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    #18778262 - 08/30/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey ya'll!!!

My cat is wondering how to go about pasteurizing a mixture like this.

Could he pasteurize the coir/coffee/gypsum in jars as per Frank's tek, and then pasteurize some straw as per RR's tek, then mix them together? I really dont see why not, unless someone knows something about moisture content that i've never heard of.

I've found some stuff about quantities of gypsum, but i'm guessing for about 1-2 quarts of substrate he'll use about a teaspoon or less of gypsum? What he has are pellets, should he put them in the blender and grind it to a powder? What are the downsides to using too much gypsum?

My cat has no verm, so i'm assuming he'd need to increase hid coir if he wants more than one flush. So, maybe something like 60/35/4/1 for coir/straw/coffee/gypsum? Thats not meant to be accurate, but just general sense of the ratios.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18778273 - 08/30/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Cats can't grow mushrooms, sorry dude.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18778274 - 08/30/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My cat is wondering





OMG, stop with the SWIM, FOAF, my cat's uncle's vet is trying to grow mushrooms and asked me to post here to ask questions.

You have been a member here for 8 years....grow up.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18778276 - 08/30/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Damn I gotta get me one of these shroom growing cats! That would save me a lot of work!


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Stromrider]
    #18778292 - 08/30/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If your pussy is growing mushrooms you should probably see a doctor. ... this isn't healthy.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Stromrider]
    #18778319 - 08/30/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A FOAF of SWIM sniffs cat pee.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18778345 - 08/30/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would just throw it all together make sure its all to field capacity and then pasteurize using what ever technique you choose.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: SpitballJedi] * 1
    #18778360 - 08/30/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i dont have a cat! Its just silly to use an impossible SWIM character to replace myself. but, apparently none of you have that kind of sense of humor. so, i am sorry and will never try to be funny with SWIM again.

soooo... anyone wanna move beyond the flaming and lend me a helping hand? Thanks!


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18778375 - 08/30/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I just did miss sensitivity.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: TasteTheSound]
    #18778387 - 08/30/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

aww im not sensitive. i'm a rock :laugh:

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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18778395 - 08/30/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

When pelletized gypsum it's easier to dissolve it in the water you're going to soak your sub in.  Otherwise you get clumps.  As far as straw goes, but if properly pasteurized I don't see why not.  At least that's what my alligator told me.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18778442 - 08/30/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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A FOAF of SWIM sniffs cat pee.



LOL does anyone remember way back in the day when people would post asking if they could get high from house hold products they'd get a bunch of responses from people telling them to huff CP?


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: tbagtag]
    #18778512 - 08/30/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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When pelletized gypsum it's easier to dissolve it in the water you're going to soak your sub in.  Otherwise you get clumps.  As far as straw goes, but if properly pasteurized I don't see why not.  At least that's what my alligator told me.





see guys, tbag gets it.

If there was a best post in a thread award, it would be yours. thank you, sir!


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18778647 - 08/30/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeh I was a little confused when I saw you using swim because I have seen many of your post on here and never saw you use it before.

Still want me a cultivating cat though! :lol:


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18778772 - 08/30/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i dont have a cat! Its just silly to use an impossible SWIM character to replace myself. but, apparently none of you have that kind of sense of humor. so, i am sorry and will never try to be funny with SWIM again.

soooo... anyone wanna move beyond the flaming and lend me a helping hand? Thanks!







There is no humor involved.  Just paranoid individuals who don't understand the internet.  You really think saying your "cat" is growing mushrooms is going to protect you from any sort of possible investigations?  Come on.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18778781 - 08/30/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry you're too late to the party to bust his balls.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18778848 - 08/30/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was the first to the party, actually.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18778862 - 08/30/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well shit im high pay no attention to me.  Usually theres not enough for seconds poor OP looks pretty crispy...but fuck it its friday.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18778937 - 08/30/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lately ive been mixing all my sub together coir\verm\straw, Let soak for a couple hours. And will mix the sub in the water ever so often. Then I squeeze to field capacity, put sub in another container, then I sprinkle the gypsum on and mix well. Then I put sub in jars, ready for pasteurization.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18779276 - 08/30/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You really think saying your "cat" is growing mushrooms is going to protect you from any sort of possible investigations?  Come on.





You really think i'd say that and expect anyone who is out to get me to give up because i blame my cat? Come on!


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18779417 - 08/30/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Your cat should remove the coffee unless he has a perfectly clean area as while it's doable, contams love it.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai] * 1
    #18779427 - 08/30/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alright guys enough already. He said he was just joking around and I have seen several of his post and he never used swim or "my cat" before so cut him some slack. It's not like he just joined our community. He knows what's up. Besides my dog says he wants to get back to talking about cultivation :rofl:
Gee whiz


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Stromrider]
    #18779722 - 08/30/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hahaha thanks psilly.

I decided to drop the coffee because its quite old and had been frozed, wasnt thawing as quickly as i would have liked and for the reason stygian mentioned -- contaminants.

i did Frank's pasteurize tek and fucked it up and now i think half of it is sterile and half of it is pasteurized. I guess i'll just try to be as clean as possible and hope for the best.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Stromrider]
    #18779826 - 08/30/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Alright guys enough already. He said he was just joking around and I have seen several of his post and he never used swim or "my cat" before so cut him some slack. It's not like he just joined our community. He knows what's up. Besides my dog says he wants to get back to talking about cultivation :rofl:
Gee whiz




I've been meaning to tell you but I want to steal your dog. ..... I'll trade you some prints lol.


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: tbagtag]
    #18780052 - 08/31/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

wait..... the weiner dog?

btw i wouldnt be surprised if my dubtub is fucked. like i said in my previous post..

here is a pic of it


so because i feared that i sterilized it, i took it into my bathroom (aka giant SAB that hasnt failed me yet) and did all the work in there. rubbed alcohol did all the shit i could think of to keep clean.. now of course once i put the polyfil in, thats a disaster. It came from the closet of the bedroom to the bathroom and had no sterile treatment (can i soak in alcohol and let it evaporate??? maybe next time....)

then i went to take ^ that pic and realized i somehow forgot two polyfil holes while the dubtub was sitting on my kitchen counter... so, gj on that one. I'm not too confident in this, and it saddens me. If it pulls through i will be a very happy camper. free prints for those of you who didnt troll me!! :laugh: <3


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18780332 - 08/31/13 05:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Tbag you're not getting my dog! That is my side kick. I am trying to teach him to cultivate like psilocybebonsai's cat as we speak! :grin:

Psilocybebosai my best advice to you is next time K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) No offense intended

A plain coir/verm/gypsum substrate in a monotub (or dubtub) has been very good to me. I don't understand why anyone would want to add other things to it when this simple mixture performs so well. :shrug:

Good luck with your tub. I hope it works out for you. Keep us updated on its progress


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: Stromrider]
    #18782154 - 08/31/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Psilocybebosai my best advice to you is next time K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) No offense intended

A plain coir/verm/gypsum substrate in a monotub (or dubtub) has been very good to me. I don't understand why anyone would want to add other things to it when this simple mixture performs so well. :shrug:





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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18782335 - 08/31/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i didnt wanna make it complicated, and i ended up not. The coffee, after some thought, seemed too complicated.

Keep in mind i'm in it for the science. I know things have been tested and proven, but i like to question those things and see where else i can go, based on it. (of course coffee isnt new, but i am new so tested methods that have been tested is an adventure for now).

My favorite part is the process, the fruit bodies are the reward.

No offense taken. :smile:


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Re: Coir/Straw/Coffee/Gypsum [Re: psilocybebonsai]
    #18784561 - 09/01/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I occasionally add spent coffee grains to my spawn, while it does still up contam rates at 2nd or 3rd flush, it's less finicky than adding it to bulk and the mushies still love it.


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