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Rose
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#18771944 - 08/29/13 06:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think we see eye to eye but live in different time zones. It is past my bed time. My best posts of the day are behind me.
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: Rose]
#18771950 - 08/29/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You are awfully correct with this assumption. It's around 2 o'clock in the afternoon here.
Safe dream travels to you.
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#18771959 - 08/29/13 06:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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2 AM here. Night!
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: Rose]
#18772022 - 08/29/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Curious OP... How often did you trip?
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One think I found out lately... Do you remember being a kid, and if you layed down on the grass or anywhere and stared up into the blue sky you could see little silver flakes floating around? Well I was doing some heavy concentrating the other day while I had lots of time to day dream and I found out that they were just the flight paths or tracers from bugs!
I noticed that I couldnt see any silver flakes at all, until I observed a fly or mosquito or any flying insect fly by, then after it had left if I concentrated hard enough I could still see these little flakes. And I found by keeping my concentration I could get the blue sky pretty dance like haha Coolest thing is though, I first found this out while I was 8 or 9, and have finally put it into context!
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: crkhd]
#18772207 - 08/29/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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crkhd said: It's not HPPD. It's THE Trip.
Reality is The Trip. It's fluid. Psychedelics bring it out.
The walls are always breathing. You breathe out, the air molecules hit off the walls. They breathe.
If you are a programmer, send data codes to the visual matrix and it WILL respond. This is the essence of Self-inquiry meditation and I understand now how Ram Dass & Co could drop acid and be on his merry way.
Thats deep, i like that
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: sailing]
#18772213 - 08/29/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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A mind expanded cannot go back to it's original dimensions.
Don't consider it a curse... you essentially opened your signal receiver to new sensory inputs. If you don't focus on it and cease psychedelic use things will calm down in time.
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: windowlikcer]
#18772504 - 08/29/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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windowlikcer said: It is somewhat frustrating that there are experiences like this being had by so many people yet there is no real place for it in our society. No vocabulary, no knowledge, no answers. Yet at the same time, on a much deeper level, I am not concerned with answers because answers would be as empty as every other mental event.
There IS no vocabulary for it, not directly (though Sanskrit comes close), but there is plenty of knowledge about it. There are no "answers," that's just a fool's game. 
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18772672 - 08/29/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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windowlikcer said: It is somewhat frustrating that there are experiences like this being had by so many people yet there is no real place for it in our society. No vocabulary, no knowledge, no answers. Yet at the same time, on a much deeper level, I am not concerned with answers because answers would be as empty as every other mental event.
There IS no vocabulary for it, not directly (though Sanskrit comes close), but there is plenty of knowledge about it. There are no "answers," that's just a fool's game. 
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I disagree respectfully. I've always got a pretty solid answer on psychedelics. "just be". As you are. No playing games with who or what you should be. Just exist. Of course you have to look at the larger perspective of psychedelic experiences and not pick out little specific revelations, but rather the common theme that they all have. Just my experience though. Some people definitely read in too deeply so I get what you're saying
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Searching for answers gets you nowhere, but asking questions is very helpful. May not have said that quite right, 3 days without enough sleep and I'm somewhat narco at this point. 
"Just experience" isn't an answer, it's an instruction. 
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18773119 - 08/29/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Searching for answers gets you nowhere, but asking questions is very helpful. May not have said that quite right, 3 days without enough sleep and I'm somewhat narco at this point. 
"Just experience" isn't an answer, it's an instruction. 
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This is true, but in my head it is also the answer to happy and mentally healthy living. I do get what you are saying though good sir. It's not so much what the drug teaches you but rather what the experience does. Understanding that at fundamental levels you are capable of coexisting with diverse beings. That when you fight life you are only making things worse etc. I guess those things aren't unique to psychedelics though. They just amplify the impact it has
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I personally enjoy mild HPPD.
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This is true, but in my head it is also the answer to happy and mentally healthy living. I do get what you are saying though good sir. It's not so much what the drug teaches you but rather what the experience does. Understanding that at fundamental levels you are capable of coexisting with diverse beings. That when you fight life you are only making things worse etc. I guess those things aren't unique to psychedelics though. They just amplify the impact it has
I think we're talking about two different things here. Some people (not saying you or the OP does, just some people) really ARE looking for answers, like "why are we here?" "what is the purpose of everything?" and they aren't gonna get answers like that.
What you're talking about is a method not an answer. It's the same with meditation - which actually doesn't cause HPPD - it doesn't answer your questions it shows you why the questions are pointless.
But that's all a dead horse for me and I can't explain it to anybody anymore - you just have to go there for yourself and stop thinking.
I suspect that's enough for today.
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18773358 - 08/29/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i feel like psychedelics made me more sensitive to stimuli but i guess im starting to learn how to handle it and integrate it
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: mr sniffles]
#18773399 - 08/29/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's one of the great permanent side effects, IME. Colors, sounds, almost all senses get that treatment. 
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18773485 - 08/29/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is true, but in my head it is also the answer to happy and mentally healthy living. I do get what you are saying though good sir. It's not so much what the drug teaches you but rather what the experience does. Understanding that at fundamental levels you are capable of coexisting with diverse beings. That when you fight life you are only making things worse etc. I guess those things aren't unique to psychedelics though. They just amplify the impact it has
I think we're talking about two different things here. Some people (not saying you or the OP does, just some people) really ARE looking for answers, like "why are we here?" "what is the purpose of everything?" and they aren't gonna get answers like that.
What you're talking about is a method not an answer. It's the same with meditation - which actually doesn't cause HPPD - it doesn't answer your questions it shows you why the questions are pointless.
But that's all a dead horse for me and I can't explain it to anybody anymore - you just have to go there for yourself and stop thinking.
I suspect that's enough for today.
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Ah I gotcha. That makes sense. It's not the word of god condensed to a chemical messenger. Totally agree
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wow. you should probably dial back a bit and let reality settle down before you dose again.
doing psycadelics is fun and insightful and can be helpful. but as with everything, abuse can lead down a dark road.
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: crkhd]
#18773900 - 08/29/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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crkhd said: It's not HPPD. It's THE Trip.
Reality is The Trip. It's fluid. Psychedelics bring it out.
The walls are always breathing. You breathe out, the air molecules hit off the walls. They breathe.
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: HostDisorder]
#18774089 - 08/29/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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One way of exerting magical control over Reality is to use mandala visualisation. When you visualise a Mandala and behold it right in your imagination crystal clear and fully seen as vivid and solid as what's in front of you, you can program your body at will and activate/talk to any organ and do anything, let the imagination exploration run wild and see what abilities you can *create*, yes, *create* because by the application of directed thought we create intricate systems of imagination and power and manifestation: martial arts controlling bioelectricity, science creating technology, all sorts.
We as a species have the magical power of imagination and manifestation and the supreme beauty of the human form is that we are literally whooping stuff out of our asses and it is springing forth into reality and from there onwards develops a sensible and permanently abiding framework. Suddenly, phones, the internet, and all manner of things.
Wait till you see what the future beholds, EEG is the future! We can invent senses willy nilly, entire brand new senses of Reality. Soon we will be able to sense in the entire EM frequency band using EEG/neurofeedback technology.
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Re: Now, 24/7, even when I'm sober, [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18774197 - 08/29/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Yeah, that's one of the great permanent side effects, IME. Colors, sounds, almost all senses get that treatment. 
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lol in some cases of doing your own thing sometimes youre not asking to be a satellite dish for everything thats being thrown around though, thats my only complaint
but the bright side is you get to develop your brain to absorb more information effeciently i guess
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