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Invisiblelessismore
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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: Alexestalex]
    #18782147 - 08/31/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Alexestalex said:
Observe your life for a split second and let's discuss what it is objectively. Your "life" is composed, more or less, of 5 dominant senses: vision, audio, smell, taste, and touch. Your brain attributes certain kinds of different emotions, sensations, and feelings to everything it experiences which make up your memories, beliefs, and desires. You age, die, and the slate of you is wiped completely clean while your sentience either gets completely nullified or you are simply reborn. The loop just goes on and on, and each life is like a single, long lucid dream only different from the last in terms of what you see/feel/hear/etc and the emotions you attribute to those sensations. Life is a giant recycling bin of pretty much legos (in the forms of atoms) that is constantly breaking and forming, creating and destroying, endlessly- nothing lasts but nothing is lost. The variety of these dreams is endless: some are made up of fear, some of hopelessness, some of joy, some of betrayal, some of dominance, and so forth. It's just a giant orgy of different temporary sensations and emotions and the way that your brain interprets the universe to form this dream is also infinite- you can experience new senses if you're born as an animal, for instance, that is completely alien to you in the human realm. Ever sat there wondering how a mosquito interprets the world?

I know this post comes off as being a little bit depressing but this world view fills me with nothing but bliss, unity, and joy. I observe people around me, especially successful individuals, who get so caught up in this dream and fuss over such simple matters that I just snigger in the corner. I'm fairly successful if you look at my life in the cookie cutter success meter but in the back of my mind I always know that this is simply a dream, that life is completely empty, and once this ends, whatever this existence is, "I" will be wiped clean forever. My reincarnated self will have absolutely no association to my current self, just as none of us remember a single detail about life before we were born, and the loop will just go on and on and on. All I want to know is why and how I'm caught up in this loop but that's a question for another day.

Have psychedelics given anyone else a perspective like this?




Maybe your idea of 'self' dies when you die
but your soul lives on in others, everyone around you

so you can change the world by changing yourself, be how you want others to be

I believe in reincarnation though, and notice the soul is equally great in every animal, just observe

If I look back I haven't changed who I am inside, only outside changes, appearances


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: DeeBee]
    #18782161 - 08/31/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good read. Saved it to my computer :smile:


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: Alexestalex]
    #18784319 - 09/01/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Alexestalex said:
All I want to know is why and how I'm caught up in this loop but that's a question for another day.

Have psychedelics given anyone else a perspective like this?





Psychedelics gave me the perspective that YOU ARE LIFE ITSELF. You are Life. Think about it: the body you observe in front of you is in the exact same mind/universe as your parents and likewise as your children. Then you can see you're just an object in your own mind. Your mind is infinite and expansive and its nature is pure Light, imagination, creativity. The entire thing is a simulation run by your Self, it's all you.


Your mind is not merely the confine within your skull, it is the entire universe itself. You are walking on an object called Earth, which is also a data entry in your Mind. Look at the universe from the perspective of the Designer, from the director's point of view, who is ultimately you.


In this place, nothing really actually goes anywhere. It appears and disappears and can be reappeared at will if needs be, because it was always ever just an object in the mind. Watch some videos and dive into the world of the cameraman and realise your sight and the camera's sight is one, it is a single Witness that sees through all eyes.


You never die, ever. What is death? You were around before biological life itself. You created the entire universe. There is a forgettance with incarnation but is there? Ultimately you are aware of this as that is Being itself. You might realise there is no gaining knowledge, only remembering your true Self, which is infinite and fully self-sufficient already. The body is a character in the story but you are the Writer of the story, the entire thing is your own writing. All writing is your writing, all creation is your creation.



When you consider this, it becomes plain and obvious as the Sun itself. That sleep/wake is a mirage, you always abide. The entire World goes on when you the physical body fall asleep, and you are still ever more Here because there is no where to go. Sleep is just switching a camera off for a little while, your true home is the wide awake world. At present this awake-ness is 13-15 billion years old. Immerse yourself in your ancient Self-ness, you are ancient.

It's amazing how this forum and indeed all life consists of the Self reminding the Self to be loving or aware of the Self. Endless forgettance, who knows why?


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


Edited by crkhd (09/01/13 07:24 AM)


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: crkhd]
    #18784386 - 09/01/13 08:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I like this post way more than I thought I would. Right on Op :rastamon:


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: crkhd]
    #18788432 - 09/02/13 06:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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crkhd said:
You never die, ever. What is death? You were around before biological life itself. You created the entire universe. There is a forgettance with incarnation but is there? Ultimately you are aware of this as that is Being itself. You might realise there is no gaining knowledge, only remembering your true Self, which is infinite and fully self-sufficient already. The body is a character in the story but you are the Writer of the story, the entire thing is your own writing. All writing is your writing, all creation is your creation.

It's amazing how this forum and indeed all life consists of the Self reminding the Self to be loving or aware of the Self. Endless forgettance, who knows why?




Pretty much had the same experience yesterday.
Took 45 or 50g fresh mushies in darkness (first time usage).

Used to watch alot of Mckenna videos and was prepared to have a similar experience.(Meeting strange all knowing entities who would answer my questions...)

But it came completely different, after the initial Ecstasy of realizing how great my physical body was, I was "downloading" information from minute to minute I was like, OH RIGHT DUDE that's how it works man now I remember.

I was laughing my ass off so hard about how stupid we humans are, thinking this is real and how we are fooling ourselves perfectly without noticing it.

Then I quickly laid down and closed my eyes, because I was afraid of missing the "journey" because it already felt like I was on the height of the trip even though it was only like 40 mins in.

I quickly realized I'm "God", I'm everything that exists because I created everything.
I was hit by a huge white flash which felt like enlightenment.
Experienced unspeakable Ecstasy and sense of oneness, I felt that I knew absolutely everything and orchestrated everything.

It was like I was completely dissolved in matter, feeling like 100.000.000.000 grains of sand, the whole ocean, just connected with everything.

Went through what felt like the whole creation process and realized it's all balanced like yin and yang.
Like where there is light there is shadow.

I began to feel why "I" created everything because I was so INCREDIBLY lonely, such an everlasting sorrow.
And that was why "I" split myself into trillions of pieces to experience everything in unison.

Because what is the most precious experience worth, if you can't share it with someone else?

After slowly zooming back into my body, I still felt one with everything, I thought I could just choose to stay "there" because this is a meaningless game anyway, I just wanted to be...

Unfortunately it wasn't my time yet and I was separated, it felt like being born again.(not in a good way)
Getting pulled away from the "source" was so incredibly saddening.
I felt so empty, so lonely...

After noticing this wet sensation it dawned upon me that I might have pissed myself in this rush of Ecstasy, where I did let go of everything.
I thought I could make this go away and control the matter like I did on that journey/dream/experience, just shove this out of existence.

Sadly I had to realize that this reality is rather real when you are caught inside of it.


After I crawled out of my bed I had to call over my dog and hug him.
So happy he was there like never before.

I felt like getting up and throw away the rest of the mushies but there are still a few unanswered questions...


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: Shen]
    #18788460 - 09/02/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Shen said:
Quote:

crkhd said:
You never die, ever. What is death? You were around before biological life itself. You created the entire universe. There is a forgettance with incarnation but is there? Ultimately you are aware of this as that is Being itself. You might realise there is no gaining knowledge, only remembering your true Self, which is infinite and fully self-sufficient already. The body is a character in the story but you are the Writer of the story, the entire thing is your own writing. All writing is your writing, all creation is your creation.

It's amazing how this forum and indeed all life consists of the Self reminding the Self to be loving or aware of the Self. Endless forgettance, who knows why?




Pretty much had the same experience yesterday.
Took 45 or 50g fresh mushies in darkness (first time usage).

Used to watch alot of Mckenna videos and was prepared to have a similar experience.(Meeting strange all knowing entities who would answer my questions...)

But it came completely different, after the initial Ecstasy of realizing how great my physical body was, I was "downloading" information from minute to minute I was like, OH RIGHT DUDE that's how it works man now I remember.

I was laughing my ass off so hard about how stupid we humans are, thinking this is real and how we are fooling ourselves perfectly without noticing it.

Then I quickly laid down and closed my eyes, because I was afraid of missing the "journey" because it already felt like I was on the height of the trip even though it was only like 40 mins in.

I quickly realized I'm "God", I'm everything that exists because I created everything.
I was hit by a huge white flash which felt like enlightenment.
Experienced unspeakable Ecstasy and sense of oneness, I felt that I knew absolutely everything and orchestrated everything.

It was like I was completely dissolved in matter, feeling like 100.000.000.000 grains of sand, the whole ocean, just connected with everything.

Went through what felt like the whole creation process and realized it's all balanced like yin and yang.
Like where there is light there is shadow.

I began to feel why "I" created everything because I was so INCREDIBLY lonely, such an everlasting sorrow.
And that was why "I" split myself into trillions of pieces to experience everything in unison.

Because what is the most precious experience worth, if you can't share it with someone else?

After slowly zooming back into my body, I still felt one with everything, I thought I could just choose to stay "there" because this is a meaningless game anyway, I just wanted to be...

Unfortunately it wasn't my time yet and I was separated, it felt like being born again.(not in a good way)
Getting pulled away from the "source" was so incredibly saddening.
I felt so empty, so lonely...

After noticing this wet sensation it dawned upon me that I might have pissed myself in this rush of Ecstasy, where I did let go of everything.
I thought I could make this go away and control the matter like I did on that journey/dream/experience, just shove this out of existence.

Sadly I had to realize that this reality is rather real when you are caught inside of it.


After I crawled out of my bed I had to call over my dog and hug him.
So happy he was there like never before.

I felt like getting up and throw away the rest of the mushies but there are still a few unanswered questions...



Nice report.
You already have the answers, the only thing the mushrooms do is change your perspective.


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Love is the deep spiritual connection between the self and all things. We are all a part of the same universe.

Crazy cat peekin through a lace bandanna,like a one eyed cheshire, like a diamond eyed jack.

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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: Shen]
    #18789737 - 09/02/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Shen said:
Quote:

crkhd said:
You never die, ever. What is death? You were around before biological life itself. You created the entire universe. There is a forgettance with incarnation but is there? Ultimately you are aware of this as that is Being itself. You might realise there is no gaining knowledge, only remembering your true Self, which is infinite and fully self-sufficient already. The body is a character in the story but you are the Writer of the story, the entire thing is your own writing. All writing is your writing, all creation is your creation.

It's amazing how this forum and indeed all life consists of the Self reminding the Self to be loving or aware of the Self. Endless forgettance, who knows why?




Pretty much had the same experience yesterday.
Took 45 or 50g fresh mushies in darkness (first time usage).

Used to watch alot of Mckenna videos and was prepared to have a similar experience.(Meeting strange all knowing entities who would answer my questions...)

But it came completely different, after the initial Ecstasy of realizing how great my physical body was, I was "downloading" information from minute to minute I was like, OH RIGHT DUDE that's how it works man now I remember.

I was laughing my ass off so hard about how stupid we humans are, thinking this is real and how we are fooling ourselves perfectly without noticing it.

Then I quickly laid down and closed my eyes, because I was afraid of missing the "journey" because it already felt like I was on the height of the trip even though it was only like 40 mins in.

I quickly realized I'm "God", I'm everything that exists because I created everything.
I was hit by a huge white flash which felt like enlightenment.
Experienced unspeakable Ecstasy and sense of oneness, I felt that I knew absolutely everything and orchestrated everything.

It was like I was completely dissolved in matter, feeling like 100.000.000.000 grains of sand, the whole ocean, just connected with everything.

Went through what felt like the whole creation process and realized it's all balanced like yin and yang.
Like where there is light there is shadow.

I began to feel why "I" created everything because I was so INCREDIBLY lonely, such an everlasting sorrow.
And that was why "I" split myself into trillions of pieces to experience everything in unison.

Because what is the most precious experience worth, if you can't share it with someone else?

After slowly zooming back into my body, I still felt one with everything, I thought I could just choose to stay "there" because this is a meaningless game anyway, I just wanted to be...

Unfortunately it wasn't my time yet and I was separated, it felt like being born again.(not in a good way)
Getting pulled away from the "source" was so incredibly saddening.
I felt so empty, so lonely...

After noticing this wet sensation it dawned upon me that I might have pissed myself in this rush of Ecstasy, where I did let go of everything.
I thought I could make this go away and control the matter like I did on that journey/dream/experience, just shove this out of existence.

Sadly I had to realize that this reality is rather real when you are caught inside of it.


After I crawled out of my bed I had to call over my dog and hug him.
So happy he was there like never before.

I felt like getting up and throw away the rest of the mushies but there are still a few unanswered questions...





Good interpretation Shen, copy this down somewhere so that you will remember it always.  Keep adding to it, but don't delete.  :smile:


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One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the dark conscious.
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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: crkhd]
    #18789872 - 09/02/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

crkhd said:
Quote:

Alexestalex said:
All I want to know is why and how I'm caught up in this loop but that's a question for another day.

Have psychedelics given anyone else a perspective like this?




It's amazing how this forum and indeed all life consists of the Self reminding the Self to be loving or aware of the Self. Endless forgettance, who knows why?




Our soul is the most holy thing we have, and our bodies we must appreciate
Our bodies are a reflection of our souls state

It's natural to be happy everyday, else one has lost some part of oneself

Got reinserted into my body :wink: and reconnected with myself & nature
had forgotten myself for 10 years, but I was sure I knew myself, turned out I was very wrong
My physical body was in so bad shape I almost died (went to the hospital many times), was only 26, was careless about myself in every way imagineable, no joy in life

When you are yourself everything you see makes you happy
every part of yourself you love
you appreciate the small things (nature i.e.), the food you eat ,...
Infinite happiness everyday from doing nothing, just being oneself, happiness  comes from within


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: lessismore]
    #18789898 - 09/02/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mio, I am happy for you. It sounds like you have found true happiness. Much respect, I hope I can get there.


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18789984 - 09/02/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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SomeGuyX said:
Mio, I am happy for you. It sounds like you have found true happiness. Much respect, I hope I can get there.



It's a continuous path

I just do what makes me happy and people around me happy, at all times

If something makes me unhappy I know it was wrong and I stop doing it

Happiness is the true self, follow happiness

Living as thoughts/desires/emotions, or stress can make me forget myself easily again, so I try to avoid that, by living moderately and realizing I don't need anything to be happy, happiness is only from being oneself
And by observing my thoughts at all times.

Stress gets me living as thoughts/desires/emotions without even realizing it
Meditation / nature helps me avoid it as long as I do it often enough, removes thoughts and stress

I take daily walks in nature/sit in nature , or meditate if it didn't remove all thoughts
Meditation in nature is even better :-)

Houseplants,pets,walk in nature, sit in nature,gardening  , impossible to be unhappy :-)


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: lessismore]
    #18790040 - 09/02/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, sounds very enlightening. Unfortunately I am still a slave to my stressers and fear of the future, but I will be focusing on meditation more.

Good read, I am glad that I am a member of the shroomery :smile:


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18790180 - 09/02/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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SomeGuyX said:
Wow, sounds very enlightening. Unfortunately I am still a slave to my stressers and fear of the future, but I will be focusing on meditation more.

Good read, I am glad that I am a member of the shroomery :smile:





what mio has found is not a place to "get to" something where you arrive, it is the journey itself and it never ends.  Like traveling a river, don't swim against it, or fight to stay still, float down it :cool:

Only other thing I want to add, for some, time is the enemy. ie, always waiting for something in the future, or regretting the past, but never accepting the present.  Try and keep to the present moment and that "stress" will appear as it really is, just an illusion.


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Re: Life is just a dream. [Re: j_db69]
    #18790446 - 09/02/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The most beautiful and most profound religious emotion that we can experience is the sensation of the mystical. And this mysticality is the power of all true science. If there is any such concept as a God, it is a subtle spirit, not an image of a man that so many have fixed in their minds. In essence, my religion consists of a humble admiration for this illimitable superior spirit that reveals itself in the slight details that we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. [Interview with Peter Bucky]

It is very difficult to elucidate this [cosmic religious] feeling to anyone who is entirely without it, especially as there is no anthropomorphic conception of God corresponding to it. The individual feels the futility of human desires and aims and the sublimity and marvelous order which reveal themselves both in nature and in the world of thought. Individual existence impresses him as a sort of prison and he wants to experience the universe as a single significant whole.

The religious geniuses of all ages have been distinguished by this kind of religious feeling, which knows no dogma and no God conceived in man's image; so that there can be no church whose central teachings are based on it.


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