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Offlinekhemfusion
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Lawn Mushroom ID Help
    #1877265 - 09/03/03 01:50 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Every year these big brown mushrooms fruit prolifically in my front lawn. The substrate is mossy grass.

The mushrooms have a strong smell to them, but I don't know how to describe it, they bruise reddish brown, the cap sort of 'rolls over' the gills. The picture includes a AA battery for size comparison, the mushrooms are very stocky



Found in Pacific Northwest BC


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: khemfusion]
    #1877284 - 09/03/03 01:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

They look like Paxillus involutus to me which also bruise reddish brown. I'm new so wait for a real id.


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: newAK]
    #1877534 - 09/03/03 03:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Another good ID. Given habitat though, I?m not too sure that?s what it is. Paxillus involutus tends to grow from wood. It?ll have a yellow-brown spore print if it is a Paxillus.

If I had to take a stab at the ID, I?d place it in the Lactarius genus. One test you can do to be sure it?s in the Lactarius genus is to slice the gills with a sharp knife. When the gills are cut, it will exude a milky substance. Mushrooms in the Lactarius genus tend to have a white to cream to light yellow colored spore print.

This is what will happen to the gills of a Lactarius mushroom when the gills are sliced:


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: Gumby]
    #1878172 - 09/03/03 06:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I sliced the gills on a fresh specimen and there was no milky excretions, where the gills meet the caps outer edge, it feels almost like a velvet fur... and bruises dark brown very quickly.

I really need to buy a good identification book for P. Northwest :laugh:

From another website, I do believe it is this mushroom:

~ Found west of the Rocky Mountains; gills light cinnamon becoming dark purplish red. (3/3)

Lactarius rubrilacteus

thanks for pointing me in the right direction!


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: khemfusion]
    #1878183 - 09/03/03 06:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

for a good field guide for the PNW, buy "Mushrooms Demystified" by Aurora.


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If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: khemfusion]
    #1878196 - 09/03/03 06:22 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If I was to guess I'd day it was something from the paxillus genus, but I'm pretty confident this species is not in my guide (not very surprising, as it's a dutch guide, there tend to be some differences between the States and Europe in the local species). It looks most like paxillus atrotomentosus, though the cap seems too dark for that species.

However, all paxillus species seem to prefer some woody substrate. Is there by any chance a lot of wood buried under your lawn; dead trees, woodchips?


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: khemfusion]
    #1878784 - 09/03/03 09:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

First off, those mushrooms are *not* Lactarius rubrilacteus. Since L. rubrilacteus is an edible species, you may have been inclined to try eating those mushrooms. DO NOT EAT. L. rubrilacteus is a close relative of L. deliciosus and is very similar in appearance.

Paxillus involutus is a possibility. If so, they will produce a brown spore print. If they are a Lactarius, they will have a white (or nearly white) spore print. If you haven't already, start making a spore print.

Paxillus involutus is a poisonous mushroom which has caused fatalities. It typically grows on the ground near aspen trees (and their relatives).

Let us know about the spore print.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1878815 - 09/03/03 09:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'll get a spore print up tommorow... in terms of buried wood, what I can think of, there was a HUGE willow tree that used to be in the front lawn, cut down when it was wrestling its roots into the city water system :laugh:

I never eat any of the mushrooms until they are actually 100% identified, I thought it might have been a Lactarius rubrilacteus because it was the only Lactarius species with similar colours. I didn't believe it was the paxillus because I forgot about the huge willow tree that was cut down over ten years ago.


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: khemfusion]
    #1880691 - 09/04/03 11:29 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Paxillus involutus is poisonous and potentially fatal, however, this is due to a culmative toxin, this mushroom is cond=sidered edibly in certain circles, many of which are non-sceintific, (more cultural)
the effects of this mushrooms poisoning are simmilar to leukemia and tends to result from repeditive chronic consumption.

so basically, this mushroom will give you blood cancer.
mmmmm.


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Re: Lawn Mushroom ID Help [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1899804 - 09/09/03 09:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I never got to print them, because just as I was going to pick some LARGE specimens, someone came along and mowed the lawn... :frown:
(Large == Larger than my large size 12 feet in hiking shoes, they were fairly impressive for a lawn mushroom, I would say almost two of my size 12 feet :laugh: )

I wonder how many more years these mushrooms will continue to grow up each fall, I notice that they are mostly coming up around the edges of the patch area, indicating that the mycellium network is probably getting lower down on its nutrients.

I also have a neat patch of fairy ring mushrooms growing near the hedge.


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