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Re: College Football '13 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #19179333 - 11/23/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I really hope Georgia Southern wins this game :lol:
Maybe the SEC will at least start scheduling their FCS teams at the beginning of the year like the rest of us.

Haha, Florida lost. I guess Georgia Southern is ready to run with the big boys next year.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
    #19179353 - 11/23/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Playing for a fuck of a lot more than pride.

I'd love to hang 100 on Indiana. That would be baller.





That would be bullshit, running up the score orgonesque faggotry. If they do that i hope one of their most important players tear an ACL.


Ohio State is going to need a lot of help to get in the National Championship.


God i hope oregon loses to Arizona.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: elax420] * 1
    #19179453 - 11/23/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You can't be serious. All they do is get knocked for not winning by enough. Anyway I didn't really mean just running up the score so much as they got out to a 14 point start in like 8 minutes. There's a difference between running up the score and busting 60 yard runs. Some of the "help" they need to get into the BCS title game is beating times like Indiana by a million points. Like it or not that's the way shit works right now. Last week it was all "Ohio State barely beats Illinois" and a bunch of analysts saying how winning by 24 while giving up 35 isn't enough. You want people to get hurt because teams run up the score? Then the talking heads on TV is where you should be looking, not the players on the field.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: elax420]
    #19179462 - 11/23/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Geez, Wolfe has Georgia Southern rated 193rd and Florida 60th.

Sagarin has Florida 59th (37th w/ scoring margin) and Georgia Southern 171st.

The spread was -27.5 for Florida.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
    #19179505 - 11/23/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You can't be serious. All they do is get knocked for not winning by enough. Anyway I didn't really mean just running up the score so much as they got out to a 14 point start in like 8 minutes. There's a difference between running up the score and busting 60 yard runs. Some of the "help" they need to get into the BCS title game is beating times like Indiana by a million points. Like it or not that's the way shit works right now. Last week it was all "Ohio State barely beats Illinois" and a bunch of analysts saying how winning by 24 while giving up 35 isn't enough. You want people to get hurt because teams run up the score? Then the talking heads on TV is where you should be looking, not the players on the field.





No I’m dead serious. Sportsmanship and respect are critical.

The only thing that is going to get them into the national championship are other teams losing. Beating a dead horse is just going to make more people hate OSU and not want them in it. Congratulations you beat the shit out of one of the shittiest programs around. You should totally be rewarded for playing shit teams all year now....


Its the nature of the BCS man you should be used to it. No way OSU deserves a spot in the title game over the undefeated 2 time reigning champ or an undefeated FSU.
The best team OSU has beat is 21 wisconsin.
FSU has beat two top ten teams, and one top 5.


They still aren’t even out of the woods. Michigan State is a good team.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: elax420] * 1
    #19179532 - 11/23/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I never said they should be in over those teams. I'm just saying that they get knocked for not winning enough. If sportsmanship and respect are critical, tell that to the people who are encouraging blowouts.

Ohio State needed to decimate Indiana, Michigan, and need to beat Michigan State in order to have a shot at the championship if only one of Bama and FSU lose and Baylor wins out because Baylor will jump them this week with a win.

I know it's the nature of the BCS, I am used to it. You seem to be the one who isn't. It's the nature of the BCS to require Ohio State (or any team that isn't already thrust into god-like status) to win by astronomical amount of points. Like I said, I didn't want them to run up the score. Just thought it would be cool if they scored 100; obviously that was never going to happen :lol:

Unless you are suggesting Ohio State shouldn't do everything in their power to try and make a national championship. Not much they can do about their schedule. Nor is Florida State's schedule that much stronger, so I'm not even really sure what you're talking about.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Man, conversing with you in this thread was actually tolerable for a page or two, I knew it wouldn't last :lol:


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
    #19179563 - 11/23/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You seem to be encouraging a blowout. I told you.


Ohio State has too weak of a schedule to get in. They would take a 1 loss Alabama or Auburn all day over Ohio state, and they should....


I don’t know what that link is and FSU has a pretty weak schedule but at least they beat fucking clemson, who very easily have found themselves in the position FSU is in right now. Miami was ranked 7 i never buy into miami and i haven’t really seen them play so i can’t speak much about them, but you know Clemson was legit as fuck.

I like wisco but they aren’t a top tier team :shrug:



Looking at that link, i tried to do something like that with excel for the NFL didn’t really turn out the way i wanted but i still got an A on it. Was pretty fun.

I don’t really like that guys numbers at all though. BYU has a higher home field advantage than Utah, Which is complete and utter bullshit. BYUs stadium is placid as fuck and filled with sober mormons and their 8 little kids that get offended if you swear. the fact they are top 25 is a joke.

I also loled that Utah has the hardest schedule.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: elax420]
    #19179586 - 11/23/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I'm encouraging a blow out because EVERYONE ELSE is encouraging a blowout. The narrative at this point is "If Ohio State isn't blowing out teams, they suck". There's a difference between running up the score and winning a blow out. I think you took my 100 points post a bit too serious as well. They aren't going to score 100 points in a game in a really really long time, if ever in our lifetimes. They simply jumped out to a very early 14-0 lead.

No they wouldn't and no they shouldn't take a one loss Auburn or Alabama team. Don't be ridiculous. The SEC isn't THAT good this year. However the issue isn't a one loss Bama or Auburn, but rather a one loss Bama and undefeated Baylor who will likely be ahead of Ohio State in the BCS. The only way that changes is if Ohio State absolutely decimates in their last three (two now) games and the voters decide to put them ahead of Baylor. That's just the way things work, as you said. If respect and sportsmanship are important to you, perhaps you shouldn't be wishing an ACL injury on Braxton Miller for Ohio State playing the way they need to in order to have a chance. Like I said, if you don't like blowouts and think they are classless or whatever, blame the system. Teams have been put into the situation where winning isn't enough. Don't like it? Too bad. Don't wish injury on kids for it, that's ridiculous.

Miami was ranked seven but they suck. They're not even ranked anymore. It doesn't matter that they WERE seventh.

I'm a little surprised you don't know what the Sagarin ratings are though.

Edit: Also probably the only reason they are in this spot (though it's possible they would have been here anyway) is precisely because they didn't blow out SDSU and Cal.

It sucks sitting around on Saturdays and rooting for teams that have nothing to do with Ohio State though. It's lame and I welcome the playoff system next year with open arms.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit] * 1
    #19179658 - 11/23/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

None of this is going to matter though. Michigan is just gonna fuck it all up like the assholes they are :lol:


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
    #19179686 - 11/23/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I really hope Georgia Southern wins this game :lol:
Maybe the SEC will at least start scheduling their FCS teams at the beginning of the year like the rest of us.

Haha, Florida lost. I guess Georgia Southern is ready to run with the big boys next year.





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Re: College Football '13 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19179757 - 11/23/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sagarin doesn't compute home advantage for particular teams, only for the home team on the average...


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19179843 - 11/23/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Im pretty sure Georgia would beat OSU this year. SEC is deep as fuck. :cookiemonster:

I mean i used to be all for the no loss team going over the 1 loss team that you know for a fact is legit, but I’m sick of really shitty BCS championships. I just wanna see alabama lose but they aren’t so no sense in getting my hopes up.

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If that sagarin dude does the NFL that would have saved me so much time of compiling and creating data :facepalm:


I bet he has a fucking home field advantage thing already made. It was hard as fuck to make, probably wrong, and didn’t even work how i wanted it to so i just dropped it.

I was trying to predict the rest of the NFL season with data (all statistical categories) through week 6 and then finally pick Super Bowl winner purely by numbers but that was way too ambitious, and i didn’t want to put that much time into it. It wouldn’t be right either because you can’t (at least to my knowledge) account for weather or injuries.

I really don’t like that sagrin guys numbers, I wanna know what his methods are. He kinda hides his data. Internet says he graduated from MIT so i won’t talk shit but I think using computers simulations would be much more effective than whatever the hell did.
Maybe after i finish my degree and I am unemployed as shit, ill take a crack at something like that, maybe even get my self into grad school with it :lol:


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: elax420]
    #19179888 - 11/23/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Whether you like them or not doesn't really matter. It's one of the ratings that goes into the BCS. And yes, he does the NFL. He does like everything. I can't really emphasize how popular and "important" Sagarin is and I find it really REALLY surprising that you are (seemingly) so involved in sports and discussing them and shit and haven't heard of the guy or his rankings. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just weird.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/sagarin/2013/team/

I'm pretty sure OSU would be the second or third best team in the SEC this year. The SEC just isn't deep. The only reason most of them are even ranked is because they are the SEC and get the benefit of the doubt. That whole "beating up on each other" thing only goes so far when it's clear a lot of the teams are not that strong on defense and shit. We'll see what happens during bowl season though.

I don't think Ohio State would make for a shittier bowl game than any other team.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
    #19179998 - 11/23/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Doesn't Ohio State shit the bed in most of the top bowl games it gets into?  I'm not talking about the Amana Bowl.  It seems like every time the play a team from a real not shithead conference called the Big Ten they get their ass handed to them.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19180058 - 11/23/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well, not really. That goes along with the same perception that I talked about earlier with them losing two national titles in a row, the second of which they didn't have any business being in. It's just that all of college football that year sucked (teams appearing in the BCS that year include Kansas, Hawaii, West Virginia, and Illinois).

Ohio State has the most BCS appearances at 9 and is tied for most BCS wins with USC at 6. Since the year before I went to college (so the 05-06 season) they are 2-3 along with a vacated win over Arkansas. The losses were to Florida, LSU, and Texas with wins over Oregon and Notre Dame. So in 7 years they made it to 6 BCS bowls and went even.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
    #19180398 - 11/23/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Whelp, ASU just knocked off UCLA on the road to clinch a Pac12 South title

Oregon lost today and Baylor is getting handled by oklahoma state early.. Things are looking a bit better for the Buckeyes


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
    #19180413 - 11/23/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What I can’t give a fucking opinion now? Jesus christ, seig heil mein fuher :facepalm:
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I wish one team in the Pac 12 south would step the fuck up. UCLA shot themselves in the foot so hard tonight. Their whole Oline needs to be put to pasture, what the fuck is up with giving up 9 sacks???? Bad pick 6, and two easy missed field goals. Its like I’m watching the fucking utes :feelingblue:


Hard fought win from the ASU side though and as much as it pains me to say, Go Sun Devils!



Arizona schools looking pretty fucking legit after today.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: elax420]
    #19180436 - 11/23/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Where did I say you couldn't give an opinion :wtf:

In fact I never even said "you're wrong" or "I'm right" and started both of those points with some kind of "I think" type statement.

If you're talking about my response to you about Sagarin, I'm simply saying whether you like them or not doesn't matter because you were calling into question his methods and saying you don't like the numbers. That's all well and good, I'm saying it doesn't matter because I didn't just post some random computer rankings but rather rankings that are used to determine the BCS rankings. It doesn't matter if you (or I) don't like them, they matter regardless. Computer rankings can obviously be called into question (except God's gift to statistics Ken Pomeroy).

You were saying FSU's schedule is so much better than Ohio State's, I'm simply pointing out that when it comes down to the BCS rankings it isn't.

But whatever, it doesn't even matter now. Baylor's going to lose in all likelihood.


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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
    #19180736 - 11/23/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh shit

Okie state crushed some fucking dreams tonight

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Re: College Football '13 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19181613 - 11/24/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

God damn florida is awful :ahahaha:

the last time this happened was michigan losing to app state right?

Muschamp is getting axed after this season lool


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