debating this at first so I can atleast distinguish the shrooms. Oh and if these SSRI's are what really killed my trip I dont think id ever be doing 10g's at once again , lol
Thank you all for the info.
Edited by Illuminate (08/31/13 06:57 PM)
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IME smoking on shrooms is fine and I always take a rip after eating the mushies, doesn't really seem to effect the trip.
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fuck your doctor hes satan in a suit with a nice car paid for by your demon insurance "agents"..
just drop the pills in the toilet they cause brain damage and cancer. trust me..
"if youve taken (insert drug name here) in 2005, you may be eligible for compensation. (insert drug here) has been linked to (insert complication here) and the FDA knew it all along, you were a labrat, thanks for playing!" ... I KNOW you seen commercials like that
WAKE UP!
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every perscription written is claimed as a tax at the end of the year..
satan loves money
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Quote:
Illuminate said: I am getting off them but I have to do it gradually according to my doctor. Im takin 30mg's/day paxil for PTSD, gonna take 15 for abit then stop. i really dont notice any differences except feeling numb like you said. I have tried Prozac, seroquel and some other shit and it all made me feel horrible. I really dont know why i put faith in these medications after hearing so many horrible things about them.
I knew something wasn't right, and was blocking me from feeling the true power of psychedelics, even tho I never experienced them before. Someone my size taking a Q even if all at once from what I read would produce alot more what i experienced, and 10G's of PE's should of certainly been alot stronger than it was. Noone around me had any idea I was "tripping" either time, and I was able to perform normal tasks without suspicion.
After doing some research i think ill wait a few months after getting off pills before trying another psychedelic, oh and i probably wont smoke weed on the comeup, i was debating this at first so I can atleast distinguish the shrooms. Oh and if these SSRI's are what really killed my trip I dont think id ever be doing 10g's at once again , lol
Thank you all for the info.
A gradual tapering down off of them would be smart, definitely if you've been taking them for a while.
But yea...sounds like ya got a plan man. If you're still around here months down the road when you have your first actual immersive trip, post about it, I'd like to hear how things go for ya.
Once you try going at it with no SSRI, you'll realize how large of a dose you actually took. Even 1.5g has thrown me out there plenty that people would notice me acting differently...again, start small.
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Re: I cant trip? [Re: openmind]
#18782715 - 08/31/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Like said above, dose small. 10 Gs is comparative to space travel.
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Re: I cant trip? [Re: openmind]
#18782804 - 08/31/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree fuck SSRIs, though i was kinda forced to take them even tho sometimes i would just throw it out. I never really cared to much because it was all free in canada and just thought it might help me so gave it a go, and got in the habit of taking them.
It amazes me that SSRIs completely weakened so much for me those that dose, I can get high of a .1 of weed. I hope that these pills didn't complete fuck my brain. I will for sure come and post a trip report when they are out of my system. Will probably start again with 2-3.5g lol .
Edited by Illuminate (08/31/13 08:13 PM)
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Good call. Oh and cannabis is typically synergistic with psychedelics.
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I don't know if I'd give up on psych meds if I were you, maybe just change which ones you take. Do yourself a favor and be honest with your doctor about using psychedelics and tell him you want to be on a drug that won't fuck up your trip. Try Abilify, for example. The doctor won't do anything except tell you it's dangerous, etc. They'll still treat you. If not, find one that will.
If you are taking psych meds you really ought to be in talk therapy as well as it's been proven to work better both alone and in conjunction with meds.
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Re: I cant trip?h [Re: refried]
#18783196 - 08/31/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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refried it sounds like the pills refried your brain, stop using the keyboard..
http://www.rotlaw.com/abilify/
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Even tylenol can adversely affect certain people. I know something about this, just offering my 2 cents.
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Re: I cant trip?h [Re: refried]
#18783870 - 09/01/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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no shit..i dont take tylenol nor should you.
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Illuminate
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Ive just stopped taking it. Been 2 days and so far no withdrawal symptoms. Apparently paroxetine has the worst withdrawals of all SSRIs x_x.
Im wondering how long i should wait? I read 5 halflifes and it has a half like of 24 hrs so ~1week, and read elsewhere that it takes longer for the receptors in the brain to return to normal I don't wanna waste more shrooms
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wait 2 weeks.. congrats for hopping off the convayeour belt... stick with it!
for real...
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Deathcore said: wait 2 weeks.. congrats for hopping off the convayeour belt... stick with it!
for real...
Yes, op...I would definitely take the advice of a man that butchers the word "conveyor" so badly that most on here wouldn't know what he meant if it weren't followed by "belt" Please take your doctors advice and taper slowly if you are going to follow through with ridding your system of this chem. I believe that you could have a seizure if you stop suddenly after extended use of moderately high dosages. Also, you need to come up with a alternate method of dealing with the PTSD than numbing the thoughts out. Perhaps meditation or exercise? Keep your mind active.
Also, like others here said....after a few weeks or even months without SSRI's in your system ....take a regular dose ...maybe 3.5 G instead of the 7-10 like you took before. I sincerely hope you can gain fully what these enthogens have to offer!
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like i said.. stay off the convayeour belt..
colors...colours...
heros..heroes...
I cnduo't bvleiee taht I culod aulaclty uesdtannrd waht I was rdnaieg. Unisg the icndeblire pweor of the hmuan mnid, aocdcrnig to rseecrah at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mttaer in waht oderr the lterets in a wrod are, the olny irpoamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rhgit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whoutit a pboerlm. Tihs is bucseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey ltteer by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Aaznmig, huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghhuot slelinpg was ipmorantt! See if yuor fdreins can raed tihs too..
look, those pills can cause seizures..you shoulda never took em to begin with... fuck doctors that wont literally teat what thwy offer ro their patients..
go natural..stay natural.
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I'm not digging all the hate on SSRI's. there is nothing wrong with them. I personally know a Ton of people who have greatly benefited from their use.
I mean they suck if you're trying to trip, but not everyone needs drugs guys. Now I don't like SSRI's because I don't like using something everyday, and am Not a fan of relying on drugs to make me content. But that me, not them.
Don't knock something that saves a lot of people's lives ESPECiALLY if you've never used them.
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Re: I cant trip?h [Re: Legend]
#18800241 - 09/04/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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not trying to hate legend but the risks outweigh the benefits..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor
read all the adverse effects.. if you were raised right or motivated u wouldnt cling to those one size fits all lab rat cancer causing pills.. the doctors and mad scientists got u fooled.. those pills are evil and full of mercury.. they cause problems not help people "live"..ite placebo..
They can promote suicide and other risks..
well i guess that is a benefit, u will no longer have a personality disorder..
a healthy diet and exercise goes a LONG way... dont rely on dirty bandaids to seal a wound..
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Yes, yes, one must never forget the risks!!!!
And what is this crazy ass talk about not everyone needing drugs?
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By the third day off them i felt a little uneasy, 4th day i was nauseated/dizzy and had these "brain zaps", and threw up multiple times despite barely eating anything. im back on them but slowly tapering off.. I can't go to work in that state. -.-
My psychiatrist doesn't help IMO. All she does is ask about some event that happened and throw prescriptions at me. Never once told her i was depressed / suicidal / watever, just that i've been having repeating nightmares of some event.
Edited by Illuminate (09/05/13 02:11 PM)
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Illuminate said: By the third day off them i felt a little uneasy, 4th day i was nauseated/dizzy and had these "brain zaps", and threw up multiple times despite barely eating anything. im back on them but slowly tapering off.. I can't go to work in that state. -.-
PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR DOC! This shit is nothing to mess with...Those "brain zaps" are like mini seizures. Please don't take the advice of some on here...they mean well, but, more than likely they cheated their way through high school....if they are even out of school yet.
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Honestly i never even call her. I dont keep in touch with her anymore cuz i find the meetings so pointless, i just grab my prescription and leave. but I know its obvs better to tapper them. I really thought i could handle dem withdrawals but i guess not. I wasn't prepared to constantly feel like shit for weeks in if not months.
I taking 15 mg now and feeling fine, and going to slowly taper it over a atleast a couple months
Fuck these meds, if anyone is planning on taking them please dont
Edited by Illuminate (09/05/13 02:22 PM)
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AGAIN:
EVERY PRESCRIPTION WRITTEN IS A TAX WRITE OFF AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU, YOUR WELL BEING, ETC.
THOSE PILLS SUCK.. THOSE BODY EFFECTS WILL GO AWAY AFTER 2 WEEKS JUST EXERCISE, DRINK WATER, 2 GALLONS A DAY, PRACTICE DEEP BREATHING TO CALM YOUR NERVES..
CHANGE DOESNT HAPPEN OVER NIGHT!
DONT LISTEN TO QUACK JOBS JUST STAY OFF THE PILLS..
ITS YOUR DECISION ..
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I realize that, I would rather taper off them slowly tho then stop right away. I dont even need another prescription, i have enough to last me the taper. 2 Weeks of that isn't worth it compared to another month on this shit
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Yes, allthough it's not really a reputable source, i have read theWikipedia article. have to say every drug has it's nasty adverse reactions, and no drug is for everyone but some Drugs deem to have medicinal value to some people, so recreational use aside, there are many people who are well tollerant to SSRI's that find them suitable for their therapeutic needs. Id like to mention i by no means recommend using drugs for mentalhealth issues, nor do I recommend them for recreational use.
SSRIs are drugs just like the rest of them.
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Edited by Legend (09/05/13 08:17 PM)
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Re: I cant trip?h [Re: Legend]
#18805959 - 09/06/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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its dumb they are legal yet filled with more junk than acid, naturally occuring weed and shrooms..which arent legal yet more beneficial..makes u wonder
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makes me wonder how old you are
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It should take longer than a couple weeks. No one really knows. You have to wait for the brain's receptors to return back to normal too, not just wait for the drug to leave your system. You're lucky for having the choice of taking them or not. Good luck, hope it all turned out well for you.
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