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Useless sensitivity
    #18769062 - 08/28/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I really need to figure out how to get selfish. My sensitivity does no one and nothing any good. I'm not living well enough. Not sure how to get more self focussed.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #18769139 - 08/28/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You've always been selfish but didn't recognize it.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: Icelander]
    #18769204 - 08/28/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Generosity, love, compassion, sharing are not morally admirable but are byproducts of having empowered yourself and figured yourself out.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: circastes]
    #18769722 - 08/28/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So?  If that's even true which I highly doubt.

  He was wondering how to be more selfish. 


Focus dude.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #18769753 - 08/28/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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usulpsychonaut said:
I really need to figure out how to get selfish. My sensitivity does no one and nothing any good. I'm not living well enough. Not sure how to get more self focussed.




I'm the same way, although I'd call it "figuring out how to temporarily ignore my empathy".  I have been in countless situations where if I just had not cared so much for what other people think and feel I'd be in a much better place right now.  :thumbup:

Of course, empathy is a nice thing to have (sometimes), so the tricky thing is in figuring out how to shut it off for a period of time but not lose it permanently a la desensitization.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: deCypher]
    #18770586 - 08/28/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Oh the topic, I thought it was circastes-o-clock again.

Okay well try a little harder at what you do until something really good shines through, then claim it as your own. Self worth is pretty important and oversensitivity or overstretched compassion at your expense is very unattractive.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: circastes]
    #18771228 - 08/28/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

good boy :lol:


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #18771483 - 08/29/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'd edit this thread so that the OP sounded like a narcissistic cry for everyone here to drop what they were doing and focus all their brain power on solving your problems. If it feels good you'll be on your way to building the ego of your dreams


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: circastes]
    #18771519 - 08/29/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
You've always been selfish but didn't recognize it.




I've got all my selfishness wrong, it needs tuning.


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I'd edit this thread so that the OP sounded like a narcissistic cry for everyone here to drop what they were doing and focus all their brain power on solving your problems. If it feels good you'll be on your way to building the ego of your dreams




I don't see how the way it feels would help me build an ego of my dreams, I'm glad you did not write beyond my wildest dreams. Fucking hate that term. This thread is feeling good. I've got a narcissistic cry.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #18771550 - 08/29/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have no way of knowing how wild your dreams are.

Yeah the selfish thing, all you need to do is something selfish that then gets rewarded. I'd recommend not eating for a few days then going to town and stealing the food out of someone's hand. The food will be so satisfying that the act of the theft would be strongly reinforced and you ought to come to choose the selfish option more often.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: viktor]
    #18771580 - 08/29/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The food people walk around with in their hands, I would not eat that shit.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #18771877 - 08/29/13 05:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've got all my selfishness wrong, it needs tuning.


That's it. :thumbup:


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: Icelander]
    #18772902 - 08/29/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
So?  If that's even true which I highly doubt.

  He was wondering how to be more selfish. 


Focus dude.





But that's not spiritual at all.


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: yeah]
    #18773243 - 08/29/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

According to you. :pope:


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: Icelander]
    #18775676 - 08/29/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So spirituality isn't about becoming more spiritual?


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: yeah]
    #18776167 - 08/30/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Spiritual means different things to different people. :wink:


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: deCypher]
    #18776181 - 08/30/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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deCypher said:
Quote:

usulpsychonaut said:
I really need to figure out how to get selfish. My sensitivity does no one and nothing any good. I'm not living well enough. Not sure how to get more self focussed.




I'm the same way, although I'd call it "figuring out how to temporarily ignore my empathy".  I have been in countless situations where if I just had not cared so much for what other people think and feel I'd be in a much better place right now.  :thumbup:

Of course, empathy is a nice thing to have (sometimes), so the tricky thing is in figuring out how to shut it off for a period of time but not lose it permanently a la desensitization.




The key is meditation

To control thoughts/emotions/desires without them controlling you, at all times

Meditation in nature is even better

and also moderation of drug use, drug use make you stay in acceptance for many months (high doses LSD/shrooms i.e.)
you need a little bit of both to live sometimes (acceptance and nonaccepance: emotions etc)

acceptance all the time then it is hard to interact with others in a normal way
but it does depend on who you act with

I have experienced it many times, but only when I've been to the doc, then it's not good to be in acceptance mode when you got kidney stones and can only lay down lol
there you need to let your thoughts+emotions run away with you or you get sent home, you have to complain a lot (especially if you go to the ER, they like sending people home)

Acceptance and appreciation of what you have always makes sense
but sometimes you have to ignore it and 'act normal'


Edited by lessismore (08/30/13 06:00 AM)


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: lessismore]
    #18776208 - 08/30/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It helps to realize you are not your thoughts, so they have no control over you

You can be any way you want to be at any time

Because once you see how pointless they are (thoughts/desires/emotions), they are not so tempting to keep living as, when you know they only bring suffering, attachment, frustration, fear, worries,...

But you can still do them rarely and suffer a bit and go back, we all have to

If you don't want to go back, just start living as thoughts/desires/emotions again, it's very easy
in no time you will be back to how you were before

start smoking weed everyday, have sex with strangers, do anything you desire without caring for others

it doesn't sound so tempting
did you know that satanist means to live by your desires?

I chose to live by what makes me happy and others happy, not my desires
but I do follow my desires once in a while, if I don't meditate enough

what makes me happy is not living as thoughts/desires/emotions , I would never want to go back, no need to go back and create your own suffering after you know what makes you unhappy

follow what makes you happy instead
live now in the moment without worries


Edited by lessismore (08/30/13 06:30 AM)


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #18776211 - 08/30/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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usulpsychonaut said:
I really need to figure out how to get selfish. My sensitivity does no one and nothing any good. I'm not living well enough. Not sure how to get more self focussed.




Sensitivity to what does you no good?

Become sensitive to yourself, to the presence of consciousness within you

Sensitivity is evolutionary, so you should be happy that you are sensitive, it's better than being dull & insensitive, just be sensitive towards the right things


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Re: Useless sensitivity [Re: lessismore]
    #18776444 - 08/30/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm thinking this world anxiety is a symptom of detached awareness of my body. Not being sensitive to my body causes me to be sensitive to frightful phantoms lurking in the corners of my mind. 

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usulpsychonaut said:
I really need to figure out how to get selfish. My sensitivity does no one and nothing any good. I'm not living well enough. Not sure how to get more self focussed.




I'm the same way, although I'd call it "figuring out how to temporarily ignore my empathy".  I have been in countless situations where if I just had not cared so much for what other people think and feel I'd be in a much better place right now.  :thumbup:

Of course, empathy is a nice thing to have (sometimes), so the tricky thing is in figuring out how to shut it off for a period of time but not lose it permanently a la desensitization.




The key is meditation





Pretty sure I'm deep into this process now.


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