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Porcini?
    #18769611 - 08/28/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)





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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18769704 - 08/28/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Porcini (or boletes) don't have gills

Just guessing.... Looks like a Coprinus sp. or a young Pluteus sp. maybe


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Re: Porcini? [Re: HarryL]
    #18769719 - 08/28/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanx for the info I will note that. I found these on the same tree I found silverish pluteus day before. Maybe I shouldnt have picked them yet :frown: I appreciate the help! :smile:


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18772015 - 08/29/13 07:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

pluteus...not only do porcinis have pores, but they also have red-brown caps


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Re: Porcini? [Re: Woombleshamba]
    #18772103 - 08/29/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

And they don't grow on trees or wood, and are considerably bigger.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: Untitled]
    #18772587 - 08/29/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

TY giys! :smile: I really appreciate the info. I found some porcini couple days ago growing off a hardwood stump. at least they were Ided as that. Maybe they were something different I dunno. Im a noob so maybe i shouldnt guess right away lol. I heard porcini are good in omeletes.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18772594 - 08/29/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Porcini do not grow off of wood... 

Did you take the edible parts of the hen of the woods?  It's considered medicinal.  I haven't seen any, but guess the best practice is to trim off the tender parts and leave the rest to regen...


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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18772931 - 08/29/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I did take the hen of the woods yes :smile: I however couldnt find my knife so I left a fe small ones intact. I read a little on the medicinal effects. They have invisible cancer fighting properties?  TY again guys:) Heres a pic.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18772944 - 08/29/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Are all of the parts of those tender?


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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18772949 - 08/29/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yes did I make a mistake? were they too young? I read its a fall shroom.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18772958 - 08/29/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Naw, I was just thinkin' that is a shit load of fungus if it's all usable.  ;-)  What a score to come across it when it's prime.  I seem to stumble upon stuff just a day or two late.  Have you tried it yet?  Drying?  Freezing?


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"Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats."

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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18772963 - 08/29/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

actually I just went and picked them up. I was thinking of cleaning them then freezing or drying. which do you think would be better? Its my first one. TY for the compliment. I find stuff too late sometimes too then I find a different specimen thats young and mistake it for something else lol. I read online these are going for$21.00 a pound some places!!!


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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18772982 - 08/29/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe dry half and freeze half?  That takes the pressure off of space to dry a bit and gets half of it out of your hair quickly.  If you had a foodsaver/sealameal that'd be awesome.  Just regular old baggies don't give much freezer protection.  I wonder if anyone's used freezer paper like the butcher does.

Try them and let us know!

Oh - you'll want to saute them maybe a bit lightly before you freeze.  If you don't cook them too hard then when you add more heat to prepare they won't be overcooked.  I'd say be generous with your oil/butter.  If you had a crapload of onions/garlic/herbs to dispose of might be good to throw in seasonings...


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"Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats."

"The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."


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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18772993 - 08/29/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

thanx for the info fry day! I will get on tha and report back. where should I store them for now until I get back from my mushroom hunt? I brought them home and set them in my drying room but thinking fridgerator would be good but fear all the bugs. maybe just a dry cool place for now?


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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18773023 - 08/29/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Maybe dry half and freeze half?  That takes the pressure off of space to dry a bit and gets half of it out of your hair quickly.  If you had a foodsaver/sealameal that'd be awesome.  Just regular old baggies don't give much freezer protection.  I wonder if anyone's used freezer paper like the butcher does.

Try them and let us know!

Oh - you'll want to saute them maybe a bit lightly before you freeze.  If you don't cook them too hard then when you add more heat to prepare they won't be overcooked.  I'd say be generous with your oil/butter.  If you had a crapload of onions/garlic/herbs to dispose of might be good to throw in seasonings...



ok I will sautee them in minced garlic slightly before freezing half. Great info I really appreciate it fry day!


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Re: Porcini? *DELETED* [Re: xfsketch]
    #18773029 - 08/29/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Porcini? *DELETED* [Re: xfsketch]
    #18773064 - 08/29/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18773108 - 08/29/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Are they near any buildings that could have been used for some enterprise?  I would haul some home, use it to boost your laundry detergent.  I love using found stuff.

On the maitake - if you haven't got frig room then cool and dark is probably best.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18774376 - 08/29/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I did take the hen of the woods yes :smile: I however couldnt find my knife so I left a fe small ones intact. I read a little on the medicinal effects. They have invisible cancer fighting properties?  TY again guys:) Heres a pic.





I am not seeing Hen of the woods, something doesn't look right. I am not familiar with Ohio's temps right now, but I would figure it is to warm still.

This just doesn't look like any Hens I have found, almost look more like chickens.

Maybe Berkeley's Polypore, or Meripilus sumstinei? I am guessing here, and would make sure prior to eating. Any pics of them in the ground?


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Re: Porcini? [Re: NGH]
    #18774500 - 08/29/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate your concern NGH :smile: here are some more pics of it while Im cleaning it maybe that will help :wink:

stem pieces


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18774515 - 08/29/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

pic of them in ground. 


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18774644 - 08/29/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Meripilus sumstinei sounds better to me, although that's still technically edible if you don't mind chewing leather.  Did it blacken at all with age?  The reaction can be pretty slow.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #18774671 - 08/29/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I noticed parts of it were blackened I cut them off. It seemed that it wasnt very leathery except the stem parts. It smelled really good and mushroomy. I will look up the info you provided TY :wink:


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18774711 - 08/29/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18774716 - 08/29/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think you may be right that its the blackened polypor. I havent seen any lavender which is common on hen of the woods. maybe this is a rooster of the woods.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18774739 - 08/29/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I found this link where someone tried them here on shroomery said they are impossible to chew lol. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18606277


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18774745 - 08/29/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It doesnt look the same to me though but Im no professional. I saw no black aside from on the edges where it was really dirty. I could be wrong though :frown:


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18776028 - 08/30/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, crap, thought a ti had verified this.

Be a shame if they weren't.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18776088 - 08/30/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's a meripilus species alright. Certainly not grifola frondosa.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18776143 - 08/30/13 05:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh, crap, thought a ti had verified this.

Be a shame if they weren't.



Now they have. You can rest now.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: Untitled]
    #18776237 - 08/30/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So its a Meripilus sumstinei? Still edible. I thought I found my first hen:grin: TY guys! :smile:


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18776356 - 08/30/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't link to that thread! That's where everyone can see me mis-identifying! :goat: There goes my streak..


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    #18776895 - 08/30/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Im sorry should I delete? Or are you joking?


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18777732 - 08/30/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Reputed to taste like liver, I find it to taste like steak, with a similar texture, especially seasoned with flavorings traditionally used with steak.




I knew that sketch put a lot of effort into prepping these for the table, hence the regrets, but apparently no need for that.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: fry day]
    #18778106 - 08/30/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thanx fry day :smile: Im not mad or anything. I appreciate all of the help. I figured just in case it was a good edible I would prepare it up like we had talked about before. I dont regret cleaning the mushrooms. was a lot of work but I had nothing else to do lol. TY again for your time. I will eventually find a hen of the woods hopefully this fall. I may try a piece of this even if its a black staining polypor. they say its like chewing on leather. but its still edible. Im not starving so I will be alright just preserving the mushrooms we think are safe to possibly eat.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18778249 - 08/30/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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thanx fry day :smile: Im not mad or anything. I appreciate all of the help. I figured just in case it was a good edible I would prepare it up like we had talked about before. I dont regret cleaning the mushrooms. was a lot of work but I had nothing else to do lol. TY again for your time. I will eventually find a hen of the woods hopefully this fall. I may try a piece of this even if its a black staining polypor. they say its like chewing on leather. but its still edible. Im not starving so I will be alright just preserving the mushrooms we think are safe to possibly eat.




Maybe if it was cooked at a higher heat less time, it would stay tender. Did a TI ever identify it? If it is edible, and you try it, let us know what it taste like.

Hens are great tasting, I found a big one last year when I was hunting, but never grabbed it. They seem to like the cooler weather.

Have you hunted for chantrelles? They are quite tasty too.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: NGH]
    #18778297 - 08/30/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

TY NGH :smile: I didnt try any yet. I believe it was IDed as a black staining polypor for the most part but I dont know for sure. Mixed replies has me uncertain. Maybe Im not reading it right. Both are considered edible so I will try some of the ones I sauteed and froze sometime next week. I will report back;) Im thinking like u said and others said the hens like colder weather so its more then likely a black staining. I have found a bunch of smooth chanterelles this year but didnt eat any of them:( I will try some next time I find them prolly next year because I havent seen any more, I heard they are quite good too. I ate chicken of the woods and giant puffball and enjoyed them;)


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Re: Porcini? [Re: xfsketch]
    #18778838 - 08/30/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Im sorry should I delete? Or are you joking?




Yeah I was just joking.  :facepalm3: Apologies for the misidentification.


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Re: Porcini? [Re: serratedlips]
    #18778867 - 08/30/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lol had to make sure. Dint want to offend.:mushroom2:


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