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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: GreySatyr]
#18779188 - 08/30/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: Not really, I understand what you're saying. The whole impurity=negative thing is what I fa to comprehend. There really hasn't been a scientific study that I'm aware of to show the effects and since psychedelics are already highly subjective then I don't they could point out the negative or positive results of certain impurities. It's just up for debate between chemists I believe. Sativa and indica strains, that I get but there is no LSD varieties that I'm aware. I mean needlepoint and silver fluff or whatever, yeah but what's the scientific name of these "impurities", I've read of the psychoactive impurities of mushrooms and I'm not concerned since they're naturally grown, who cares? They'll always be there unless I extract and I don't plan on doin it unless I'm a chemist. Ill never know the purity of my LsD either unless I luck out and meet a chemist...highly unlikely.
you dont have to be a chemist to extract mushrooms. just a simple alcohol tincture
as far as the impurities of LSD, im not sure that anyone knows what they are, i sure dont. but as far as the subjective, try some amber, and then try some white fluff and tell me which one you like better. amber definitely isnt as enjoyable to me as fluff. although there really was only two times that i had the fortune of knowing for sure what kind of crystal was on my tabs
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GreySatyr
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: sailing]
#18779198 - 08/30/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is it really that simple? I've never bothered.
I also doubt ill ever know the purity of my LSD so I don't bother wondering about its impurities. If I'm lucky to find the cheap stuff well then I am still lucky. I live in the east coast smokies/boonies.
-------------------- ...also, go to hell, huh?
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: GreySatyr]
#18779294 - 08/30/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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the cheap stuff is the good stuff.
EDIT: atleast when it comes to street prices. if you find someone selling 5$ hits, jump on it. be wary of the one selling the 15-20$ hits, those most likely are the ones that arent even lsd.
-------------------- Love is the deep spiritual connection between the self and all things. We are all a part of the same universe. Crazy cat peekin through a lace bandanna,like a one eyed cheshire, like a diamond eyed jack.
Edited by sailing (08/30/13 09:14 PM)
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GreySatyr
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: sailing]
#18779327 - 08/30/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never bought any for more than 10$ a hit, I've also never been burned.
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: GreySatyr]
#18779335 - 08/30/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: I've never bought any for more than 10$ a hit, I've also never been burned.
awesome, glad to hear it. Ive been burned quite a few times, and had to start narrowing down my sources to only people i trust.
-------------------- Love is the deep spiritual connection between the self and all things. We are all a part of the same universe. Crazy cat peekin through a lace bandanna,like a one eyed cheshire, like a diamond eyed jack.
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GreySatyr
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: sailing]
#18779362 - 08/30/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This dude I know got burnt once. 80$ for sour patch kids, haha! He's always getting burned on drugs though. Guess it's karma for stealing from his parents all the time. I've only bought from two sources though. They were both spur of the moment guys that came through for me and I was friends with them both for a while till I moved. Really cool people wish I could have stayed in touch.
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: GreySatyr]
#18779389 - 08/30/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i felt bad the one time, cause i always used to hook my buddy up with free hits, and one time when i was dry, i went over to chill and he had some shit that he picked up, and offered me one to return the favor. i could sense before i even put it in my mouth that it was an nbome, idk how, spidey senses i guess. so i didnt want to decline because he was trying to do something nice, and i didnt want to shit on that. so i figured id taste it to see if its tasteless... bitter, so i swallowed it so that it wouldnt work and just pretended to be spaced out most of the night lol.
-------------------- Love is the deep spiritual connection between the self and all things. We are all a part of the same universe. Crazy cat peekin through a lace bandanna,like a one eyed cheshire, like a diamond eyed jack.
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: sailing]
#18779409 - 08/30/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha, the bomb isn't orally active? Only sublingual?
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: GreySatyr]
#18779426 - 08/30/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I always stick my tabs in the pocket of my lip just cause its easier to talk and stuff with it there, nbomes are active there. ive heard nbomes are inactive orally, but i think thats refering to actually eating it, not leaving it in your mouth. I know for a fact, its not active if you swallow the tab. (except complexed tabs but thats a whole nother thing... sort of)
lsd is active if you swallow it though (just takes a little longer to kick in)
-------------------- Love is the deep spiritual connection between the self and all things. We are all a part of the same universe. Crazy cat peekin through a lace bandanna,like a one eyed cheshire, like a diamond eyed jack.
Edited by sailing (08/30/13 09:51 PM)
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: sailing]
#18779499 - 08/30/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I knew the last bit from experience. I always eat my tabs after I start feeling the effects. I just don't know much about the bomb, I haven't experienced mescaline yet and I've vowed to not try any RCs until I've tried all the classics.
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: GreySatyr]
#18779509 - 08/30/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: I knew the last bit from experience. I always eat my tabs after I start feeling the effects. I just don't know much about the bomb, I haven't experienced mescaline yet and I've vowed to not try any RCs until I've tried all the classics.
to me, RC's are nice for when you just cant get a hold of the classics.
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: sailing]
#18779566 - 08/30/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Exactly, not really about the chemical. It's the experience that matters. Psychedelics are so subjective that I don't really think that it matters which one you take. I do lie the varying intensities and durations. The long duration of mescaline, the wave like feel of LSD and the rocket ship come up of mushrooms. Makes for some interesting differences. I wonder what it's be like to take all three at the same time.
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My hypothesis on the various things that make acid "dirty";
Some of the unreacted Lysergic Acid salts that are poorly separated from product, Lysergic acid is not particularly visual, but still a mindfuck like lsd.
LSD to iso-LSD epimerization due to too high/low pH during workup and Lumi-LSD from exposure to light in the presence of water vapor are both "inactive" products but there is no evidence to say that it does not contribute to the trip in some way..
LSZ is a tad more stable than LSD I have heard, but I am not gunna waste a tab to test that theory out! :P
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: GreySatyr]
#18779606 - 08/30/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: Exactly, not really about the chemical. It's the experience that matters. Psychedelics are so subjective that I don't really think that it matters which one you take. I do lie the varying intensities and durations. The long duration of mescaline, the wave like feel of LSD and the rocket ship come up of mushrooms. Makes for some interesting differences. I wonder what it's be like to take all three at the same time.
every trip has a different feel for sure, but you make a good point, ive noticed that too, they all have the same overall message... except for nbome, i honestly cannot say ive ever gotten a message from nbome that related to anything the other chemicals were related to.
-------------------- Love is the deep spiritual connection between the self and all things. We are all a part of the same universe. Crazy cat peekin through a lace bandanna,like a one eyed cheshire, like a diamond eyed jack.
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Re: "Clean" Acid vs "Dirty" Acid [Re: sailing]
#18780763 - 08/31/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushrooms and lsd is always the same basic message each time :-) just listen carefully
be grateful, acceptance,appreciation
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