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OfflineGreySatyr
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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Evil Punkster]
    #18780539 - 08/31/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think you just stated your real problems. You just use spice to escape the fact that you have let your life become dull and you haven't applied any flare to it. You need friends, hobbies, work, your mind desires an outlet of use and you only use it when you smoke spice. You're suffering of your own will. Only you have the power to change your life and make it worthwhile.


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18780583 - 08/31/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. I'm working on it the best I can. I know it's gonna be a long way with many relapses. But eventually I'll be abstinent. It's also sad that I can't use non-addictive drugs like mushrooms, because they may cause a relapse...

I was totally anti-drug 2 years before. Then I became interested and tried drugs and loved it. Today, I know that I should have known better. I'm not saying drugs are bad and will lead everyone to addiction or problems. But for me they did and so I'm recommending drug use with caution.

I didn't listen to people telling me to stay away from drugs, now I'm addicted. If anyone asks me, I will warn them about the possible risks and they will probably not listen to me just as I did. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not anti-drugs. But for me, drugs caused many problems. Most people will not have problems, tho...

I honestly don't know if I should be pro-drugs or anti-drugs now... I think everyone should try it, but I also know that a handful of people like me will eventually flush their live down the toilet.

If I'd only stayed away from Spice, I could have had wonderful experiences one after the other without having any problems at all.


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  • Mushrooms :heart:, LSA, 4-HO-MET, AL-LAD, 25i-NBOMe, 2C-C, 2C-P :heart:
  • 5-MeO-DMT :heart:, N2O, DXM :thumbdown:, 3-MeO-PCP, 2-MeO-Ketamine, Salvia
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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Evil Punkster]
    #18781083 - 08/31/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You shouldn't be pro or anti drugs. You should spread the truth of drugs and let other decide of their own will instead of trying to turn people one way or the other. As for you, it's not a drug that causes a relapse, it is the mind state that you're in right now that is causing the relapses.


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18781973 - 08/31/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What grey said....


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Evil Punkster]
    #18782578 - 08/31/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

To the OP...I can relate to your thread title. I'd like to say, though, I don't find the autism spectrum to be a mental "illness", I can't stand that label. It's just a different operating system of sorts, a different way of perceiving the world, nature has a use and need for neuro-diversity, the collective that is humanity needs a diverse mix of different ways of thinking/perceiving. I think the autism spectrum is mis-understoond by a lot of folks.


I am on the autism spectrum and find psychoactive plants/chemicals and altered states of consciousness to be super interesting, both are deep interests of mine. Growing up I was naive when it came to drugs, caught up in all the propaganda, but I've always been a super curious person. Eventually curiosity and knowledge of the truth in regards to drugs got to me and I tried alcohol and cannabis....Even before I tried my first drug, alcohol, I was finding ways to alter my consciousness and/or explore my mind from as far back as I can remember (using various methods such as, spinning in circles, doing mantras that I made up, repetitive movements that would trance me out in a way, lucid dreaming, etc...). Though I have dabbled with a wide variety of actives (erm, "drugs"), my main interest is cannabis and the classic psychedelics (and psychoactive plants/ medicinal herbs generally). I didn't get a buzz from alcohol for my first time until I was around 17 or 18, didn't smoke weed until I was 19, and didn't trip for my first time until I was 20. Also do months of research into anything before I try it.



I use cannabis every day and have been doing so for the past 6 years, besides a few days I'll go with out here and there. I use it more as a medicine rather than something purely to get "high" off of....that's not to say I don't like getting really high and stoned out of my gourd from time to time...I'm just saying generally all I smoke is a tenth to two tenths of a gram a day, a hit off the pipe or bong every few hours, no need to smoke myself into a stupor all day long. It dulls down social anxiety and anxiety in general, helps me sleep, usually I can socialize and interact a bit better after smoking, it just all around smooths things out for me and packs a whole bunch of other health benefits.


Can I ask why you smoke spice instead of real cannabis? As you probably already know, the synthetic cannabinoids found in those spice blends are not as "safe" and benevolent as cannabis. I believe most of them are full cannabinoid CB1 agonists, with little to no action on CB2. In comparison to natural cannabinoids like THC, which is only a partial agonists. And in real cannabis there's a whole bunch of other cannabinoids and terpenes that touch other parts of the cannabinoid system and balance out the effects. All the spice chemicals do is hit CB1 heavily, bringing out far more side effects.





MDMA helped me out a lot with problems I have associated with being on the spectrum. I'm not even going to begin trying to find the words to explain, and it'd likely end up a ridiculous long rant with many tangents, so I'll just say that my first couple experiences with mdma was a huge eye opener for me. I'll go into things more detailed if you want, or through PM.



I've always been in my own little "bubble", constantly in my mind, spacing out and thinking about random shit, going over patterns, visualizing concepts non-stop, and on and on....Being the curious, introspective, observant, non-verbal thinking, chill passive dude that I am, with a decent amount of self control...Psychedelics & drugs in general are something that really meshes with me well :smirk: .


I've talked to quite a handful of folks that are on the autism spectrum that smoke cannabis regularly, and for similar reasons and amounts that I use it. And quite a few of those that are interested in psychedelics as well. Though it seems like a lot of people on the spectrum are doped up on pharmaceutical anti-depressants, stimulants, anti-psychotics, etc etc etc, caught up in that viscous cycle of non-sense chemicals.










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GreyMorph said:
You shouldn't be pro or anti drugs. You should spread the truth of drugs and let other decide of their own will instead of trying to turn people one way or the other. As for you, it's not a drug that causes a relapse, it is the mind state that you're in right now that is causing the relapses.





:thumbup:  ....Agreed :yesnod:






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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: openmind]
    #18784167 - 09/01/13 05:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Can I ask why you smoke spice instead of real cannabis?




Because I don't leave my house unless I really need to. I only go outside to go to work and then return home. I tried to buy some weed with a friend some time ago and got ripped off. I'm afraid to talk to people, you know. Going outside is a big toll on my psych. I buy everything from Amazon even if it costs a lot more.

Spice is something I can order online. Also the effects are so strong, that I can perceive morphing 3D images everywhere. I don't think weed can give me this. It's like staring at the wall and seeing a beautiful movie appearing there.

I just like to get heavily stoned and I always enjoyed it, about 150 times without a single bad experience.

Currently, I'm trying to stay abstinent. I already got a week.


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  • Mushrooms :heart:, LSA, 4-HO-MET, AL-LAD, 25i-NBOMe, 2C-C, 2C-P :heart:
  • 5-MeO-DMT :heart:, N2O, DXM :thumbdown:, 3-MeO-PCP, 2-MeO-Ketamine, Salvia
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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Evil Punkster]
    #18785076 - 09/01/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think your real problem is your idle mind. When I was younger and I had a idle mind I found myself addicted to porn, Mountain Dew and video games. Your problem is that you have no drive, no focus, no motivation, no hobbies, no interests, no goals ect and ect.

In other words, you're wasting your life away without realizing this and the potential that you have to alter your own perception by just doing something besides smoking spice. Every action creates an altered perception of the world. If I go for a jog it creates and altered reality to what I normally perceive. There is nothing changing in your life and that is why you feel as if you need spice, because it powerfully alters your mind and after having it idle for so long, it feels good to have an altered perception so quickly and powerfully. You're basically using spice to compensate for your lack of using your minds potential when sober. No psychoactive substance should be used this way. A psychoactive should be used to enhance the quality of life, not overcome the lack of life altogether.


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18785502 - 09/01/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

GreyMorph said:
I think your real problem is your idle mind.




You nailed it. I think that's my problem. I'm looking forward to stay abstinent, otherwise I will go to rehab. I honestly have no idea how they will help me, but it's worth a try if everything else fails.


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ToDo List: LSD, MDMA, DiPT
Done:
  • Alcohol, Caffeine, Nicotine
  • Weed, Spice (JWH-210 :heart:, JWH-250, UR-144), AKB-48, AM-2201,
  • Mushrooms :heart:, LSA, 4-HO-MET, AL-LAD, 25i-NBOMe, 2C-C, 2C-P :heart:
  • 5-MeO-DMT :heart:, N2O, DXM :thumbdown:, 3-MeO-PCP, 2-MeO-Ketamine, Salvia
  • 4-FA, Ethylphenidate :heart:


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Evil Punkster]
    #18786517 - 09/01/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't had a truly bad day since I first tried psychedelics.

I must be real mentally ill, or a genius. Wait, its the same thing. Naw but seriously even my worst trips taught so much about how I want to live my life, now I'm doing exactly what I dreamed of doing. Living the life I always wanted lead. And its only the beginning, not even too long out of highschool still. It's gonna be an interesting life..


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: EvolveShrooms]
    #18787018 - 09/01/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It may help, evil. Then again it may set you back, they will try to brain wash you.

Evolve, I'm sorta in the same boat although I have had bad days, I've lived a rough early life as an adult. Things are getting better though. Psychedelics definitely helped me a lot, they also held me back in some ways but they helped more in most aspects. It just took me a long long time to be able to be a productive person in modern society. It's still difficult but what is life without a little challenge?


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18787110 - 09/01/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't do drugs. Life is long.


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Yage]
    #18787788 - 09/02/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

if you have aspergers and you want to be a part of society i suggest working with your mirror neurons to have a feel of what the people around you are feeling, and then try to integrate that into your interactions with people. it will take a little trial and error but once you figure it out you'd be better at it than people who never had this in mind.


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Evil Punkster]
    #19522088 - 02/04/14 07:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Evil Punkster said:
I have aspergers syndrome. I don't think there are many people with mental illnesses who use drugs, especially with autism, but I'm very curious. Does anyone of you suffer a mental illness and use drugs?





Autism of any kind is not a "mental illness." It's a neurological variation. I would expect you of all people to appreciate the difference...  :notamused:


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Advocate]
    #19522753 - 02/04/14 09:41 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

My brother has asbergers and as a student of psychology and anthropology I can honestly tell you the concept of asbergers is a lie. You have different strengths and weaknesses than what society deems as "normal" Don't let anyone tell you that you're mentally ill, weird or challenged in any way.

Do all the drugs you want as long as you don't begin to prioritize it over work, school, socializing, etc.


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Re: I have aspergers syndrome and I like drugs [Re: Advocate]
    #19522774 - 02/04/14 09:44 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

hmmm, my son has and been tested for aspergers, and oppositional defiance disorder. I wanna choke him out most of the time. His IQ is off the charts, but so is his behavior at times..a lot of the times.

I busted him smoking pot. It slows him down a lot and makes him a mouth breather, to the point I can actually tolerate him and talk with him.

Weed, actual weed may be a good thing for you, in moderation. Don't smoke it to get fucked up. Smoke it as a med, not a social escape or party drug.

It may round the edges for you and make you less touchy to your world that you live in.

Fuck spice, that's hobo weed...made in china, you want to smoke anything made in china?


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