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Lingabhakt
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Bulk without a PC?
#18769833 - 08/28/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Namaste, I know: "Get a PC you cheap bastard". Well, I can't right now. Will when I can, but please don't give me the "cutting corners=cut results" rant. I get it, I really do, but it is what it is. So I wanna do a bulk grow spawned to either a monotub or a straw log, but the damn PCer is FUBAR & I wont be able to replace it anytime soon, so what are my spawn options? I was going to buy some spawn bags, but at the prices I seem to be finding them I might as well by a new PC. So work with me folks. Is the BRF PF tek my only option? & if so, what would be the best method (read: most successful) method to go from spore to spore, & what is the best substrate for PF cakes? Thanks Rudra
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blojo02184
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Brown rice flour, rye flour are the 2 things I've heard of for the tek. But I'm still fairly new.
You would want to spawn to coir/verm. You just need a large pot with a tight fitting lid.
I believe straw needs to be sterilized... Not 100%
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Shit I'm having trouble doing bulk WITH a PC. I got an 8qt presto from sears for 39.99, but it doesn't fit quart jars, only 5 pint jars
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Lingabhakt said: BRF PF tek my only option? & if so, what would be the best method
In short, Yes. Without a means to sterilize grain BRF PF is the method you would need. You could spawn to bulk, or fruit as cakes. The best method for the PF cakes is the one that works best for you. Most have a great time doing pf cakes and birth to dunk and roll. Cakes are soaked to properly hydrate, than rolled in vermiculite as a casing layer. There is a metric ton of info floating about the "Dunk and roll" tek/method.
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Technically you could steam grains but it would take something like 8+ hours I beleive. Other than that yea you're left with BRF.
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I'm going to agree with 
...and spawn bags don't get you out of buying a PC.
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Lingabhakt
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Thanks folks. I have done lots of PF cakes & enjoy them, but I want to try bulk before winter (I have too many reasons). I really like the Cup Of Shrooms tek from Critic, too. It's very exciting & quickly gratifying. But I gotta get some bulk in. I have never heard of milling rye to flower for PF cakes. Does ones have a foot above the other?
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If you want do do a bulk grow without a PC just spawn BRF cakes.
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blojo02184
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Re: Bulk without a PC? [Re: PussyFart]
#18770112 - 08/28/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Organic food stores carry it. Even hannafords. Maybe Wally world around it's flour section.
Don't know if it's better... But it's definitely my preferred grain.
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R4V4N4
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Why? you get the spawn bag pre sterilized, you get the grow bag pre sterilized. if you have the right amount of spawn to the right amount of subst8 then no fear of contams am I right?
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Lingabhakt said:Is the BRF PF tek my only option?
It's your only well established option. I remember years and years ago some TC said he'd steamed some couscous and used it for spawn with success. But you're way off the beaten path with that one, and very likely to fail. I bought a bunch of couscous recently to test it out, but then I got lazy.
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Re: Bulk without a PC? [Re: R4V4N4]
#18770832 - 08/28/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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R4V4N4 said: Why? you get the spawn bag pre sterilized, you get the grow bag pre sterilized. if you have the right amount of spawn to the right amount of subst8 then no fear of contams am I right?
I was thinking he meant empty spawn bags and filling them himself.
Pre-sterilized didn't even cross my mind
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R4V4N4 said: Why? you get the spawn bag pre sterilized, you get the grow bag pre sterilized. if you have the right amount of spawn to the right amount of subst8 then no fear of contams am I right?
I was thinking he meant empty spawn bags and filling them himself.
Pre-sterilized didn't even cross my mind 
Probably because if he can't afford a thrift store PC, he can't afford two quarts of pre-sterilized WBS.
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Lingabhakt said: Namaste, I know: "Get a PC you cheap bastard".
You answered your own question.
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kinkaku
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spawn bags are literally 40 to 65 cents a peice.....you cant afford that? ones spawn bag would probably fit in your pc other than that you can spawn brf cakes to bulk
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Re: Bulk without a PC? [Re: kinkaku]
#18771601 - 08/29/13 01:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Confusion on the boards. Pre sterilized grain does not mean no contams. it does mean you will have properly prepared grain and a sponsor to stand behind it. My vote is for BRF cakes to bulk. Ground rye grass seed has been used in cakes with great results also.
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Lingabhakt
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I lost alot recently & money is tighter than a Nun's quim. I live on a horse farm, so hpoo & straw are about as free as it gets. PrePCed spawn bags, such as these: http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/spawn-bags.html work great, but I dont use debt cards or have a bank account, so ordering them are a pain. I have been on the look out for a PC at my local thrift shops, but so far no luck. RR seems confidant enough in spawning to bulk with brf cakes, based of other posts & replies on other threads, so I know I know it can be done with a good degree of succrss.
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blojo02184
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Check with some tattoo shops also. sometimes they use it to sterilize their tools.
And your bulk grow list:(anyone add what I'm missing) Verm $5 Brf $2 Coir $2 Trays $1 Tub/tote $10
Assuming you have: Running water A large pot with a tight lid Sterile procedure SAB
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blojo02184 said: Verm $5 Brf $2 Coir $2 Trays $1 Tub/tote $10
I bought a PC off of CL for exactly 20$ once. Fits 4 quart jars. I would think if the OP lives on a farm 20$ is a minimal swing compared to the daily operation costs. If things really are 20$ tight I would think you should be eating ramen noodles and leaving your computer off to save electricity.
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Lingabhakt
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I live on a farm. I dont own it. I rent a room in the house & use my friend's wi-fi. & some days I don't eat at all. Thankfully I have lots of totes (I pretty much live out of them). Thank you to those who were helpful, & eat a dick to those who just wanna be dicks.
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