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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked] * 4
    #18769749 - 08/28/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Theres a huge difference between killing in war and creating concentration camps. America has its fair share of killing people in war but The Nazis killed to try and create an Aryan race. They killed simply to weed undiserables out. Also Nazi scientist experimented very horrifically on people of all ages babies, kids, old people etc. and it wasn't just blood tests or anything they would starve people to death while they watched along with tons of other horrific acts. Also Nazi Germany killed over 6million jews and 12million others in a span of 5 years,it took them just 5 years to do that. If the Nazis won WW2 want to bet the death toll would be in the 100's of millions by now. This whole thread is just :facepalm:.You think you have it so fucking bad go live in Syria for few months then bitch about the U.S.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #18769757 - 08/28/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Theres a huge difference between killing in war and creating concentration camps. America has its fair share of killing people in war but The Nazis killed to try and create an Aryan race. They killed simply to weed undiserables out. Also Nazi scientist experimented very horrifically on people of all ages babies, kids, old people etc. and it wasn't just blood tests or anything they would starve people to death while they watched along with tons of other horrific acts. Also Nazi Germany killed over 6million jews and 12million others in a span of 5 years,it took them just 5 years to do that. If the Nazis won WW2 want to bet the death toll would be in the 100's of millions by now. This whole thread is just :facepalm:.You think you have it so fucking bad go live in Syria for few months then bitch about the U.S.




Some people are just ignorant, and they're always going to believe what they're going to believe, no matter how retarded it is. I just ignore them because there's like a billion of them out there. But anyway, good post.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18769794 - 08/28/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes:



I respect your intelligence dude




Why would you do that?  Please provide an example that supports your contention.  Thanks in advance.



he obviously has a lot of scientific know-how. stupid people don't handle biochemistry well. thought I will admit that my opinion of his intelligence has steadily declined over the course of the last year. I never used to see posts like this from him




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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18769872 - 08/28/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think this is a fairly scandalous comparison to make, DH. You've said some crazy shit throughout the years but this might just take the cake... assuming you haven't said it before. :smirk:

Seriously though, it's very difficult to directly rebut any of your parallels, but the Nazis made their home at depths to which we have yet to sink. Institutional racism and the general repression of minority groups is very real in this country, but to compare it to the Holocaust is a bit immoderate. I might even say hysterical. This kind of absurd bombast is irresponsible; it aids and abets conservatives who would like to pretend institutional racism doesn't exist at all.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18769888 - 08/28/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Institutional racism and the general repression of minority groups is very real in this country,




Do you mean East Asians?  Most minority groups in this country are institutionally favored.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18769943 - 08/28/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

IME it really depends on where you are in the country. I've had experience with public education in both the San Francisco area and in East Tennessee. As a white kid, my education was not prioritized in the San Francisco area. I also couldn't help but notice that all the kids in the gifted programs were minorities. However, in East Tennessee, I got on the school paper even though I got a D in English, and every single kid on that paper was white. I wouldn't be surprised if this situation was typical for areas which are less diverse than the SF area. I could obviously be wrong about this. And the statistics regarding arrests and convictions of blacks compared to whites also support the idea that the majority-white government (whether intentionally or simply by accident) could be operating in a way that is patently racist.

IMO institutional racism is certainly real, but it's up for debate as to whether it's intentional or not and who, exactly, is guilty. I think it might be an unfortunate fact of humanity that, in general, we instinctively favor people who share our skin color. That doesn't mean we can't do better.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #18769961 - 08/28/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Affirmative Action is institutional racism.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18769963 - 08/28/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Of course America is the only one to blame, good thing OP is not a citizen of a country that blindly panders along and joins our every war...
I know you wouldn't be part of a country that's committed genocides, taken place in world domination, forced drug wars, and devastating colonialism in the past would you?

Oh wait,

You're in the UK

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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18769984 - 08/28/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Affirmative Action is institutional racism.




If it's based on race, I agree. :shrug: I'm a little more in favor of affirmative action based on factors such as economic background, however.

I don't see how racism is solved with more racism. It's always liberal areas that emphasize race-based affirmative action, liberal areas which have more diversity in their community than most of the country. In other words, they shouldn't need it much, because the capacity of a single majority to oppress small minorities is more limited. So they're basically creating little enclaves of anti-white hostility as if that will somehow "level the playing field" in a country that is geographically dominated by whites. :failboat:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18770010 - 08/28/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Affirmative Action is institutional racism.




If it's based on race, I agree. :shrug: I'm a little more in favor of affirmative action based on factors such as economic background, however.

I don't see how racism is solved with more racism. It's always liberal areas that emphasize race-based affirmative action, liberal areas which have more diversity in their community than most of the country. In other words, they shouldn't need it much, because the capacity of a single majority to oppress small minorities is more limited. So they're basically creating little enclaves of anti-white hostility as if that will somehow "level the playing field" in a country that is geographically dominated by whites. :failboat:




I'm getting sick and tired of that word, "diversity".  Also "affordability", "fairness" and "economic justice" as they are being perverted by the mental midgets and losers these days.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18770038 - 08/28/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Eh, I do enjoy diversity. Sometimes I'm attracted to the notion of living in an area where I'll be more favored on the basis of my skin color, but honestly I think it would drive me nuts.

And the fact remains that affordability is the reason why affirmative action fails so badly-- it's popular in liberal areas, which generally have a higher cost of living, so their efforts are effectively worthless to the mass of economically disadvantaged minorities in this country who might legitimately benefit from a fairer shake.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 7
    #18770092 - 08/28/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Nazis had concentration camps, the US have Guantanamo Bay





:justnotright:


You need a history lesson. Guantanamo bay is like a banana republic prison ran by America, but the Nazi concentration camps were nothing short of Hell on Earth.

You really cant compare that.

You need to read some firsthand accounts of what it was like.

Please, read THIS even if you think you know what it was like, just read what this man has gone through in his year of serving as a Sonderkommando inmate-worker in the death camp of Treblinka.
Read it, read more, people may not forget.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18770122 - 08/28/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Eh, I do enjoy diversity. Sometimes I'm attracted to the notion of living in an area where I'll be more favored on the basis of my skin color, but honestly I think it would drive me nuts.




Me too but I don't think it should be imposed or even a particular goal. 
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And the fact remains that affordability is the reason why affirmative action fails so badly-- it's popular in liberal areas, which generally have a higher cost of living, so their efforts are effectively worthless to the mass of economically disadvantaged minorities in this country who might legitimately benefit from a fairer shake.




"Affordable" is utterly meaningless.  If someone makes a half mil a year and someone makes 25K a year, "affordable" has vastly different meanings to them, doesn't it?  Friday we are getting a new X5.  Steven Michel Paradise is not.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Asante]
    #18770148 - 08/28/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Nazis had concentration camps, the US have Guantanamo Bay





:justnotright:


You need a history lesson. Guantanamo bay is like a banana republic prison ran by America, but the Nazi concentration camps were nothing short of Hell on Earth.

You really cant compare that.

You need to read some firsthand accounts of what it was like.






Lmfao!! Who said that? OP?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 2
    #18770302 - 08/28/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The Nazi regime was a party that took power, committed horrible atrocities, but was subsequently wiped off the face of the earth (by the USA).

It's not a fair comparison because the parts of Germany that made it 'worse' are now basically gone but the parts of America that made it bad have been able to survive up until present day.

It's like comparing a deranged 10 year old who dies at a young age to a really old man who likes to do unethical shit sometimes.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: g00ru]
    #18770314 - 08/28/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It's like comparing a deranged 10 year old who dies at a young age to a really old man who likes to do unethical shit sometimes.




Nicely put.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18770377 - 08/28/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It tends to happen when he does the amphetamines.


I can't lie, I had my suspicions. I become a cocksure, self-righteous, indignant asshole under the influence of amphetamines and/or opiates as well


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18770416 - 08/28/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I love how everyone just keeps referring back to his horrible analogy of the concentration camps vs guantanamo bay

...there were quite a few other similarities that I think ring true :shrug:

Classic deflection techniques by the ignorant though

Definition of ignorant: "Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular"

Not trying to be insulting.

I do think he was quite aggressive towards people who didn't agree, which wasn't cool.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked]
    #18770518 - 08/28/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It is a pretty outrageous claim. The Nazis' institution of a network of death camps throughout Europe for any given minority is not comparable to Guantanamo Bay.

OP is full of arguments like that, comparisons which appear salient from a theoretical perspective but quickly wither under any serious comparison. I was going to take it on point-by-point but it's so ridiculous and full of bluster that an equitable response would be far, far too kind.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #18770549 - 08/28/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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