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More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive'
#18769862 - 08/28/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://rt.com/usa/new-jersey-atheist-plate-124/
More fuckery from New Jersey. Christ why do I live in this state? First the texting thing that vinsue posted, now this shit. Seriously, read this. What the mother fuck NJ?
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The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission has rejected an application for a personalized license plate that says “ATHE1ST” – even though the word is not on the state’s list of offensive and prohibited terms.
New Jersey resident David Silverman, president of the group American Atheists, was willing to pay for a personalized license plate that reflects his views on religion. In the state of New Jersey, it costs $50 to acquire a customized license plate. But the MVC rejected his application, claiming that the word “atheist” is offensive, Silverman tweeted after the incident.
Earlier this year, the New Jersey Star-Ledger published the list of words that the MVC refuses to print on license plates. But the list, which has a total of 1,085 words and is dated Nov. 26, 2012, does not include the word atheist.
MVC spokesman Mike Horan told the paper that personalized license plate applications are evaluated on a case-by-case basis, especially since new slang words are continuously arising.
“The language is ever evolving,” Horan said. “Slang terms and things that might have been pretty innocuous years ago, now might actually have a meaning at this point in time.”
But the word atheist is neither new, nor slang – and versions of it can be found on license plates in other US states, such as the Midwestern state of Minnesota, where 81 percent of the population is affiliated with a Christian religion. Furthermore, New Jersey has printed customized license plates such as “1M2SEXY,” “CLIMAXX,” “IAMGOD,” and “BIOCH,” which could be considered more offensive than “ATHE1ST,” the American Atheists wrote on its website.
The MVC has previously also approved the license plate “ATHEIST,” which varies from Silverman’s application because it contains an “I” instead of a “1”. That license plate his since been retired.
Silverman’s group, the American Atheists, has fought to uphold the civil liberties of non-religious believers since it was established in 1963. The non-profit advocates for the separation of church and state and has won numerous court cases and lawsuits. Silverman has filed an appeal with the MVC, but if his application is rejected a second time, it is possible that the American Atheists will take legal action, given the organization’s track record.
The case closely mirrors several other instances in which registered car owners have been denied the right to have non-religious terms printed on their license plates.
In 2010, North Dakota radio host Brian Magee applied for a license plate that reads “Is No God”, which reflects his non-religious views. Magee, who hosts a show called Amplified Atheist, applied for the customized license plate in response to seeing plates that read, “I love God” and “Praise God.”
But North Dakota Driver and Vehicle Services rejected the anti-religious license plate, claiming that it was offensive, WDAY-TV reported. After the media caught wind of the story and Magee appealed the decision, DOT Director Francis Ziegler allowed the radio host to obtain the atheist plate.
A similar case occurred in Florida in the year 2002. Gainesville resident Steven Miles had a personalized license plate that said “ATHEIST”, but unspecified complaints prompted the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to declare the tag “obscene or objectionable” and ordered the man to give it up. Miles called the American Civil Liberties Union for help, and the DMV eventually decided to let him keep it.
“This is about freedom of speech and freedom of conscience,” Ellen Johnson, a former president of American Atheists, told the St. Petersburg Times at the time.
In his appeal to New Jersey’s MVC, Silverman notes that 15 percent of New Jersey citizens consider themselves atheists, which makes them the third-largest religious demographic in the state. The term is also used to describe non-religious war heroes at the Arlington National Cemetery, which Silverman considers further evidence that the term is not offensive.
“’Religious Freedom’ includes the ability to decline religion; ‘Free Speech’ means we can speak our minds, even when we say things with which others disagree,” Silverman wrote in his appeal. “The First Amendment guarantees both of these rights, which I proudly defend for a living.”
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Gumby]
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Sheekle] 2
#18769890 - 08/28/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: memes] 2
#18769897 - 08/28/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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meams how come u changed ur name to memes
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Sheekle] 1
#18769959 - 08/28/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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New Jersey  Might as well be Florida.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Dark_Star]
#18770165 - 08/28/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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its how you get street cred for a presidential campaign.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Sheekle]
#18770194 - 08/28/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: meams how come u changed ur name to memes
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Gumby]
#18771033 - 08/28/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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They reject all sorts of shit for vanity plates, its the DMV. I can give you 10,000 things I hate about NJ politics and this would miss the list by a million miles. Also the person that is bitching about this sounds as big of a douche as the Christian that would complain about the same thing if they wanted to put Jesus on their license plate. If this is the most pissed you've ever been at the DMV you haven't lived here long enough. Those pricks made me take my hat off for my license picture, was going to argue about it but decided it wasn't worth fighting over. They are assholes and nothing will change that.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: fapjack] 1
#18771145 - 08/28/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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fapjack said: Those pricks made me take my hat off for my license picture, was going to argue about it but decided it wasn't worth fighting over.
It's actually quite rude to wear a hat indoors unless it's a formal occasion and you're a female wearing a formal hat. I know you're probably bald, but there's no shame in that. Just take your hat off like a gentleman while indoors.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Capers]
#18771149 - 08/28/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappateer said: It's actually quite rude to wear a hat indoors unless it's a formal occasion and you're a female wearing a formal hat. I know you're probably bald, but there's no shame in that. Just take your hat off like a gentleman while indoors.
social norms can't fill your belly.
leave them at the door
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: memes] 1
#18771163 - 08/28/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, social norms are the glue that hold our society together. You don't wear a bathing suit to the post office, you don't wear a bathrobe to the grocery store and you don't wear a hat indoors. It's called manners.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Capers]
#18771176 - 08/28/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I see nothing wrong with all three of those tings.
Outdated tings
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: twighead]
#18771198 - 08/28/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you in college? I hate how kids in lecture halls prop their feet up on the seat in front of them. It's really sloppy and rude.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Capers]
#18771224 - 08/28/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Naw I'm out of school, & I agree the feet thing is annoying in most cases - I just don't see any problem dressing how you'd like in most situations - as long as its not a particularly distasteful display. Hats aren't doing anything to me
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: twighead]
#18771241 - 08/28/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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To me, hats are an outdoor accessory and wearing them inside is a subtle way of saying "I don't want to be here. I'm not comfortable and I don't intend to get comfortable. I don't care about respecting traditional social norms either".
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Capers]
#18771248 - 08/28/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My brother studied in New Jersey. He told me it's full of Satanists.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 1
#18771271 - 08/28/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Satanism for the win!
I have some discreet satanic poke n' sticks.
If you ever need help moving, though, call me, I can never turn down friends in need.
I just like the satanic imagery as a dichotomy to religion. Plus you get to stand in pentagrams naked burning candles (while you take a day off every two months to pay for a baby sitter 
It's like Universalist Unitarians, except fuck the bullshit and party.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Capers]
#18773540 - 08/29/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappateer said: To me, hats are an outdoor accessory and wearing them inside is a subtle way of saying "I don't want to be here. I'm not comfortable and I don't intend to get comfortable. I don't care about respecting traditional social norms either".
Oh my god are you outdated as fuck.
I didnt come back into this thread yesterday - but i sure wish i would have. I can't believe how much you care about what other people are doing. If i were around you, I'd push your buttons just to get a rise - because people like you are h.i.l.a.r.i.o.u.s.
grow up
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Capers]
#18773558 - 08/29/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappateer said:
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fapjack said: Those pricks made me take my hat off for my license picture, was going to argue about it but decided it wasn't worth fighting over.
It's actually quite rude to wear a hat indoors unless it's a formal occasion and you're a female wearing a formal hat. I know you're probably bald, but there's no shame in that. Just take your hat off like a gentleman while indoors.
Why is it rude? I've never been able to understand this one, my hat is an important piece of clothing. Should I take my shoes and belt off too? I'll take my hat off at the dinner table where I am a guest to show them respect, but the DMV can suck my dick. Also, I have very long hair and am not balding.
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Re: More New Jersey bullshit: New Jersey bans ‘ATHEIST’ vanity plate, calls it 'offensive' [Re: Capers]
#18773573 - 08/29/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappateer said: No, social norms are the glue that hold our society together. You don't wear a bathing suit to the post office, you don't wear a bathrobe to the grocery store and you don't wear a hat indoors. It's called manners.
No, social norms are the things people like me voluntarily abide by to keep people like you from killing themselves out of frustration with our otherwise dissimilar choices.
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