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Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized
    #18771460 - 08/29/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Source: http://www.complex.com/music/2013/08/zedd-tour-fan-dead

"Last night in Boston, EDM DJ/producer Zedd kicked off his North American "Moment Of Clarity tour at the House of Blues which ended in tragedy as one audience member died of an apparent overdose while two others were hospitalized for similar conditions.

According to the Boston Globe, the overdoses occurred around 1 a.m. in the morning. A female attendee was pronounced dead en route to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. Another female and male were transported there as well, and were listed in serious condition earlier today.

Jay Anderson, a spokesman for the House of Blues, released a statement today regarding incident. "Last evening, there were guests at our venue in need of medical treatment during the performance. They were assisted by Boston EMS as well as on-site emergency medical personnel and then transported to local medical facilities," he says. "One individual has unfortunately passed away and our thoughts go out to their family and friends for their loss. This matter is under investigation and we are continuing to work with local officials."

Zedd was scheduled for another show in Boston tonight, but that show has since been cancelled. The House of Blues will also shut down for an unknown period of time as a full investigation takes place. You can read Zedd's tweets on the incident below."

Hope there is a follow up article on this situation. I'd be interested to know what drug and if the person didn't actually OD, but instead dehydrated. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there have been very few, if any, deaths associated with empathogenic drugs that were solely caused by taking too much. Seems like most people just dose really high and don't drink/over drink water.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
    #18771487 - 08/29/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Zedd's dead, honey.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames] * 2
    #18771562 - 08/29/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That guy's fanbase seems to be dumb kids and people who sell bad drugs to dumb kids

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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Dorian Gray]
    #18771572 - 08/29/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Its sad and fucked, that everytime dies, all the surrounding people who did NOT die have to suffer.
In the name of "further death prevention" as they claim.
Ok...shut the club down, cancel the shows...ect.  why? why?

Bullshit logic. That's why.
People always want to punish someone about it or restrict everyone from doing whatever they feel caused it.

Here's the kicker: we have an overpopulation issue!
Legalize the things that make you die. Not the things that you do that make someone else die. That infringes on them.
Bungee jumps, crack, running in traffic.
Legalize all of it.
Most of its pretty fun too!

Lastly, who the hell is Zedd?

Mdma... yeah scary.... more people die annually from PEANUTS!


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #18771652 - 08/29/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I would say its a 99% chance that it wasn't MDMA even though that was probably what they were told they were being sold. Its a lot easier to OD on methylone than MDMA and methylone has more bad drug interactions. I've seen probably 30-40 people go into convulsions while over doing it on "molly" and "L" that were both imitations. You would be surprised how much street molly is actually methylone.

*and before anyone comments that is 30-40 people over the course of the past couple years at various music festivals, not all at once.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Smushroom]
    #18771658 - 08/29/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely a thing to consider. Peanuts still probably kill more people!

In your terms, what are the effects of methylone compared to mdma?
Is it more speedy?


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #18771674 - 08/29/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I can't say I have actually ever taken it myself. If I buy drugs at a show/festival I almost always test them. The handful of times I haven't tested them I can't say for sure what it was.

The one time I think I did actually take methylone it reminded me of when I would buy tablets in the early 2000s that were definitely mdma + caffeine/amphetamine/etc that were a bit more speedy but more than anything made the negative side effects more prominent.

Chemically speaking the only difference between mdma and methylone is an extra oxygen atom which changes it from an amphetamine to a cathinone.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Smushroom]
    #18771687 - 08/29/13 02:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds badass


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Dorian Gray]
    #18771922 - 08/29/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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That guy's fanbase seems to be dumb kids and people who sell bad drugs to dumb kids

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17318506/fpart/1/vc/1




Thats what I thought at first as well but after a quick google search it appears that Zedd and Zed's Dead are different djs.

Still shitty music, shitty scene.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: MentalMeltdown]
    #18771958 - 08/29/13 06:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I really don't know where you get those claims from about methylone:confused: My own experience with it has taught me how this is a valuable tool in and of itself, and definately has a much lighter body load then MDMA, and in general feels more gentle. I cannot disagree more about it being like MDMA mixed with a stimulant...just my two cents...

On topic, must have been an RC thingy, maybe MEX sold as ketamine?


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Dorian Gray]
    #18772118 - 08/29/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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That guy's fanbase seems to be dumb kids and people who sell bad drugs to dumb kids

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17318506/fpart/1/vc/1



Zed's Dead and Zedd are different artists.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18772286 - 08/29/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

it ain't a party until someone ends up on a stretcher

:rockon: :raver2:

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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
    #18772473 - 08/29/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I hope whoever sold this chick those bath salts ends up in either a box or a fucking prison cell.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: fapjack]
    #18772492 - 08/29/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I hope whoever sold this chick those bath salts ends up in either in a box or a fucking prison cell.




the butch in her prison block are gonna have fun with dis bitch :derfase:


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #18772506 - 08/29/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Definitely a thing to consider. Peanuts still probably kill more people!

In your terms, what are the effects of methylone compared to mdma?
Is it more speedy?



Methylone is a lot more speedy then MDMA IMO. I thinks its better at shows because it gives you more energy.

Once you do both of them a few different times you can tell the difference between the two in effects. IDK how many times people tell me they got MDMA and then are speeding around like there on meth.

I agree most street "molly" is actually Methylone.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: NWlight]
    #18772526 - 08/29/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There's nothing quite like getting double-fisted in the cornpipe by a bulldyke named Tommy in a prison cell. :twocents:


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18772530 - 08/29/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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There's nothing quite like getting double-fisted in the cornpipe by a bulldyke named Tommy in a prison cell. :twocents:





OMG you know tommmy?????


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: NWlight]
    #18772552 - 08/29/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Let me tell you, she can milk a prostate like no other. The only one that compares is Freddy... Wait for it.... and...:


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18772573 - 08/29/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18772575 - 08/29/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Its probably not methylone, there are a lot more analogues than that one that are still legal.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18772623 - 08/29/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Zedd's dead, honey.




No, this is Zedd not to be confused with zed's dead.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: searching]
    #18772633 - 08/29/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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Zedd's dead, honey.




No, this is Zedd not to be confused with zed's dead.



also the phrase is "zed's dead, baby" *epic bass drop*


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: NWlight]
    #18772665 - 08/29/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you wanna get even more technical about it it's "Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead." *Rev chopper, cue Twilight Zone theme*.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Misto]
    #18772865 - 08/29/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Oeric McKenna said:
Definitely a thing to consider. Peanuts still probably kill more people!

In your terms, what are the effects of methylone compared to mdma?
Is it more speedy?



Methylone is a lot more speedy then MDMA IMO. I thinks its better at shows because it gives you more energy.

Once you do both of them a few different times you can tell the difference between the two in effects. IDK how many times people tell me they got MDMA and then are speeding around like there on meth.

I agree most street "molly" is actually Methylone.




No doubt. MDMA is pretty damn speedy too!


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #18772881 - 08/29/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

{ & putting someone in prison over their death is as fucking stupid as fat people suing mcdonalds.
Blame game.
People listen up. Take responsibilities for your own actions & choices!

Its not the object. its not the gun. its not the drug. its not the dealer.
Its the individual. We need individual accountability. ONLY

Listen yo yourselves...... so if someone stabs their eye with a fork, we jail the fork manufacturer????
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Misto]
    #18772892 - 08/29/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I live on the east coast and have collected and sampled a decent amount of the molly. I kid you not, all of it except for one dudes stuff tested as methylone. I've never done mdma since its practically non existent where I live. I probably just don't know the right people, its a bummer. Although to be honest, I've enjoyed every experience I've had with methylone so far. It's definitely ridiculously speedy, I pretty much can't stop bobbing my head for a good 2.5 hours. I can't wait to finally get my hands on some real mdma, I wanna be able to experience the difference. I hope its as obvious as people say.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
    #18774478 - 08/29/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't say its that obvious at all. At low to normal doses they are very similar with methylone perhaps being a bit more speedy (IMO) but I have also seen people react to pure molly in a similar way the first few times they take it. I think that has more to do with the "holy shit this is awesome" awe phase of first discovering it. Both release similar amounts of serotonin and dopamine in the brain.

What I've seen with most MDMA look alikes is that the problems start in medium to higher doses. Back in my true partying days I could do a large amount of mdma over the course of a night and be perfectly fine, a little tweaked out but nothing too bad. I believe most if not all look alikes have lower LD50 doses as well as lower threshold doses to induce tachycardia and in come cases seizures.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
    #18774495 - 08/29/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I live on the east coast and have collected and sampled a decent amount of the molly. I kid you not, all of it except for one dudes stuff tested as methylone. I've never done mdma since its practically non existent where I live. I probably just don't know the right people, its a bummer. Although to be honest, I've enjoyed every experience I've had with methylone so far. It's definitely ridiculously speedy, I pretty much can't stop bobbing my head for a good 2.5 hours. I can't wait to finally get my hands on some real mdma, I wanna be able to experience the difference. I hope its as obvious as people say.




Most of it probably isn't methylone, there are soooo many cheaper more legal cathinone analogues.  For some reason people use methylone as another generic term for bath salts when in reality its a bunch of different compounds.  You can't tell if something is methylone or not with a marquis...


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: fapjack]
    #18774670 - 08/29/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Methylone feels like molly on the come up.  But that's just it you just keep feeling like you are coming up and never hit your peak.  Because of that many people have a tendency to think that they need more.  They take more and still only come up.  Eventually they take to much and OD.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
    #18774817 - 08/29/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I live on the east coast and have collected and sampled a decent amount of the molly. I kid you not, all of it except for one dudes stuff tested as methylone. I've never done mdma since its practically non existent where I live. I probably just don't know the right people, its a bummer. Although to be honest, I've enjoyed every experience I've had with methylone so far. It's definitely ridiculously speedy, I pretty much can't stop bobbing my head for a good 2.5 hours. I can't wait to finally get my hands on some real mdma, I wanna be able to experience the difference. I hope its as obvious as people say.





I live on the West Coast and have never had anything sold to me as Molly that wasn't a hundred percent bomb-ass molly.  Head west!


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: afrogus]
    #18775168 - 08/29/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Methylone is bk-MDMA right? My experience has been that its very similar to MDMA but you just need more of it...like .5 of methylone = about .15 of MDMA


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: fapjack]
    #18775774 - 08/30/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have a marquis reagent as well as the simon's reagent kit, which does allow you to confirm that what you have is methylone. If the marquis turns yellow and then you test it again with simons and it turns blue, it means it is methylone, which I've done with all of my samples. Also, not to be rude, but methylone is not a generic term for bath salts. Bath salts is a ridiculously vague and generic term used for any rc sold in the form of bath salts, methylone being one rc that is commonly sold as bath salts, most of which are cathinones (mephedrone, mdpv, etc)


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames] * 1
    #18776141 - 08/30/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

afrogus: have you actually tested everything you have gotten with various reagents? You can't rely solely on taking it. One reasoning is that the midwest and east coast tend to import from Europe more and the west coast tends to import from east Asia more. Safrole is a byproduct of camphor production in eastern Asia and thus makes it easier to use that as a precursor.

fapjack: You are right in that methylone has become more generic of a term to refer to most cathinones that show yellow on the marquis and have similar effects to mdma. It is one of the easier ones to synth and until recently was legal in most places so it was the most prevalent, that could be changing.

OJ: methylone, butylone, and methedrone (not mephedrone) all show as yellow with marquis and blue with simon's. Simon's just test if it is a secondary amine or not and various chems fall into that category. While I do believe most street molly is methylone still it could be a variety of things that all test the same. Would require gc/ms testing to know for sure.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: afrogus]
    #18777891 - 08/30/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I live on the West Coast and have never had anything sold to me as Molly that wasn't a hundred percent bomb-ass molly.  Head west!




While I have never got anything not MDMA either, those pill reports online don't look good anywhere in any region. Pressed pills seem to be almost all fake, almost everywhere. I only use powder as you can at least taste it. Even then could be PMA and that's death. Could be a lot of things including PMA that killed this person. Nbomes, GHB, heroin, pills, bath salts, cough syrup etc. Drinking doesn't mix as well with a lot of drugs as people think either.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18778033 - 08/30/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How does alcohol react with methylone?

I've done some pressed pills that I thought were mdma/coke/caffine. They were really speedy and could have been methylone in hindsight.

I drank about 30 beers that night and the alcohol never got me shitfaced. Everytime I do MDMA i can drink like a beast, is methylone like that as well?


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Oldgregg]
    #18778370 - 08/30/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Methylone is bk-MDMA right? My experience has been that its very similar to MDMA but you just need more of it...like .5 of methylone = about .15 of MDMA



You must have been getting some REALLY shitty methylone if that's the case.  You need MAYBE 50mg more.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: MentalMeltdown]
    #18780289 - 08/31/13 04:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

methylone is a stimulant so in terms of behavior with alcohol it behaves the same way and negates alcohol's effects. While I do mix alcohol and adderall myself it is a pretty bad practice to mix alcohol with other diurectics since it puts you at risk for dehydration (even without all night dancing).


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Smushroom]
    #18780386 - 08/31/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I figured that. Cool man, thanks for replying.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: MentalMeltdown]
    #18780468 - 08/31/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It was probably piperazine, or something like that.. A girlfriend and I almost died taking that shit. And we only took one! Very scary experience.


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Smushroom]
    #18780909 - 08/31/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How is mixing adderall with alcohol? I very much like methylone but I don't wanna be dosing that stuff more than 2 or 3 times a year. I have plenty of adderall and so I was thinking I'd drink and take that at certain shows instead of rolling. Is it worth it? I've heard from a few people that the come down can be quite bad


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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
    #18783037 - 08/31/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have absolutely no issues with the comedown from any stimulants so I can't really comment on the comedown being bad.

I never take adderall to get high or get that semi-rolling feeling. I only use it to stay awake. My alcohol tolerance is pretty low now since I barely ever get drunk anymore. If I plan on going out all night drinking with friends I'll take 5-7.5mg of adderall before I go out. Allows me to drink and feel buzzed without ever really getting too drunk.


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