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As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse
    #18772270 - 08/29/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It seems to me we're switching out one for the other. Anyone else notice this?

How the war on terror is heating up:
-NSA
-Checkpoints near borders
-DHS
-TSA

How the war on drugs on waning:
-Medical marijuana in 20 states and the nation's capital
-States and cities with decriminalized marijuana
-Obama’s Drug Plan: Fewer Arrests, More Treatment: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/obamas-drug-plan-fewer-arrests-more-treatment/


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: BlackWidow]
    #18772293 - 08/29/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You're making connections where there are none. The DEA has nothing to do with the military. The "War" on drugs has no connections to real soldiers. Also, what makes you say the war on terror is getting worse? We've already eliminated a large number of members of terrorist groups.

(inb4 someone calls Obama the drone king - having soldiers on the ground is NO better and what the American public wanted was "our troops out of the middle east" - so that's what we got. No one cared about possible innocents being killed there until they realized it was something they could attack Obama about. Also less innocent civilians and children have been killed by drones during Obama's admin than in Bush's. Do some research! :oldman2:)


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 5
    #18772321 - 08/29/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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JoieDeVivre said:
You're making connections where there are none. The DEA has nothing to do with the military. The "War" on drugs has no connections to real soldiers. Also, what makes you say the war on terror is getting worse? We've already eliminated a large number of members of terrorist groups.

(inb4 someone calls Obama the drone king - having soldiers on the ground is NO better and what the American public wanted was "our troops out of the middle east" - so that's what we got. No one cared about possible innocents being killed there until they realized it was something they could attack Obama about. Also less innocent civilians and children have been killed by drones during Obama's admin than in Bush's. Do some research! :oldman2:)



I think you need to think about what you write. First, I said nothing about Obama, so I am not quite sure how you made that one up.

Second, I never said there was any connection between the DEA and the military.

You must have not gotten enough sleep last night. :lolsy:

Also, the War on Terror is definitely getting worse.


Edited by BlackWidow (08/29/13 10:10 AM)


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #18772324 - 08/29/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The real terrorism is on our own soil.


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: BlackWidow]
    #18772341 - 08/29/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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BlackWidow said:
I think you need to think about what you write. First, I said nothing about Obama, so I am not quite sure how you made them one up.

Second, I never said there was any connection between the DEA and the military.

You must have not gotten enough sleep last night. :lolsy:



Did you see that I said "inb4" and put it under a spoiler tag? Maybe you're not familiar with the internet but "inb4" means I anticipate someone will bring up that subject, so I addressed it before it was brought up.

You said we're switching the "war" on drugs in favor of the war on terror, which attempts to link the military and the DEA as if we're transitioning resources from a metaphorical "war" to an actual ground operation in another area of the world.

I got plenty of sleep, just because your attempt to draw a connection where there isn't one doesn't hold water doesn't mean that I need to think more about what I wrote. :lol:


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 2
    #18772388 - 08/29/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Op has a point joie.  And you're failing to grasp it.

the people who wage the war on drugs

are the same people which wage war with

other countries.

Op, it seems like we (the us) have to be having an altercation with someone to assert our alpha male dominance.  god forbid we leave anyone alone.


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: omegafaust]
    #18772407 - 08/29/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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omegafaust said:
Op, it seems like we (the us) have to be having an altercation with someone to assert our alpha male dominance.  god forbid we leave anyone alone.




do you have any sources for this? it seems like you're just making shit up


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: omegafaust]
    #18772412 - 08/29/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The people who wage the war on drugs are not the same people who wage war with other countries, that's a huge oversimplification that considers "the government" to be a huge umbrella of people all collaborating with each other when the truth is that the drug administration policy has very little to do with what is going on overseas.

I don't agree with everything we do in the middle east, but I hardly think that getting rid of people who genuinely make it their life goal to spread terror and harm other is an attempt to assert "alpha male dominance". Intervening in other countries to help people whose lives are being infringed upon daily is more of a caring role, IMO. I mean there are little girls who are shot in the head for trying to go to school over there, so I hardly think that getting rid of the people who do that is "alpha male" nor should we leave those people alone and continue to allow them to terrorize innocent civilians. That's just in theory though, the way we go about these things doesn't necessarily reflect that at all and our interest in the middle east is hardly humanitarian (plus there's the fact that a lot of the time our own soldiers are killing civilians too - which brings into question who is really the terrorist here, but the whole situation is incredibly complex of course).


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #18772419 - 08/29/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Drug abuse is terrorism on the home front!!!!








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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #18772449 - 08/29/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Again you seem to fail to grasp the concept. 

Toss aside your concept of justification, as it blinds you to thr fact that the united states are aggressive and have been since we first fought the british.

any facts to back that up?  Are you serious? 


COUNTRY OR STATE Dates of intervention Forces Comments

SOUTH DAKOTA 1890 (-?) Troops 300 Lakota Indians massacred at Wounded Knee.

ARGENTINA 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests protected.

CHILE 1891 Troops Marines clash with nationalist rebels.

HAITI 1891 Troops Black revolt on Navassa defeated.

IDAHO 1892 Troops Army suppresses silver miners' strike.

HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed.

CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed.

NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields.

CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops Marines land in Sino-Japanese War

KOREA 1894-96 Troops Marines kept in Seoul during war.

PANAMA 1895 Troops, naval Marines land in Colombian province.

NICARAGUA 1896 Troops Marines land in port of Corinto.

CHINA 1898-1900 Troops Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies.

PHILIPPINES 1898-1910 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos

CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still hold Navy base.

PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, occupation continues.

GUAM 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still use as base.

MINNESOTA 1898 (-?) Troops Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake.

NICARAGUA 1898 Troops Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur.

SAMOA 1899 (-?) Troops Battle over succession to throne.

NICARAGUA 1899 Troops Marines land at port of Bluefields.

IDAHO 1899-1901 Troops Army occupies Coeur d'Alene mining region.

OKLAHOMA 1901 Troops Army battles Creek Indian revolt.

PANAMA 1901-14 Naval, troops Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone; Opened canal 1914.

HONDURAS 1903 Troops Marines intervene in revolution.

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests protected in Revolution.

KOREA 1904-05 Troops Marines land in Russo-Japanese War.

CUBA 1906-09 Troops Marines land in democratic election.

NICARAGUA 1907 Troops "Dollar Diplomacy" protectorate set up.

HONDURAS 1907 Troops Marines land during war with Nicaragua

PANAMA 1908 Troops Marines intervene in election contest.

NICARAGUA 1910 Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto.

HONDURAS 1911 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.

CHINA 1911-41 Naval, troops Continuous occupation with flare-ups.

The list goes on and on man.  that's just some interference and only up until 1911.

CUBA 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.


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Edited by omegafaust (08/29/13 10:42 AM)


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: omegafaust]
    #18772466 - 08/29/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How the war on terror is heating up:
-NSA
-Checkpoints near borders
-DHS
-TSA

How the war on drugs on waning:
-Medical marijuana in 20 states and the nation's capital
-States and cities with decriminalized marijuana
-Obama’s Drug Plan: Fewer Arrests, More Treatment: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/obamas-drug-plan-fewer-arrests-more-treatment/


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #18772541 - 08/29/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

JoieDeVivre said:
The people who wage the war on drugs are not the same people who wage war with other countries).





SO what? No one is saying they are dropping bombs on drug users. Its a metaphorical statement and one
that is easy to grasp. OP has a point but not sure and they are probably not related but the status
quo is a system of control so its not surprising that when one part of the system starts to fail
another is made to become stronger.


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: BlackWidow]
    #18772546 - 08/29/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

BlackWidow said:
How the war on terror is heating up:
-NSA
-Checkpoints near borders
-DHS
-TSA

How the war on drugs on waning:
-Medical marijuana in 20 states and the nation's capital
-States and cities with decriminalized marijuana
-Obama’s Drug Plan: Fewer Arrests, More Treatment: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/obamas-drug-plan-fewer-arrests-more-treatment/



that story is almost a year and a half old....dispensaries in cali and washington are still getting raided by the DEA


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: trippinballs420]
    #18772597 - 08/29/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

trippinballs420 said:
Quote:

BlackWidow said:
How the war on terror is heating up:
-NSA
-Checkpoints near borders
-DHS
-TSA

How the war on drugs on waning:
-Medical marijuana in 20 states and the nation's capital
-States and cities with decriminalized marijuana
-Obama’s Drug Plan: Fewer Arrests, More Treatment: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/obamas-drug-plan-fewer-arrests-more-treatment/



that story is almost a year and a half old....dispensaries in cali and washington are still getting raided by the DEA



I believe Obama will start to engage in this new plan when his AHA is put into law. Is Obama behind the dispensary raids or is it Holder?


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: BlackWidow]
    #18772647 - 08/29/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

war on drug lil waynes


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Re: As the War on Drugs Wanes, the War On Terror Gets Worse [Re: NWlight]
    #18773004 - 08/29/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Most wanted in 2001
osama and other fellow saudi terrorist
most wanted in 2013
El chap guzma and other fellow drug cartels besides the shineola.


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