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Re: My College reminds me of Highscool [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18770242 - 08/28/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm referring to how much what you view on the internet affects you. My sister and some people I work with are prime examples of it. They're random for the sake of being random, and 'different', without actually achieving what they set out for, while believing they do. They're being fed a different set of media than 5 years ago, lapping up a different set of trends than was being spewed 5 years ago.

I agree with your maturity gap, but like everything involving people, it depends on the person.



I don't think that has much to do with the internet.  They just sound young.  I did random stupid shit when I was 13-14 too.




Yeah, random stupid shit. Not shit fed to them to make them think it's random stupid shit. I work with an 18 year old girl who reminds me of my 15 year old sister (just turned 15) in every. single. way. They react to things similarly, like the same shit, think the same way, reject the same things, yet each considers themselves an individual. Guess what? Neither of them watch more than a few hours of TV a day, yet spend all their time on the internet. I wonder what influences their actions?

I don't blame internet as the culprit (ok I did before, but after thinking about it more), but any media source. I guess it's human nature to ascribe to a particular one, whether it be internet games and shows made for teenagers or forums, or whatever else it may be.

So you're definitely right about the maturity factor. I'm sorry if I took away from that before, that was wrong of me. But the internet is definitely another factor in this.


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Re: My College reminds me of Highscool [Re: balanced]
    #18770254 - 08/28/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think we will see a MUCH bigger impact of the internet on the generation of kids who are 6-7 now.  They have had high-speed internet, tablets, and smartphones their entire lives.  I'm interested to see if they're much different.


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Re: My College reminds me of Highscool [Re: Magicman69]
    #18770274 - 08/28/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm guess I'm referring to there maturity level and general vibes.




I understand.
The general vibes at my university today sucked. Everyone walking around still clutching to their high-school swag. Fuck, its annoying. Being in an environment surrounded by people who (I admit, only from looks and the over-hearing of conversations) seem to be 100 % absorbed in their looks and and personas, certainly doesn't help facilitate a mindset needed to do well in school. I now remember why I couldn't stand college when I first started.

And to make it worse, as a result of the immature attitudes of the students (some, not all) professors seem to view their classes as a whole as one giant fuck-up.

I do much better when the relationship the teacher has with the class is such that, from the students' point of view, it seems as if the teacher doesn't degrade you at all. When a teacher makes it seems as if the students are just as much of an adult as (s)he, then it works out real well. For both parties would realize that one of them is trying to share knowledge while the other is perfectly capable of receiving it.

...But shit, when a professor has to tell you a story from the semester before of a student looking at porn during class (and thus go on to lecture about proper lap-top use), you--as a student--feel 'below' the level of 'adulthood' then the professor. And the transfer of knowledge doesn't work so well because its as if the professor has to spin his lessons in a way that works with immature fools.


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Re: My College reminds me of Highscool [Re: balanced]
    #18770281 - 08/28/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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balanced said:
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pwnasaurus said:
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balanced said:
I'm referring to how much what you view on the internet affects you. My sister and some people I work with are prime examples of it. They're random for the sake of being random, and 'different', without actually achieving what they set out for, while believing they do. They're being fed a different set of media than 5 years ago, lapping up a different set of trends than was being spewed 5 years ago.

I agree with your maturity gap, but like everything involving people, it depends on the person.



I don't think that has much to do with the internet.  They just sound young.  I did random stupid shit when I was 13-14 too.




Yeah, random stupid shit. Not shit fed to them to make them think it's random stupid shit. I work with an 18 year old girl who reminds me of my 15 year old sister (just turned 15) in every. single. way. They react to things similarly, like the same shit, think the same way, reject the same things, yet each considers themselves an individual. Guess what? Neither of them watch more than a few hours of TV a day, yet spend all their time on the internet. I wonder what influences their actions?

I don't blame internet as the culprit (ok I did before, but after thinking about it more), but any media source. I guess it's human nature to ascribe to a particular one, whether it be internet games and shows made for teenagers or forums, or whatever else it may be.

So you're definitely right about the maturity factor. I'm sorry if I took away from that before, that was wrong of me. But the internet is definitely another factor in this.



Just because they don't watch TV or go on the internet doesn't mean their peers don't. And they are influences by their peers


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Re: My College reminds me of Highscool [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18770306 - 08/28/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think you're right about that. Hopefully they're more open minded and willing to research things for themselves.

Although I don't think our educational system will adapt quickly enough, and this generation won't put as much stock in information verification as is necessary with such an information overload. Then there's restrictions (which I think should be assigned by the parents [and not to mention the many parents who don't know how to effectively parent]).

We may die off in just enough time to not see humanity destroy itself hahahaha

Hey Mule, think how the Professor will feel when they find out that their class isn't solely comprised of careless students going through the motions? Ask questions, be involved.. it will give your Professor a reason to be motivated.

Put yourself in their shoes. Dealing with countless students who are taking the class because they have to, whether for a graduation requirement or because their parents are forcing them (or any other number of reasons). Someone who, in the beginning, wanted to educate likeminded individuals and was dealt a harsh realistic blow. One motivated student may be enough to make their semester, as well as yours!

Magicman: how much do their peers affect them? How do they group themselves? I know in HS, I hung out with people who had similar interests to me. At least in my own high school, it was the same. Even through college. Yes, peers are influential - but only the ones who matter to the individual.


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Re: My College reminds me of Highscool [Re: balanced]
    #18770409 - 08/28/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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balanced said:
I think you're right about that. Hopefully they're more open minded and willing to research things for themselves.

Although I don't think our educational system will adapt quickly enough, and this generation won't put as much stock in information verification as is necessary with such an information overload. Then there's restrictions (which I think should be assigned by the parents [and not to mention the many parents who don't know how to effectively parent]).

We may die off in just enough time to not see humanity destroy itself hahahaha

Hey Mule, think how the Professor will feel when they find out that their class isn't solely comprised of careless students going through the motions? Ask questions, be involved.. it will give your Professor a reason to be motivated.

Put yourself in their shoes. Dealing with countless students who are taking the class because they have to, whether for a graduation requirement or because their parents are forcing them (or any other number of reasons). Someone who, in the beginning, wanted to educate likeminded individuals and was dealt a harsh realistic blow. One motivated student may be enough to make their semester, as well as yours!

Magicman: how much do their peers affect them? How do they group themselves? I know in HS, I hung out with people who had similar interests to me. At least in my own high school, it was the same. Even through college. Yes, peers are influential - but only the ones who matter to the individual.




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