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permafrying
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cuttings pot size
#18761084 - 08/26/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i just recieved some san pedro cuttings today im letting them callus up and reading up on cacti info. i cant seem to find an answer on what size pot i should be using though theres allot of varied info i know i dont want it to big but big enough to support em. the cuttings are roughly 8" tall
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1234go


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I'm new with cactus, but i'd say 6 in diameter would be good. Probably no bigger though, don't want too much excess room.
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permafrying
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: 1234go]
#18761694 - 08/26/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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awesome thanks for the help. cant wait to get em planted theyre already a little dried out but i know i got awhile to wait. planning on just using potting soil and perlite because of financial limitations at the moment
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For slow growing cacti you want a pot to be a nice snug fit but for Trich's like yours you want big pots. I am a firm believer the bigger the better. Most of the pots that I use are between 30 to 50 cm. The only limitations that I lot of people have is if you need to move them around a lot. I do have a number in what I would consider small pot for the size of the plant but I just used what I had at the time but the wont be in them for much longer
One way to look at it is would you plant a tree that is going to grow to 5+ meters in a small pot. 
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: GoOnThen]
#18762499 - 08/27/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would plant it in a small pot for a year or 2, to make some roots fast, and then i would get i big pot to make it huge!! Bat i think, its better to use small pot when you root it, just becouse you can water it more times and the roots will grow faster.
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: gopener]
#18762703 - 08/27/13 06:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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These were all were new cuttings ( no roots ) They are still in the same pots and the slowest growers are all in the smallest pots. 

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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: GoOnThen]
#18762728 - 08/27/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GoOnThen said: These were all were new cuttings ( no roots ) They are still in the same pots and the slowest growers are all in the smallest pots. 

Cheers Got
I saw your gallery earlier today!You have a big and gorgeous garden!!
I am noob on growing cacti, as it seems i was wrong.
I was thinking, if you can water more times you can get faster growth, so smaller pots can give you much lesser time to dry out the soil. I am aware that bigger pots can give you bigger roots, bat when you put a small cacti in a big pot isnt going to waist time waiting the soil to dry out?
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: gopener]
#18762780 - 08/27/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks mate. There are a lot of people that grow in smallish pots because of there climate and living conditions but that is not to say you should. In this game there is really not a right or wrong way of doing things as we all have our own ways. So you just take in every thing that you can and use that info the best way that it suits you.
The climate that you grow in and the mix that you use has a lot to do with how much water you can give them. Mine get water every second day during the peak of summer and the least amount they get is twice a week. They are outside all year round and during winter they get a fair amount of rain. I have never had a Trich rot outside. The Trich's in the photos all had plenty of roots growing out of the bottom of the pots when I moved them. I believe if you can plant a cutting straight in the ground then you can plant in a big pot.
Cheers Got
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: GoOnThen]
#18762797 - 08/27/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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gopener said: I was thinking, if you can water more times you can get faster growth, so smaller pots can give you much lesser time to dry out the soil. I am aware that bigger pots can give you bigger roots, bat when you put a small cacti in a big pot isnt going to waist time waiting the soil to dry out?
This is good in practice especially for tap rooted plants. But if they dry too quick, your cacti will miss a chance to drink. Different species have different response speeds to moisture and sending out new feeder roots, and tolerances vary for how long they can sit wet.
Trichs (and others) have fairly lateral growing roots, they cover a wide surface area, then they can draw up a lot of moisture, before it drains away (also open ground drains differently to a pot).
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: GoOnThen]
#18762803 - 08/27/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GoOnThen said: Thanks mate. There are a lot of people that grow in smallish pots because of there climate and living conditions but that is not to say you should. In this game there is really not a right or wrong way of doing things as we all have our own ways. So you just take in every thing that you can and use that info the best way that it suits you.
The climate that you grow in and the mix that you use has a lot to do with how much water you can give them. Mine get water every second day during the peak of summer and the least amount they get is twice a week. They are outside all year round and during winter they get a fair amount of rain. I have never had a Trich rot outside. The Trich's in the photos all had plenty of roots growing out of the bottom of the pots when I moved them. I believe if you can plant a cutting straight in the ground then you can plant in a big pot.
Cheers Got

Yes soil mix is the first thing when it comes to drainage! Mine, they have to wait 6-7 days the hottest month (10 hardiness zone). Now i will see the new mix (i bet will drain much quicker) how it will go, i had plant the new cacti 10 days before, so in a couple of days i will know.
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gopener said: I was thinking, if you can water more times you can get faster growth, so smaller pots can give you much lesser time to dry out the soil. I am aware that bigger pots can give you bigger roots, bat when you put a small cacti in a big pot isnt going to waist time waiting the soil to dry out?
This is good in practice especially for tap rooted plants. But if they dry too quick, your cacti will miss a chance to drink. Different species have different response speeds to moisture and sending out new feeder roots, and tolerances vary for how long they can sit wet.
Trichs (and others) have fairly lateral growing roots, they cover a wide surface area, then they can draw up a lot of moisture, before it drains away (also open ground drains differently to a pot).
I guess i will repot my tricho s next year!
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: gopener]
#18763375 - 08/27/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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awesome some great advice popping up on the thread. ill find as big of a pot that i can afford. im having to move cross country with them and i have five so well see how it goes. all the advice id heard was smaller pots then repotting them allot as they grow but pictures say everything and your collection is looking great man.
im gonna look arround the thrift shops see what i can find for pots lets hope i can save some cash. im excited to finally have some cacti to grow out
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: GoOnThen]
#18763499 - 08/27/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GoOnThen said: These were all were new cuttings ( no roots ) They are still in the same pots and the slowest growers are all in the smallest pots. 
Well then, I won't be fretting about pot sizes next time I need to re pot!
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: 1234go]
#18763618 - 08/27/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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wanted to add that the clock in your signature is awesome
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permafrying said: wanted to add that the clock in your signature is awesome
Thanks, i like it a lot too!
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gopener said: I was thinking, if you can water more times you can get faster growth, so smaller pots can give you much lesser time to dry out the soil. I am aware that bigger pots can give you bigger roots, bat when you put a small cacti in a big pot isnt going to waist time waiting the soil to dry out?
This is good in practice especially for tap rooted plants. But if they dry too quick, your cacti will miss a chance to drink. Different species have different response speeds to moisture and sending out new feeder roots, and tolerances vary for how long they can sit wet.
Trichs (and others) have fairly lateral growing roots, they cover a wide surface area, then they can draw up a lot of moisture, before it drains away (also open ground drains differently to a pot).
So if we have babys, its good idea to keep them together rather than separate pots, for they to dry the pot quicker?
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Yes, i think thats a reason too, plus they like to be together in the same pots, when there roots are still young and dont mess with each other, though lophs can be together for long maybe for ever because there tap root!
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permafrying
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: gopener]
#18769453 - 08/28/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds like you just saved me some cash maybe i can find one big pot for all 5 imstead of using a bunch of smaller pots. I'm thinking maybe just drilling holes in a 5 gallon bucket?
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permafrying said: sounds like you just saved me some cash maybe i can find one big pot for all 5 imstead of using a bunch of smaller pots. I'm thinking maybe just drilling holes in a 5 gallon bucket?
Easily done!Though if you want huge cacti, plant them separately.
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permafrying
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Re: cuttings pot size [Re: gopener]
#18773354 - 08/29/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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well the bucket idea is just temporary untill i can repot into there own seperate pots. financial situation is tight trying to move across the country and all. should i put all 5 in one bucket or should i split them up between two or three.
and im still gonna check out pots if they are affordable ill just start with that from the start. thinking 5 gallon pots should cut it atleast for awhile.
also this talk about zones is kind of confusing i have no idea what zone im in or moving to. i found this but im not sure if this is what i should be looking at
http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/#
Edited by permafrying (08/29/13 05:58 PM)
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