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#18772760 - 08/29/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is the day in which federal cannabis prohibition took massive steps to be ended in legal states, this is a FUCKING GLORIOUS DAY!!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/eric-holder-marijuana-washington-colorado-doj_n_3837034.html
"WASHINGTON -- The United States government took an historic step back from its long-running drug war on Thursday, when Attorney General Eric Holder informed the governors of Washington and Colorado that the Department of Justice would allow the states to create a regime that would regulate and implement the ballot initiatives that legalized the use of marijuana for adults.
A Justice Department official said that Holder told the governors in a joint phone call early Thursday afternoon that the department would take a "trust but verify approach" to the state laws. DOJ is reserving its right to file a preemption lawsuit at a later date, since the states' regulation of marijuana is illegal under the Controlled Substances Act.
Deputy Attorney General James Cole also issued a three-and-a-half page memo to U.S. attorneys across the country on Thursday outlining eight priorities for federal prosecutors enforcing marijuana laws. According to the guidance, DOJ will still prosecute individuals or entities to prevent:
the distribution of marijuana to minors; revenue from the sale of marijuana from going to criminal enterprises, gangs and cartels; the diversion of marijuana from states where it is legal under state law in some form to other states; state-authorized marijuana activity from being used as a cover or pretext for the trafficking of other illegal drugs or other illegal activity; violence and the use of firearms in the cultivation and distribution of marijuana drugged driving and the exacerbation of other adverse public health consequences associated with marijuana use; growing of marijuana on public lands and the attendant public safety and environmental dangers posed by marijuana production on public lands; preventing marijuana possession or use on federal property. The eight high-priority areas leave prosecutors bent on targeting marijuana businesses with a fair amount of leeway, especially the exception for "adverse public health consequences." And prosecutors have shown a willingness to aggressively interpret DOJ guidance in the past, as the many medical marijuana dispensary owners now behind bars can attest.
U.S. Attorneys will individually be responsible for interpreting the guidelines and how they apply to a case they intend to prosecute. A Justice Department official said, for example, that a U.S Attorney could go after marijuana distributors who used cartoon characters in their marketing because that could be interpreted as attempting to distribute marijuana to minors.
But the official stressed that the guidance was not optional, and that prosecutors would no longer be allowed to use the sheer volume of sales or the for-profit status of an operation as triggers for prosecution, though these factors could still affect their prosecutorial decisions.
The Obama administration has struggled with the legalization of medical marijuana in several states. Justice Department Officials had instructed federal prosecutors across the country not to focus federal resources on individuals who were complying with state laws regarding the use of medical marijuana. But the U.S. attorneys in several states that had legalized medical marijuana rebelled, and what was known as the Ogden memo faced stiff resistance from career prosecutors.
"That's just not what they do,” one former Justice official told HuffPost. “They prosecute people."
As a result of the internal pushback at DOJ, a new memo was issued by Deputy Attorney General James Cole in 2011 that gave U.S. attorneys more cover to go after medical marijuana distributors. Federal prosecutors began threatening local government officials with prosecution if they went forward with legislation regulating medical cannabis.
After recreational marijuana initiatives passed in Washington and Colorado in November, President Barack Obama said the federal government had “bigger fish to fry” and would not make going after marijuana users a priority.
Holder said back in December that the federal response to the passage of the state ballot measures would be coming “relatively soon.”
Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson told HuffPost his office was preparing for the “worst-case scenario” of a federal lawsuit against the law."
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: funkerdslr] 8
#18772793 - 08/29/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yet they still continue to harass legal dispensary operations.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Le_Canard]
#18772827 - 08/29/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said: Yet they still continue to harass legal dispensary operations.
I agree, they're a bunch of lying cunts that've raided my last 2 places of employment. But alas, the very fact they have something to say that isn't 100% negative is a huge step in the right direction.
I really believe this is another positive turning point in the long road to reformation, and im about as cynical as they come considering my lively hood
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#18772844 - 08/29/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#18772920 - 08/29/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE! I can believe that this day has finally came! Yay Hurray! FEEDOM IS HERE! Thank God! FREEDOM IS HERE!
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: funkerdslr] 1
#18773068 - 08/29/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just like they weren't going to go after legal medical dispensaries.
I'll believe the liar Holder when I see it thank you very much.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: funkerdslr]
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Definitely a step in the right direction atleast
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: lurkmode] 1
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it's too big to stop.... like seriously. they have to know by now, I'm sure they can do math
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: screamphilling]
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
#18773463 - 08/29/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The same Eric Holder whos boss once said the Justice Department wouldn't target dispensaries?
That Eric Holder?
PT Barnum was right. There is a sucker born every minute. Many of whom post here.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said: The same Eric Holder whos boss once said the Justice Department wouldn't target dispensaries?
That Eric Holder?
PT Barnum was right. There is a sucker born every minute. Many of whom post here.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
#18773549 - 08/29/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gilgamesh18 said: A man has a right to hope
Yup. I hope as well.
But Obama and Holder are both "less than honest".
The biggest lies.
1. I didn't do it. 2. The check's in the mail. 3. I won't cum in your mouth. 4. Whatever Obama and Holder say.
I mean really... who still believes those assholes?
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#18773665 - 08/29/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eric Holder never called off the raids on dispensaries. He made a statement that enforcing marijuana laws in states that have made it legal was "not a priority." This latest news is different. He sent a three page letter to all US attorneys instructing them on 8 guidelines for marijuana prosecution. He called the governors of Washington and Colorado and told them to go a head with their regulatory programs. I know him and Obama are lying scumbags but I am hoping for the best. The federal government has to listen eventually. More people in Colorado voted for legal marijuana than voted for Obama.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: overstand]
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: funkerdslr]
#18773832 - 08/29/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eventually it'll probably end up in federal court, and probably before the supreme court, and hopefully they'll recognize that it's the same as medical marijuana. It's going to be a real nail biter one day when some administration sues.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
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Gilgamesh18 said: A man has a right to hope
Yup. I hope as well.
But Obama and Holder are both "less than honest".
The biggest lies.
1. I didn't do it. 2. The check's in the mail. 3. I won't cum in your mouth. 4. Whatever Obama and Holder say.
I mean really... who still believes those assholes?
Your brutal realism is getting me down
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#18773869 - 08/29/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry, but after my many years of seeing politicians and government officials go back on their word, so many times, I no longer believe in what they say.
Q: How do you know when Obama or Holder are lying?
A: Their lips are moving.
(sorry, I know it's old, but it's accurate)
You keep hoping. I'll keep hoping. Just remember the old saying...
Of a handful of hope or a handful of shit, which weighs more?
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
#18773895 - 08/29/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: You keep hoping. I'll keep hoping. Just remember the old saying...
Of a handful of hope or a handful of shit, which weighs more?
Haha, I've actually never heard that before but I'm using it when appropriate from now on.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: funkerdslr] 2
#18773972 - 08/29/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldn't celebrate too soon. They have reserved their right to file a preemption lawsuit at a later date. This is actually a smart move. The Federal Government has no standing to sue right now, as the state laws have not been fully implemented, so their cause of action is not "ripe" and their lawsuit would be dismissed for failure to state a valid cause of action.
The US government is a two-faced lying bitch. Don't get your hopes up just yet...you are only setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Nature Boy] 2
#18774137 - 08/29/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: I wouldn't celebrate too soon. They have reserved their right to file a preemption lawsuit at a later date. This is actually a smart move. The Federal Government has no standing to sue right now, as the state laws have not been fully implemented, so their cause of action is not "ripe" and their lawsuit would be dismissed for failure to state a valid cause of action.
The US government is a two-faced lying bitch. Don't get your hopes up just yet...you are only setting yourself up for disappointment.
N.B.
Although you're probably right, this move by the government gives the cannabis industry and movement an opportunity to further establish itself and gain legs.
Its easy to be cynical about the government and speculate what they MIGHT do in the future. the way things are going though, nearly 25 states have medical laws, and your average joe's opinion on cannabis is changing VERY quickly.
Even slightly good news is amazing news, they could have easily come out today with the same stance they've maintained for the past 7 months: "We do not condone legalization, we will continue to prosecute" but instead are giving it a chance.
I honestly believe as more states see the feds mind their own business, you'll start to see more and more laws enacted. Eventually, they won't be able to prosecute the whole country.
Edited by funkerdslr (08/29/13 05:13 PM)
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: funkerdslr]
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A positive sign but as others have said, it means little. Pay no attention to what obama and his cronies say but watch closely what they do. He has lied constantly on this subject and it would be very premature to believe him now.
Maybe just maybe it will work out?
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Stonehenge]
#18774222 - 08/29/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep bitching about Obama luv. He's not going anywhere. Your cry, on the other hand is plentiful and sustains me.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: funkerdslr]
#18774497 - 08/29/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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funkerdslr said: Holder told the governors in a joint phone call
Seems appropriate.

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luvdemshrooms said:
The biggest lies.
1. I didn't do it. 2. The check's in the mail. 3. I won't cum in your mouth. 4. Whatever Obama and Holder say.
I mean really... who still believes those assholes?
5. Never been stepped on.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Toe_Jam]
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Now for the rest of the states to climb aboard the green shuttle
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Oeric McKenna]
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Since when did Eric Holder have any say in a law on the books in Washington and Colorado? And since when do we believe anything he says.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: lowbrow]
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True. Reality is a bitter shit sandwich that we all must eat one bite at a time. We can put what ever kind of condiments on it we want, but at the end of the day it's still the same shit.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Astrodelic]
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they have bigger fish to fry like WWIII
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: screamphilling]
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Scary^ that shit there. no joke
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Oeric McKenna]
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Hate to be "that guy" but this is just a distraction....
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: meatables]
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I don't like smoking weed very often but I still hope it will become legal even though I usually rarely see anything good coming from smoking everyday but I don't see anything good from smoking cigs everyday either
One destroys mind, one destroys body if used everyday
Use with moderation..
But it's good for freedom.....
Smoke, make your contribution, go a little early, but have fun until then..
Mail all your governors/politicians and inform people around you , and change your own way of interacting with people , that's how you can change culture Be political active
Drug laws are due to no acceptance in society We must accept others to reverse it, no judging Realize we are all the same...
I think this is a step in the right direction but laws don't change by politics, laws change due to society changing Change ourselves to change society
peace
btw I used to smoke up to 1/8th of the best stuff everyday (skunk or hash), but I quit
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: lessismore]
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Also my reason for smoking everyday was kidney stone pain that I had no pain pills for....
Cannabis helps a lot with that if you smoke enough, as much as morphine..!
Good for chronic pain patients... no side effects except munchies... all the pills I got had many many side effects and they were more addictive than weed everyday too when I stopped using them I got cramps, my heart beat weird/very slowly, my arms and legs started cramping at weird times, no energy so little I hardly could lay down due to it , felt like my heart stopping beating each time I took those pills (tramadol), couldn't speak or hear anything when I took them , could only lay down when I ate them, couldn't pee for a day each time I took them, everytime I layed down it felt like my heart stopping beating if I didn't move and would get cramps too (from a normal dose of tramadol 1-2 pills)
weed I could almost function normally on, morphine was a little better (didn't even know I had taken pills with that, function as normally - docs just wont prescribe it more than a few days in total)
but none of those side effects from weed, it was just expensive, like $25 a day for no pain vs $0.20 a day for tramadol
all side effects from weed were purely mental no panic attacks from weed, but I did get a mild panic attack from tramadol once but got much paranoia from weed , mostly due to society looking down on it and it being illegal (stood in the door looking out thought someone was at the door all the time lol) wouldn't walk directly home etc. due to paranoia
paranoia was temporary.. generally have no problems smoking as much weed as I want, paranoia,laziness & munchies are the only side effect for me (that's why I wouldn't use everyday except with careful moderation,unless I was a chronic pain patient)
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: lessismore]
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This seems like a step in the right direction.
I rarely smoke myself. But I look at the current trend, and with that statement by Holder made public. I think its a pretty big deal.
If the Feds are going to make a public statement that they are going to allow this social experiment to continue without persecution, then I fully expect it to grow bigger than they anticipate in short order.
California has already taken a shot at legalization. I expect Oregon to be on the same page. Maybe Arizona too. Thats a pretty big chunk of the West. Though I dont see Idaho, or Utah jumping on this opportunity, maybe Montana and Wyoming, maybe.
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Montana has waded into the medical pool a bit. Last summer I got the opportunity to smoke some Montana Medical and eat some stellar medical cookies and let me tell you, they're onto something. Wyoming is a mixed bag. There are plenty of tokers, but there are also a lot of "good ol' boy" cowboy types who would rather swill Keystone and whiskey than have anything to do with "that damn dope".
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Gilgamesh18
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#18776559 - 08/30/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Camwritesgonzo said: Montana has waded into the medical pool a bit. Last summer I got the opportunity to smoke some Montana Medical and eat some stellar medical cookies and let me tell you, they're onto something. Wyoming is a mixed bag. There are plenty of tokers, but there are also a lot of "good ol' boy" cowboy types who would rather swill Keystone and whiskey than have anything to do with "that damn dope".
yep Wyoming will most likely be one of the last to legalize along with texas.
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Re: Eric Holder Says DOJ Will Let Washington, Colorado Marijuana Laws Go Into Effect [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
#18776943 - 08/30/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think UT would be the last. With all the Mormons there, hell you can't even get real beer in that state.
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