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What's goin on here?
    #18776696 - 08/30/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)


So, i'm not at all sure what these are at this point. I know that i fucked up and didn't give them a week after colonization before fruiting. But all these mushrooms seem to have their gills on top and pinhead with a hole there... Any ideas on if this is a mutation or contamination?


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18776741 - 08/30/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hahaha, that certainly looks interesting. :popcorn:


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18776769 - 08/30/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

could be mutant but it doesn't even look like a cube to me


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18776770 - 08/30/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

that's kinda what i thought, it looks like something else. Not sure what, but the mycelium looked normal. :confused: thanks for the help. i can upload better pics if anyone thinks it'll help.

EDIT: high rez pics. hope these help...


Here's a link to something i found, not sure if it's even close to the same thing i've got going on. Any ideas?
https://mycotopia.net/forums/fungi-all-edible-medicinal-other-mushrooms/55582-mutant-stems-eating-caps.html

Lastly if this ends up being something no one knows anything about what would you advise I do next. Remove the cakes from the FC and toss them or let it grow? Thanks.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18777143 - 08/30/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'd let them grow.
That's not mold & they're not active mushrooms.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #18777541 - 08/30/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd let them grow.
That's not mold & they're not active mushrooms.



I guess i can do that, leave them in the FC aswell (because i'm gonna need a FC in a few days for other cakes)? Also, what do you mean by not active?


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18778155 - 08/30/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd let them grow.
That's not mold & they're not active mushrooms.



I guess i can do that, leave them in the FC aswell (because i'm gonna need a FC in a few days for other cakes)? Also, what do you mean by not active?




Exactly like it sounds, they won't make you trip.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18778207 - 08/30/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That is weird. It looks like some weird mushrooms pins from mars lol


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: jonnymushroom]
    #18778295 - 08/30/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Exactly like it sounds, they won't make you trip.



Welp. That sucks. I guess just let them fruit in their for a couple days and make another post. q.q
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That is weird. It looks like some weird mushrooms pins from mars lol



IKR, fail fruit is my only guess.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18778474 - 08/30/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, fail fruits. Probably you messed up the environmental settings when they were put inside the terrarium.

Otherwise, it's not the first time I see some kind of weird mutants where epigenetics has some influence.

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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: MAIA]
    #18778491 - 08/30/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Btw, i think they're active, but just do as you said. Wait a couple of days and report back.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: MAIA]
    #18778719 - 08/30/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Btw, i think they're active, but just do as you said. Wait a couple of days and report back.



Aye Aye cap, we'll see what happens. I'll drop pics every 24hrs and I'll write down what happened to the bag pre FC so yall can show me if there's anything else I did other then only 1 week in the dark.  1 more question, can you use hydrogen peroxide on your cube cakes like you can on oyster cakes?


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18778749 - 08/30/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

1 week in the dark ? After pinning or before pinning ?


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: MAIA]
    #18778764 - 08/30/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

like i said i can write the whole process out in a second, but what i meant was one week in the dark for them to colonize the bag before i tried to pin. Which i know is wrong after doing some research on here, more like 2 weeks.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18778765 - 08/30/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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1 more question, can you use hydrogen peroxide on your cube cakes like you can on oyster cakes?




Don't know if oyster cakes have some particularity but the general ratios with peroxide usually are 1 part of h2o2 to 10 parts of h2o.

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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18778783 - 08/30/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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like i said i can write the whole process out in a second, but what i meant was one week in the dark for them to colonize the bag before i tried to pin. Which i know is wrong after doing some research on here, more like 2 weeks.




You must distinguish between colonizing bags and colonized bags. A common colonizing bag usually needs two weeks to become fully colonized. A colonized bag (100% colonized) can be put to fruit at once. Sometimes it takes, max, one week to see pins, but pinning can start as early as 24 hours if perfect conditions are met.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: MAIA]
    #18778817 - 08/30/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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like i said i can write the whole process out in a second, but what i meant was one week in the dark for them to colonize the bag before i tried to pin. Which i know is wrong after doing some research on here, more like 2 weeks.




You must distinguish between colonizing bags and colonized bags. A common colonizing bag usually needs two weeks to become fully colonized. A colonized bag (100% colonized) can be put to fruit at once. Sometimes it takes, max, one week to see pins, but pinning can start as early as 24 hours if perfect conditions are met.



Ok, well i had heard it takes around 1 week to fully take over a cake and you should let it sit for another week before trying to fruit.

The two cakes in the FC currently came from one master grain bag. One of the master bags had some odd contam that made the mycelium grow brick hard and turn orangey/ yellowy/brown. So we threw it out, and turned the second master bag into around 5 cakes. These two are the best looking cakes. One of them had gotten something resembling red lipstick mold. I had let the cake fully colonize and that took around 1 week. then i put them in indirect sunlight to begin the fruiting process, it took about another week in the light before I saw these. I was worried that being in filter patch bags wasn't giving them enough FAE and water, so I made the FC in these pictures. Took the best looking bags, cleaned off the old small fail fruits and put them in the FC. I had FAE from an airstone, it clogged after 24 hrs of running (prob pump is too small). So I have been opening the top for FAE and watering them by hand with a spray bottle.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: volk]
    #18778904 - 08/30/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I see. You probably messed up with air exchanges and Rh. When fail fruits occur, sometimes mycellium grows back again on those fruits and then it pins again. I don't know if that's the case or a weird mutation. Wait and see.


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: MAIA]
    #18778913 - 08/30/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Btw, when you let them sit for a week. Was it in complete 100% darkness ?


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Re: What's goin on here? [Re: MAIA]
    #18778928 - 08/30/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Btw, when you let them sit for a week. Was it in complete 100% darkness ?



YUP. behind a closed door in a hallway closet away from all windows. bad or good?


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