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elemi
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Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions.
#18775500 - 08/29/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am searching specifically for pan. Cinctulus, and I want to re-establish all the information I have gained on everything from the habitat, to the month and to the temperature.
Weather/date: Humid and 80 degrees by 12 O clock tomorrow, 2-3 days after rain shower, August 30th.
Location: all possible ideas I have so far are on trails that horses ride on constantly and most likely shit on a lot. (Only because if I'm to pussy to trespass onto a pasture.) BUT if I find an abandoned pasture that is spacious to as where I won't get f*ckin shot by a farmer then yay for me.
I have recently checked on a lot of lawns. A friends backyard and an apartment complex lawn and woodchips everywhere but nothing but a p. foe. Which I heard are harmless and contain alkaloids other then psilocybin.
I am very new to actually taking hunting seriously and putting in my 2 cents and doing research. Hopefully If all my research pays off and I find a good field that I won't get trampled by bulls, electrified by fence, or a shell of rock salt to the face from a pissed off farmer then wish me luck and let me know of my outcome and help ID me to my first successful actives!!
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18775515 - 08/29/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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http:// 
These are the p. foes. I found today, I tossed them because I had a hunch because the gills were brown. But the caps looked promising as most p. cinctulus have the same ring design on top from the pics I've seen. So excitement can easily be ruined by the slightest details, now that my eyes are slightly more trained on what to look for my search tomorrow should be promising I look forward to seeing my first jet black spore print. I have Syrian rue, and acacia confusa, so my ayahuasca experiences have made me want to delve into mycology more seriously.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18775732 - 08/30/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well bottom-left is definitely a foe, the other 2 its hard to tell without better pics and a spore print. Bottom-right in particular looks promising to me. But either way you seem like you are on the right track. Unfortunately I think the cinct season is past its prime in your part of the country so you will probably not find as many as you would a month ago.
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Edited by Peteza34 (08/30/13 12:34 AM)
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: Peteza34]
#18775773 - 08/30/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn..... is there any point at all for me to go searching ? I read somewhere that the whole 'prime season' for hunting these shrooms is just a generalization.
That they grow annually given the humidity, temp, rainfall.
That's why California you can almost get them year round. I live in the more farm country side of newyork.
I REALLy need to solve the confusion on the best habitat to find them.
Some people say cow pastures, some people say no not cows only horses, some people report that normal lawns could even hold p. cinctulus. Any help on what would be best for my region? And damn I know that p. foes are indicators right?
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18775777 - 08/30/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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And In some places late August early fall is still a great time to hunt them as long as its sunny after it rains
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18776127 - 08/30/13 04:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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elemi said: Some people say cow pastures, some people say no not cows only horses, some people report that normal lawns could even hold p. cinctulus. Any help on what would be best for my region? And damn I know that p. foes are indicators right?
Don't limit yourself. They grow in all of those places and more.
Here are some pan cincts found in a woodchip tree bed in downtown Washington DC
  
Happy hunting. 
But, horse manure and manured lawns are their favorite places.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18776648 - 08/30/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow those are beautiful specimen. Those look like pan cinctulus to me!
The only thing that confuses me is your habitat I thought for sure they don't grow on woodchips?
And I'm going out hunting today!! Hopefully ill bring back a brown paper bagful of cincts
Just went out and searched lawns couldn't even find a foe. :/ hopefully ill have better luck on my journey today
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777183 - 08/30/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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elemi said: The only thing that confuses me is your habitat I thought for sure they don't grow on woodchips?
If the woodchips are fertilized, they will grow from the soil under the chips. It's a lot rarer than horse manure and yards though.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777202 - 08/30/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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From my experience cincts love to grow on pastures like this

Can you see this tall thick grass? They love grow nearby, also there should be hay or dead grass laying around. Cincts grow nearby old shit, not especially directly on it. I clear more than 1kg from my field every time I go. I know it can be frustrating spending all this time on finding right field, but when you find it, it will be worth it, seeing cincts everywhere you look around.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: DoomSquirrel]
#18777210 - 08/30/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Didn't know they liked sheep shit too.
Or is it the straw/hay?
Either way, good info.
Edited by MacMerdin (08/30/13 12:49 PM)
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777215 - 08/30/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777217 - 08/30/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Disregard sheep, I found this picture on google. Grass configuration is important, fuck the sheep.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777218 - 08/30/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Found them on woodchips righ by horse poop
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777221 - 08/30/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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elemi said: These are the p. foes. I found today, I tossed them because I had a hunch because the gills were brown.
Young cincts will look like they have brownish gills. When in doubt, spore print them always.
Edited by MacMerdin (08/30/13 01:07 PM)
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777225 - 08/30/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please somebody ID THEM!!http://
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777227 - 08/30/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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elemi said: Found them on woodchips righ by horse poop
They look promising. Can you get any better photos?
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777238 - 08/30/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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elemi said:
I see mottled gills which means a Pan species. Also, they look blackish/charcoal. Very promising IMO.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777248 - 08/30/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777252 - 08/30/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also cincts can vary so much in shape and size, it depends on depletion of nutrients, weather. I found cincts that were even smaller than foes. Best way is to find good field, pick couple flushes and learn cincts genetics. I bet beginners throw away perfectly good cincts, just because they can vary in look so much and confuse. I still throw some when I'm not sure.
@OP your pictures are not good for identify, because you have bad focus. Your hand is focused and cap is blurred.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777255 - 08/30/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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In my unprofessional opinion, I'd say you got 'em. 
Wait for a TI to confirm before consumption though.
Edited by MacMerdin (08/30/13 01:04 PM)
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777273 - 08/30/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shit the stems bruise red went broken, and they grow on horse poop. I think I got them. I will take spore prints and better pics later -.- I'm stil out in the field
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777280 - 08/30/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good luck bro
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777281 - 08/30/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They look promising to me. Red stems, mottle black/charcoal gills, the sandy look to the caps, the habitat.
But, like I said wait for a TI and definitely do those spore prints and better photos.
Happy hunting.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777293 - 08/30/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok On my way! Home now I got a little bag filled with them:) haha hard work pays off if the spore prints are jet black I'm not waisting my Time on a proper ID.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777307 - 08/30/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Although there are no known poisonous pans, some mushrooms with black prints can still make you ill. Ink caps mixed with alcohol for one example. Be careful.
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777323 - 08/30/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ugh, I am very confident and I hope my hunch was right, I planned this day out, and it's my first time finding active shrooms. I would be so pissed if they aren't even pan species. I'm going to take some model quality photos of these good smelling shrooms:)
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777358 - 08/30/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They are tasty cracker crispy
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: DoomSquirrel]
#18777451 - 08/30/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: MacMerdin]
#18777627 - 08/30/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Waiting on spore print . One mushroom that over lapped a smaller mushroom dropped pure black spores these aren't ink caps
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: DoomSquirrel]
#18777651 - 08/30/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wait for TI, but in my opinion you can start preparing for some tripping.
Edited by DoomSquirrel (08/30/13 02:34 PM)
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: DoomSquirrel]
#18777660 - 08/30/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks so much for every bodies help, how do I get a TI to look at my pics?
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777863 - 08/30/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777879 - 08/30/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18777884 - 08/30/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All black. Thanks these are cincts. I'm already tripping. Happy hunting!
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18778305 - 08/30/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I have been mislead I guess on this thread , apparently these aren't pan. Cinctulus.
Please freaking someone get a TI -.-
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Re: Pan. Cinctulus hunting questions. [Re: elemi]
#18778422 - 08/30/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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elemi said: So I have been mislead I guess on this thread , apparently these aren't pan. Cinctulus.
Please freaking someone get a TI -.-
Its not that you were mislead, they all told you to wait for a TI. You just needed some better pictures.
Turns out they were cincts after all
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