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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18772623 - 08/29/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: Zedd's dead, honey.
No, this is Zedd not to be confused with zed's dead.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: searching]
#18772633 - 08/29/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: Zedd's dead, honey.
No, this is Zedd not to be confused with zed's dead.
also the phrase is "zed's dead, baby" *epic bass drop*
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: NWlight]
#18772665 - 08/29/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you wanna get even more technical about it it's "Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead." *Rev chopper, cue Twilight Zone theme*.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Misto]
#18772865 - 08/29/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oeric McKenna said: Definitely a thing to consider. Peanuts still probably kill more people!
In your terms, what are the effects of methylone compared to mdma? Is it more speedy?
Methylone is a lot more speedy then MDMA IMO. I thinks its better at shows because it gives you more energy.
Once you do both of them a few different times you can tell the difference between the two in effects. IDK how many times people tell me they got MDMA and then are speeding around like there on meth.
I agree most street "molly" is actually Methylone.
No doubt. MDMA is pretty damn speedy too!
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18772881 - 08/29/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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{ & putting someone in prison over their death is as fucking stupid as fat people suing mcdonalds. Blame game. People listen up. Take responsibilities for your own actions & choices!
Its not the object. its not the gun. its not the drug. its not the dealer. Its the individual. We need individual accountability. ONLY
Listen yo yourselves...... so if someone stabs their eye with a fork, we jail the fork manufacturer???? That's such bs
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Misto]
#18772892 - 08/29/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I live on the east coast and have collected and sampled a decent amount of the molly. I kid you not, all of it except for one dudes stuff tested as methylone. I've never done mdma since its practically non existent where I live. I probably just don't know the right people, its a bummer. Although to be honest, I've enjoyed every experience I've had with methylone so far. It's definitely ridiculously speedy, I pretty much can't stop bobbing my head for a good 2.5 hours. I can't wait to finally get my hands on some real mdma, I wanna be able to experience the difference. I hope its as obvious as people say.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
#18774478 - 08/29/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say its that obvious at all. At low to normal doses they are very similar with methylone perhaps being a bit more speedy (IMO) but I have also seen people react to pure molly in a similar way the first few times they take it. I think that has more to do with the "holy shit this is awesome" awe phase of first discovering it. Both release similar amounts of serotonin and dopamine in the brain.
What I've seen with most MDMA look alikes is that the problems start in medium to higher doses. Back in my true partying days I could do a large amount of mdma over the course of a night and be perfectly fine, a little tweaked out but nothing too bad. I believe most if not all look alikes have lower LD50 doses as well as lower threshold doses to induce tachycardia and in come cases seizures.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
#18774495 - 08/29/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OliverJames said: I live on the east coast and have collected and sampled a decent amount of the molly. I kid you not, all of it except for one dudes stuff tested as methylone. I've never done mdma since its practically non existent where I live. I probably just don't know the right people, its a bummer. Although to be honest, I've enjoyed every experience I've had with methylone so far. It's definitely ridiculously speedy, I pretty much can't stop bobbing my head for a good 2.5 hours. I can't wait to finally get my hands on some real mdma, I wanna be able to experience the difference. I hope its as obvious as people say.
Most of it probably isn't methylone, there are soooo many cheaper more legal cathinone analogues. For some reason people use methylone as another generic term for bath salts when in reality its a bunch of different compounds. You can't tell if something is methylone or not with a marquis...
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: fapjack]
#18774670 - 08/29/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Methylone feels like molly on the come up. But that's just it you just keep feeling like you are coming up and never hit your peak. Because of that many people have a tendency to think that they need more. They take more and still only come up. Eventually they take to much and OD.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames]
#18774817 - 08/29/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OliverJames said: I live on the east coast and have collected and sampled a decent amount of the molly. I kid you not, all of it except for one dudes stuff tested as methylone. I've never done mdma since its practically non existent where I live. I probably just don't know the right people, its a bummer. Although to be honest, I've enjoyed every experience I've had with methylone so far. It's definitely ridiculously speedy, I pretty much can't stop bobbing my head for a good 2.5 hours. I can't wait to finally get my hands on some real mdma, I wanna be able to experience the difference. I hope its as obvious as people say.
I live on the West Coast and have never had anything sold to me as Molly that wasn't a hundred percent bomb-ass molly. Head west!
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: afrogus]
#18775168 - 08/29/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Methylone is bk-MDMA right? My experience has been that its very similar to MDMA but you just need more of it...like .5 of methylone = about .15 of MDMA
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: fapjack]
#18775774 - 08/30/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a marquis reagent as well as the simon's reagent kit, which does allow you to confirm that what you have is methylone. If the marquis turns yellow and then you test it again with simons and it turns blue, it means it is methylone, which I've done with all of my samples. Also, not to be rude, but methylone is not a generic term for bath salts. Bath salts is a ridiculously vague and generic term used for any rc sold in the form of bath salts, methylone being one rc that is commonly sold as bath salts, most of which are cathinones (mephedrone, mdpv, etc)
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: OliverJames] 1
#18776141 - 08/30/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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afrogus: have you actually tested everything you have gotten with various reagents? You can't rely solely on taking it. One reasoning is that the midwest and east coast tend to import from Europe more and the west coast tends to import from east Asia more. Safrole is a byproduct of camphor production in eastern Asia and thus makes it easier to use that as a precursor.
fapjack: You are right in that methylone has become more generic of a term to refer to most cathinones that show yellow on the marquis and have similar effects to mdma. It is one of the easier ones to synth and until recently was legal in most places so it was the most prevalent, that could be changing.
OJ: methylone, butylone, and methedrone (not mephedrone) all show as yellow with marquis and blue with simon's. Simon's just test if it is a secondary amine or not and various chems fall into that category. While I do believe most street molly is methylone still it could be a variety of things that all test the same. Would require gc/ms testing to know for sure.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: afrogus]
#18777891 - 08/30/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I live on the West Coast and have never had anything sold to me as Molly that wasn't a hundred percent bomb-ass molly. Head west!
While I have never got anything not MDMA either, those pill reports online don't look good anywhere in any region. Pressed pills seem to be almost all fake, almost everywhere. I only use powder as you can at least taste it. Even then could be PMA and that's death. Could be a lot of things including PMA that killed this person. Nbomes, GHB, heroin, pills, bath salts, cough syrup etc. Drinking doesn't mix as well with a lot of drugs as people think either. These are the days of the test kit or you risk your life. I wouldn't take a pill without one.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: my3rdeye]
#18778033 - 08/30/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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How does alcohol react with methylone?
I've done some pressed pills that I thought were mdma/coke/caffine. They were really speedy and could have been methylone in hindsight.
I drank about 30 beers that night and the alcohol never got me shitfaced. Everytime I do MDMA i can drink like a beast, is methylone like that as well?
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Oldgregg]
#18778370 - 08/30/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oldgregg said: Methylone is bk-MDMA right? My experience has been that its very similar to MDMA but you just need more of it...like .5 of methylone = about .15 of MDMA
You must have been getting some REALLY shitty methylone if that's the case. You need MAYBE 50mg more.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: MentalMeltdown]
#18780289 - 08/31/13 04:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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methylone is a stimulant so in terms of behavior with alcohol it behaves the same way and negates alcohol's effects. While I do mix alcohol and adderall myself it is a pretty bad practice to mix alcohol with other diurectics since it puts you at risk for dehydration (even without all night dancing).
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Smushroom]
#18780386 - 08/31/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I figured that. Cool man, thanks for replying.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: MentalMeltdown]
#18780468 - 08/31/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It was probably piperazine, or something like that.. A girlfriend and I almost died taking that shit. And we only took one! Very scary experience.
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Re: Zedd's Show in Boston Last Night Ends With One Dead, Two Hospitalized [Re: Smushroom]
#18780909 - 08/31/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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How is mixing adderall with alcohol? I very much like methylone but I don't wanna be dosing that stuff more than 2 or 3 times a year. I have plenty of adderall and so I was thinking I'd drink and take that at certain shows instead of rolling. Is it worth it? I've heard from a few people that the come down can be quite bad
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