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Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? * 5
    #18768233 - 08/28/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The US have gone beyond what the Nazis were all about but their PR skills are way more advanced and they're just generally much smarter about it.

Both have "free" healthcare and military might. Both have established a false enemy in the eyes of their sheeple. In Germany it was the burning of the Reichstag, in the US it was 9/11. Both events led to the suspension of a number of civil liberties in the interest of the State. Both have a sociopath with deception skills for a leader propagating a bullshit socialist regime.

Under the two regimes schools are under federal control. Hitler successfully prevented his opposition of disseminating challenging views across radio space. The US government uses the Fairness Doctrine to intimidate media that opposes current government policy (and teh US are trying to push SOPA or other equally evil analogue to censor and restrict the intrawebz).

The Nazis had concentration camps, the US have Guantanamo Bay and are able to detain almost anyone indefinitely (unlike the Nazis however they can keep anyone in cages without gassing them where their public relationship skills shine in contrast to the crude Nazi measures). Either the US has 5-15 times more criminally inclined people or just have came up with a more ingenious concentration camp system (however the US was established by lowlife criminal scum).

The Nazi ideology was heavily based on racism. Statistics show that 1 in 116 Caucasians are incarcerated as opposed to 1 in 15 black males being incarcerated. There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people. This is some highly elaborate racial genocide propaganda.

The Nazis killed millions of people. Well the US killed tens of millions. Who conducted the largest (nuclear) terrorism act in the world? Who killed 500,000 children in Iraq by destroying the infrastructure and imposing embargo on the import of water purifying chemicals? Who killed millions in Laos and Cambodia? Your fucking government did!

In Nazi Germany everyone was shitting their pants in fears of the Gestapo knocking down their doors and arresting them. SWAT teams raid regular households in the US cause different household members googled pressure cookers and explosives. Lets not forget recent leaks about mass surveillance.


So there you have it folks :obama: = :hitler:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 3
    #18768302 - 08/28/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Depends on what you mean by worse. The Nazis were motivated by a misunderstanding of conclusions arrived at via the relatively new advancements in science, particularly in biology and medicine. The USA does not commit genocide in an attempt to do something that is impossible. We commit genocide in order to hoard resources and maintain world dominance. Virtually any country who COULD do what the USA is doing, WOULD do what the USA is doing.  We are just playing the game of civilizations which has been played since the beginning of time- we just happen to be winning it by an unprecedented margin.


I'm not saying the US government doesn't have fucked up policies, but our policies are not nearly as insane and obviously negative as those of Nazi Germany.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted] * 5
    #18768303 - 08/28/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

THEYRE BOTH AWESOME


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18768315 - 08/28/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ignorance. False enemy? Yeah ok. LOL.

So lets get this straight..

Rounding up millions of harmless people and slaughtering them is somehow comparable to slaughtering insurgents carrying RPGS and deadly weapons who are completely militarized for the whole intent of causing destruction.

Right. The two are completely comparable. LOL.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Uzziel] * 4
    #18768325 - 08/28/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes: And its not like you get these insurgents on US soil actively invading your bullshit country. Hell if I had GI Joe trying to invade me I'd rush em with an RPG.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 2
    #18768330 - 08/28/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes:



I really hope your post isn't serious. I respect your intelligence dude, but comparing the USA to Nazi Germany is silly.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18768342 - 08/28/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

America doesn't send millions of "undesirables" to concentration camps to be worked to death or gassed.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18768344 - 08/28/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
The US have gone beyond what the Nazis were all about but their PR skills are way more advanced and they're just generally much smarter about it.

Both have "free" healthcare and military might. Both have established a false enemy in the eyes of their sheeple. In Germany it was the burning of the Reichstag, in the US it was 9/11. Both events led to the suspension of a number of civil liberties in the interest of the State. Both have a sociopath with deception skills for a leader propagating a bullshit socialist regime.

Under the two regimes schools are under federal control. Hitler successfully prevented his opposition of disseminating challenging views across radio space. The US government uses the Fairness Doctrine to intimidate media that opposes current government policy (and teh US are trying to push SOPA or other equally evil analogue to censor and restrict the intrawebz).

The Nazis had concentration camps, the US have Guantanamo Bay and are able to detain almost anyone indefinitely (unlike the Nazis however they can keep anyone in cages without gassing them where their public relationship skills shine in contrast to the crude Nazi measures). Either the US has 5-15 times more criminally inclined people or just have came up with a more ingenious concentration camp system (however the US was established by lowlife criminal scum).

The Nazi ideology was heavily based on racism. Statistics show that 1 in 116 Caucasians are incarcerated as opposed to 1 in 15 black males being incarcerated. There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people. This is some highly elaborate racial genocide propaganda.

The Nazis killed millions of people. Well the US killed tens of millions. Who conducted the largest (nuclear) terrorism act in the world? Who killed 500,000 children in Iraq by destroying the infrastructure and imposing embargo on the import of water purifying chemicals? Who killed millions in Laos and Cambodia? Your fucking government did!

In Nazi Germany everyone was shitting their pants in fears of the Gestapo knocking down their doors and arresting them. SWAT teams raid regular households in the US cause different household members googled pressure cookers and explosives. Lets not forget recent leaks about mass surveillance.


So there you have it folks :obama: = :hitler:




I am also very critical of US policy, but your comparisons have major flaws. Comparing Nazis concentration camps to Guantanamo Bay, or US prisons is just silly, I am sure you can see the distinction.

"There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people."

Yet, the statistics clearly show they commit a massive disproportional amount of crime, including black on black crime, how is that racial propoganda?  Even black leadership acknowledge this fact.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #18768346 - 08/28/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Depends on what you mean by worse. The Nazis were motivated by a misunderstanding of conclusions arrived at via the relatively new advancements in science, particularly in biology and medicine. The USA does not commit genocide in an attempt to do something that is impossible. We commit suicide in order to hoard resources and maintain world dominance. Virtually any country who COULD do what the USA is doing, WOULD do what the USA is doing.  We are just playing the game of civilizations which has been played since the beginning of time- we just happen to be winning it by an unprecedented margin.


I'm not saying the US government doesn't have fucked up policies, but our policies are not nearly as insane and obviously negative as those of Nazi Germany.



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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18768350 - 08/28/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes: And its not like you get these insurgents on US soil actively invading your bullshit country. Hell if I had GI Joe trying to invade me I'd rush em with an RPG.




It really is a tragedy for the innocent. Truly.

You seriously are fucking ignorant if this is what you believe. You don't understand what american soldiers have to go through over there.

They go so far as to send LITTLE CHILDREN to kill american soldiers with bombs strapped to them. So don't go and fucking say shit you don't know about. Go watch some real documentaries about what is going on over there before you run your trap like an ignorant teenager.

When you have a little kid running up to you they have SECONDS to determine whether they are a threat or scared at the situation, you start to realize how dangerous it really is over there.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: qman]
    #18768387 - 08/28/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
I'm not saying the US government doesn't have fucked up policies, but our policies are not nearly as insane and obviously negative as those of Nazi Germany.



Thats why their good at it, cause they've refined their ways are not obvious about it.

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qman said:
Comparing Nazis concentration camps to Guantanamo Bay, or US prisons is just silly, I am sure you can see the distinction.



Detaining someone indefinitely without a trial and subjecting them to torture sure does seem like some Nazi shit to me. I bet they murder people as well but they just hide it well. The world didn't know about the mass concentration camp killings until the allies liberated them.

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"There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people."

Yet, the statistics clearly show they commit a massive disproportional amount of crime, including black on black crime, how is that racial propoganda?  Even black leadership acknowledge this fact.



Since violence is extremely primitive are you suggesting that black people are inferior?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18768388 - 08/28/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

At least the Nazis had balls.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Uzziel]
    #18768393 - 08/28/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
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mellowparty said:
Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes: And its not like you get these insurgents on US soil actively invading your bullshit country. Hell if I had GI Joe trying to invade me I'd rush em with an RPG.




It really is a tragedy for the innocent. Truly.

You seriously are fucking ignorant if this is what you believe. You don't understand what american soldiers have to go through over there.

They go so far as to send LITTLE CHILDREN to kill american soldiers with bombs strapped to them. So don't go and fucking say shit you don't know about. Go watch some real documentaries about what is going on over there before you run your trap like an ignorant teenager.

When you have a little kid running up to you they have SECONDS to determine whether they are a threat or scared at the situation, you start to realize how dangerous it really is over there.



Are you brainwashed or just slow? Why do you have armed forces there in the first place? Its all a part of the NWO agenda to maintain geopolitical goals in the interest of your lazy, fat ass, cholesterol-infused economics. Murica, fuck yeah righ?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18768397 - 08/28/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Is this thread for real?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18768406 - 08/28/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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So there you have it folks :obama: = :hitler:



So, you blame solely :obama:?  In other words, you wouldn't be posting this if Romney won? :rolleyes:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: jewunit]
    #18768409 - 08/28/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Is this thread for real?




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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #18768413 - 08/28/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Thats why their good at it, cause they've refined their ways are not obvious about it.


You have to demonstrate that we are doing the same thing that Nazi Germany did in order to claim that we are better at doing what they did than they were. I think you will have a hard time demonstrating that we are committing mass murder with the goal of perfecting humanity.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18768416 - 08/28/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Quote:

Uzziel said:
Quote:

mellowparty said:
Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes: And its not like you get these insurgents on US soil actively invading your bullshit country. Hell if I had GI Joe trying to invade me I'd rush em with an RPG.




It really is a tragedy for the innocent. Truly.

You seriously are fucking ignorant if this is what you believe. You don't understand what american soldiers have to go through over there.

They go so far as to send LITTLE CHILDREN to kill american soldiers with bombs strapped to them. So don't go and fucking say shit you don't know about. Go watch some real documentaries about what is going on over there before you run your trap like an ignorant teenager.

When you have a little kid running up to you they have SECONDS to determine whether they are a threat or scared at the situation, you start to realize how dangerous it really is over there.



Are you brainwashed or just slow? Why do you have armed forces there in the first place? Its all a part of the NWO agenda to maintain geopolitical goals in the interest of your lazy, fat ass, cholesterol-infused economics. Murica, fuck yeah righ?




This thread is about to be forum 99'd.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Gumby] * 1
    #18768419 - 08/28/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Are you brainwashed or just slow? Why do you have armed forces there in the first place? Its all a part of the NWO agenda to maintain geopolitical goals in the interest of your lazy, fat ass, cholesterol-infused economics. Murica, fuck yeah righ?




:huxleyfacepalm:
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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #18768425 - 08/28/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Synthe said:
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mellowparty said:


So there you have it folks :obama: = :hitler:



So, you blame solely :obama:?  In other words, you wouldn't be posting this if Romney won? :rolleyes:



It doesn't matter who wins, your president is just a puppet either way.

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I think you will have a hard time demonstrating that we are committing mass murder with the goal of perfecting humanity.



No, US is killing millions of innocent people to maintain their geopolitical interests. At least the Nazis thought they were doing good to humanity.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18768426 - 08/28/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mellowparty said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
I'm not saying the US government doesn't have fucked up policies, but our policies are not nearly as insane and obviously negative as those of Nazi Germany.



Thats why their good at it, cause they've refined their ways are not obvious about it.

Quote:

qman said:
Comparing Nazis concentration camps to Guantanamo Bay, or US prisons is just silly, I am sure you can see the distinction.



Detaining someone indefinitely without a trial and subjecting them to torture sure does seem like some Nazi shit to me. I bet they murder people as well but they just hide it well. The world didn't know about the mass concentration camp killings until the allies liberated them.

Quote:

"There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people."

Yet, the statistics clearly show they commit a massive disproportional amount of crime, including black on black crime, how is that racial propoganda?  Even black leadership acknowledge this fact.



Since violence is extremely primitive are you suggesting that black people are inferior?



No hes just pointing out that blacks in the US commit the majority of violent crime despite being a minority.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 2
    #18768430 - 08/28/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
I'm not saying the US government doesn't have fucked up policies, but our policies are not nearly as insane and obviously negative as those of Nazi Germany.



Thats why their good at it, cause they've refined their ways are not obvious about it.

Quote:

qman said:
Comparing Nazis concentration camps to Guantanamo Bay, or US prisons is just silly, I am sure you can see the distinction.



Detaining someone indefinitely without a trial and subjecting them to torture sure does seem like some Nazi shit to me. I bet they murder people as well but they just hide it well. The world didn't know about the mass concentration camp killings until the allies liberated them.

Quote:

"There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people."

Yet, the statistics clearly show they commit a massive disproportional amount of crime, including black on black crime, how is that racial propoganda?  Even black leadership acknowledge this fact.



Since violence is extremely primitive are you suggesting that black people are inferior?




I am not suggesting anything, facts are facts, come up with your own conclusions, men are more violent than women, it doesn't necessarily make them inferior.

"I bet they murder people as well but they just hide it as well."

So you're just speculating now, and your justification is that Nazis hid their murderous ways 70 years ago, I am sorry but that doesn't pass the test.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18768432 - 08/28/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:

mellowparty said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
I'm not saying the US government doesn't have fucked up policies, but our policies are not nearly as insane and obviously negative as those of Nazi Germany.



Thats why their good at it, cause they've refined their ways are not obvious about it.

Quote:

qman said:
Comparing Nazis concentration camps to Guantanamo Bay, or US prisons is just silly, I am sure you can see the distinction.



Detaining someone indefinitely without a trial and subjecting them to torture sure does seem like some Nazi shit to me. I bet they murder people as well but they just hide it well. The world didn't know about the mass concentration camp killings until the allies liberated them.

Quote:

"There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people."

Yet, the statistics clearly show they commit a massive disproportional amount of crime, including black on black crime, how is that racial propoganda?  Even black leadership acknowledge this fact.



Since violence is extremely primitive are you suggesting that black people are inferior?



No hes just pointing out that blacks in the US commit the majority of violent crime despite being a minority.



So they're inherently worse than white people?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18768441 - 08/28/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:

mellowparty said:
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morrowasted said:
I'm not saying the US government doesn't have fucked up policies, but our policies are not nearly as insane and obviously negative as those of Nazi Germany.



Thats why their good at it, cause they've refined their ways are not obvious about it.

Quote:

qman said:
Comparing Nazis concentration camps to Guantanamo Bay, or US prisons is just silly, I am sure you can see the distinction.



Detaining someone indefinitely without a trial and subjecting them to torture sure does seem like some Nazi shit to me. I bet they murder people as well but they just hide it well. The world didn't know about the mass concentration camp killings until the allies liberated them.

Quote:

"There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people."

Yet, the statistics clearly show they commit a massive disproportional amount of crime, including black on black crime, how is that racial propoganda?  Even black leadership acknowledge this fact.



Since violence is extremely primitive are you suggesting that black people are inferior?



No hes just pointing out that blacks in the US commit the majority of violent crime despite being a minority.



So they're inherently worse than white people?



Uh nope thats just the crime statistics draw whatever conclusions you want. Statistics don't tell the whole story crime is generally linked to poverty and blacks also on average more likely to be in poverty.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: qman]
    #18768451 - 08/28/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
So you're just speculating now, and your justification is that Nazis hid their murderous ways 70 years ago, I am sorry but that doesn't pass the test.



They do kill people there. Just not as many.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18768462 - 08/28/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

When we go and round up all muslims, deem them as terrorists BY THE MILLIONS and then torture/gas/whatever them inside prison camps on american soil based only on hatred.

Yes, then there might be slight comparison....


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Herbologist]
    #18768520 - 08/28/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Either way the US is messed up as shit. They did kill tens of millions of people across the globe and pulled the biggest financial ripoff in the world. You can defend your bullshit country all you want but it doesn't change the fact that its a fucking fascist state.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Herbologist] * 2
    #18768532 - 08/28/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

We're working on it. Jeez. Nazi Germany didn't become Nazi Germany over night guys. You don't just wake up and kill millions of Jews.

Also did someone forget to mention most of the Nazi's came to secretly work for the US after the Nuremberg trials? Well they did.

What our government has planned is just as sinister if not WAY worse than anything Nazi Germany ever did. They are just doing it very methodically, step by step. You all motherfuckers need Talos.



We are the rapists and murderers of the world over now. US is almost at total fascist police state level. We are getting there.
You don't throw a frog into a pot of boiling water, the fucker jumps out.
You put the frog into cold water and increase the heat gradually... that dumb motherfucker never even realizes.

But so far we've killed more people than Nazi germany, and we haven't even collapsed yet.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #18768547 - 08/28/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #18768580 - 08/28/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Inconspicuous]
    #18768583 - 08/28/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

wtf banned??????

thats fucked up


for how long?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Inconspicuous]
    #18768597 - 08/28/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18768601 - 08/28/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

A week.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18768603 - 08/28/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Inconspicuous said:
Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.




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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18768629 - 08/28/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.




What was his inappropriate post?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: qman]
    #18768630 - 08/28/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:Either way the US is messed up as shit. They did kill tens of millions of people across the globe and pulled the biggest financial ripoff in the world. You can defend your bullshit country all you want but it doesn't change the fact that its a fucking fascist state.





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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: qman]
    #18768633 - 08/28/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.




What was his inappropriate post?




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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Shroomism]
    #18768643 - 08/28/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I don't understand how that violates the rules.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Shroomism]
    #18768644 - 08/28/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

a lot of nazis were also involved, along with the US, in the manipulation of media, and mind control through hypnosis.

nazis were in cahoots with a lot of top US military/government officials involved in the study and pursuit of controlling and mentally manipulating the masses through television and subliminal messages in media flow and propagation of information


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18768646 - 08/28/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Either way the US is messed up as shit. They did kill tens of millions of people across the globe and pulled the biggest financial ripoff in the world. You can defend your bullshit country all you want but it doesn't change the fact that its a fucking fascist state.



Quote:

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Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.




This. He could have made his point without being a dick.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Inconspicuous]
    #18768651 - 08/28/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Inconspicuous said:
Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.




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Still doesn't mean it was over his views.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18768795 - 08/28/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Inconspicuous said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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Inconspicuous said:
Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.




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Still doesn't mean it was over his views.




That's true, but I see many more posts worded as strongly as his, in different threads. The only different factor being the viewpoint (and the person). 

The facts are there at the end of the day, anyone can make an educated guess for or against. I'll leave it open.


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    #18768801 - 08/28/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Either way the US is messed up as shit. They did kill tens of millions of people across the globe and pulled the biggest financial ripoff in the world. You can defend your bullshit country all you want but it doesn't change the fact that its a fucking fascist state.



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luvdemshrooms said:
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Inconspicuous said:
Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.




This. He could have made his point without being a dick.



I still think the ban is inappropriate. As much as I think this thread sucks.


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    #18768806 - 08/28/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
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Gumby said:
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mellowparty said:
Either way the US is messed up as shit. They did kill tens of millions of people across the globe and pulled the biggest financial ripoff in the world. You can defend your bullshit country all you want but it doesn't change the fact that its a fucking fascist state.



Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
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Inconspicuous said:
Wow, someone must have really disliked Mellows viewpoint to ban him over it.




I doubt it was over his viewpoint.




This. He could have made his point without being a dick.



I still think the ban is inappropriate. As much as I think this thread sucks.




That's a dictatorship for you... You're 2 posts away from 10k :super:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18768917 - 08/28/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't understand how that violates the rules.




I can't figure it either. Telling someone their country is "bullshit"  is a bit rude but I wouldn't have thought it broke the rules.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: psi]
    #18768927 - 08/28/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

both disgusting in different ways. just like any 'country'


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    #18768989 - 08/28/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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both disgusting in different ways. just like any 'country'



Yep the UK never caused any problems or was imperilaist in any way. :rolleyes:


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    #18769305 - 08/28/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Nazi Germany

1. Loosened gun laws

2. protection of animals and environment

3. women rights

4. organized crime was brought to 0%

5. reduced unemployment

6.advancements in technology and medical field

More could be said...

Nazi Germany was a interesting time. To bad the over all outcome was horrific do to the agenda of a handful of higher ups. Just like any political party/government system they all have horrors. Some just keep it under wraps better then others.


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    #18769484 - 08/28/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The United States is the LeBron James of countries. Scrutinized into pieces, admittedly arrogant, and undoubtedly flawed in many areas.

But still utterly dominant.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Niffla]
    #18769493 - 08/28/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Niffla said:
The United States is the LeBron James of countries. Scrutinized into pieces, admittedly arrogant, and undoubtedly flawed in many areas.

But still utterly dominant.



:kaneclap: yep its so funny to see how jealous other nations are of us if they were in power they would all do the same


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    #18769525 - 08/28/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Niffla said:
The United States is the LeBron James of countries. Scrutinized into pieces, admittedly arrogant, and undoubtedly flawed in many areas.

But still utterly dominant.



:kaneclap: yep its so funny to see how jealous other nations are of us if they were in power they would all do the same




I just think it's funny how much time they spend stewing over us. Just worry about their own country, because we damn sure aren't sitting here worried about theirs. Too much butthurt in this world.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Niffla]
    #18769529 - 08/28/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It would be bettar if the US ruled all nations!


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18769537 - 08/28/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
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Gumby said:
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mellowparty said:
Either way the US is messed up as shit. They did kill tens of millions of people across the globe and pulled the biggest financial ripoff in the world. You can defend your bullshit country all you want but it doesn't change the fact that its a fucking fascist state.




This. He could have made his point without being a dick.




I still think the ban is inappropriate. As much as I think this thread sucks.




That ban was kinda lame...:shrug: . . . :peace:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Niffla]
    #18769540 - 08/28/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The United States is the LeBron James of countries. Scrutinized into pieces, admittedly arrogant, and undoubtedly flawed in many areas.

But still utterly dominant.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18769543 - 08/28/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It is interesting that this thread popped up because in one of my classes today we were discussing how Hitler compared what he was doing to the European conquest of North America.


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    #18769579 - 08/28/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Ignorance. False enemy? Yeah ok. LOL.

So lets get this straight..

Rounding up millions of harmless people and slaughtering them is somehow comparable to slaughtering insurgents carrying RPGS and deadly weapons who are completely militarized for the whole intent of causing destruction.

Right. The two are completely comparable. LOL.



This is what it comes down to,yeah we have done some fucked up shit overseas but not even nearly comparable to the slaughter of millions of innocent people.If you think it's even a close race your either retarded or one sick fucker


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18769582 - 08/28/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes:



I respect your intelligence dude




Why would you do that?  Please provide an example that supports your contention.  Thanks in advance.


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    #18769590 - 08/28/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes:



I respect your intelligence dude




Why would you do that?  Please provide an example that supports your contention.  Thanks in advance.



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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Shroomism]
    #18769591 - 08/28/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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We're working on it. Jeez. Nazi Germany didn't become Nazi Germany over night guys. You don't just wake up and kill millions of Jews.

Also did someone forget to mention most of the Nazi's came to secretly work for the US after the Nuremberg trials? Well they did.

What our government has planned is just as sinister if not WAY worse than anything Nazi Germany ever did. They are just doing it very methodically, step by step. You all motherfuckers need Talos.



We are the rapists and murderers of the world over now. US is almost at total fascist police state level. We are getting there.
You don't throw a frog into a pot of boiling water, the fucker jumps out.
You put the frog into cold water and increase the heat gradually... that dumb motherfucker never even realizes.

But so far we've killed more people than Nazi germany, and we haven't even collapsed yet.





Exactly this.  Anyone who claims otherwise is a sheeple with the blinders on.

Just my opinion.  And in my experience, the sheeple are happy being sheeple.  The frog who is being slowly brought to a boil doesn't mind.

My opinion?  People who are actually happy being ignorant to the facts of what's really going on deserve what's coming to them :thumbup:

But as history has shown...there will come a time when the "mob" revolts.  When enough people are dying, hungry and raped of all their human rights...the mob will turn on their owners.

i can't wait :smile:  We are in an exciting time in history! :grin: :evil:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked]
    #18769651 - 08/28/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

We've killed more people than Nazi Germany?  Nazi Germany is responsible for ever single death in the European Theater of Operations in WW2, including their own.  Every single one.  And the Japanese are responsible for every death in the Pacific, including their own.

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    #18769749 - 08/28/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Theres a huge difference between killing in war and creating concentration camps. America has its fair share of killing people in war but The Nazis killed to try and create an Aryan race. They killed simply to weed undiserables out. Also Nazi scientist experimented very horrifically on people of all ages babies, kids, old people etc. and it wasn't just blood tests or anything they would starve people to death while they watched along with tons of other horrific acts. Also Nazi Germany killed over 6million jews and 12million others in a span of 5 years,it took them just 5 years to do that. If the Nazis won WW2 want to bet the death toll would be in the 100's of millions by now. This whole thread is just :facepalm:.You think you have it so fucking bad go live in Syria for few months then bitch about the U.S.


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    #18769757 - 08/28/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Theres a huge difference between killing in war and creating concentration camps. America has its fair share of killing people in war but The Nazis killed to try and create an Aryan race. They killed simply to weed undiserables out. Also Nazi scientist experimented very horrifically on people of all ages babies, kids, old people etc. and it wasn't just blood tests or anything they would starve people to death while they watched along with tons of other horrific acts. Also Nazi Germany killed over 6million jews and 12million others in a span of 5 years,it took them just 5 years to do that. If the Nazis won WW2 want to bet the death toll would be in the 100's of millions by now. This whole thread is just :facepalm:.You think you have it so fucking bad go live in Syria for few months then bitch about the U.S.




Some people are just ignorant, and they're always going to believe what they're going to believe, no matter how retarded it is. I just ignore them because there's like a billion of them out there. But anyway, good post.


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    #18769794 - 08/28/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
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Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes:



I respect your intelligence dude




Why would you do that?  Please provide an example that supports your contention.  Thanks in advance.



he obviously has a lot of scientific know-how. stupid people don't handle biochemistry well. thought I will admit that my opinion of his intelligence has steadily declined over the course of the last year. I never used to see posts like this from him




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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18769872 - 08/28/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think this is a fairly scandalous comparison to make, DH. You've said some crazy shit throughout the years but this might just take the cake... assuming you haven't said it before. :smirk:

Seriously though, it's very difficult to directly rebut any of your parallels, but the Nazis made their home at depths to which we have yet to sink. Institutional racism and the general repression of minority groups is very real in this country, but to compare it to the Holocaust is a bit immoderate. I might even say hysterical. This kind of absurd bombast is irresponsible; it aids and abets conservatives who would like to pretend institutional racism doesn't exist at all.


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    #18769888 - 08/28/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Institutional racism and the general repression of minority groups is very real in this country,




Do you mean East Asians?  Most minority groups in this country are institutionally favored.


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    #18769943 - 08/28/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

IME it really depends on where you are in the country. I've had experience with public education in both the San Francisco area and in East Tennessee. As a white kid, my education was not prioritized in the San Francisco area. I also couldn't help but notice that all the kids in the gifted programs were minorities. However, in East Tennessee, I got on the school paper even though I got a D in English, and every single kid on that paper was white. I wouldn't be surprised if this situation was typical for areas which are less diverse than the SF area. I could obviously be wrong about this. And the statistics regarding arrests and convictions of blacks compared to whites also support the idea that the majority-white government (whether intentionally or simply by accident) could be operating in a way that is patently racist.

IMO institutional racism is certainly real, but it's up for debate as to whether it's intentional or not and who, exactly, is guilty. I think it might be an unfortunate fact of humanity that, in general, we instinctively favor people who share our skin color. That doesn't mean we can't do better.


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    #18769961 - 08/28/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Affirmative Action is institutional racism.


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    #18769963 - 08/28/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Of course America is the only one to blame, good thing OP is not a citizen of a country that blindly panders along and joins our every war...
I know you wouldn't be part of a country that's committed genocides, taken place in world domination, forced drug wars, and devastating colonialism in the past would you?

Oh wait,

You're in the UK

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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18769984 - 08/28/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Affirmative Action is institutional racism.




If it's based on race, I agree. :shrug: I'm a little more in favor of affirmative action based on factors such as economic background, however.

I don't see how racism is solved with more racism. It's always liberal areas that emphasize race-based affirmative action, liberal areas which have more diversity in their community than most of the country. In other words, they shouldn't need it much, because the capacity of a single majority to oppress small minorities is more limited. So they're basically creating little enclaves of anti-white hostility as if that will somehow "level the playing field" in a country that is geographically dominated by whites. :failboat:


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    #18770010 - 08/28/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Affirmative Action is institutional racism.




If it's based on race, I agree. :shrug: I'm a little more in favor of affirmative action based on factors such as economic background, however.

I don't see how racism is solved with more racism. It's always liberal areas that emphasize race-based affirmative action, liberal areas which have more diversity in their community than most of the country. In other words, they shouldn't need it much, because the capacity of a single majority to oppress small minorities is more limited. So they're basically creating little enclaves of anti-white hostility as if that will somehow "level the playing field" in a country that is geographically dominated by whites. :failboat:




I'm getting sick and tired of that word, "diversity".  Also "affordability", "fairness" and "economic justice" as they are being perverted by the mental midgets and losers these days.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18770038 - 08/28/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Eh, I do enjoy diversity. Sometimes I'm attracted to the notion of living in an area where I'll be more favored on the basis of my skin color, but honestly I think it would drive me nuts.

And the fact remains that affordability is the reason why affirmative action fails so badly-- it's popular in liberal areas, which generally have a higher cost of living, so their efforts are effectively worthless to the mass of economically disadvantaged minorities in this country who might legitimately benefit from a fairer shake.


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    #18770092 - 08/28/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Nazis had concentration camps, the US have Guantanamo Bay





:justnotright:


You need a history lesson. Guantanamo bay is like a banana republic prison ran by America, but the Nazi concentration camps were nothing short of Hell on Earth.

You really cant compare that.

You need to read some firsthand accounts of what it was like.

Please, read THIS even if you think you know what it was like, just read what this man has gone through in his year of serving as a Sonderkommando inmate-worker in the death camp of Treblinka.
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    #18770122 - 08/28/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Eh, I do enjoy diversity. Sometimes I'm attracted to the notion of living in an area where I'll be more favored on the basis of my skin color, but honestly I think it would drive me nuts.




Me too but I don't think it should be imposed or even a particular goal. 
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And the fact remains that affordability is the reason why affirmative action fails so badly-- it's popular in liberal areas, which generally have a higher cost of living, so their efforts are effectively worthless to the mass of economically disadvantaged minorities in this country who might legitimately benefit from a fairer shake.




"Affordable" is utterly meaningless.  If someone makes a half mil a year and someone makes 25K a year, "affordable" has vastly different meanings to them, doesn't it?  Friday we are getting a new X5.  Steven Michel Paradise is not.


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    #18770148 - 08/28/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Nazis had concentration camps, the US have Guantanamo Bay





:justnotright:


You need a history lesson. Guantanamo bay is like a banana republic prison ran by America, but the Nazi concentration camps were nothing short of Hell on Earth.

You really cant compare that.

You need to read some firsthand accounts of what it was like.






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    #18770302 - 08/28/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The Nazi regime was a party that took power, committed horrible atrocities, but was subsequently wiped off the face of the earth (by the USA).

It's not a fair comparison because the parts of Germany that made it 'worse' are now basically gone but the parts of America that made it bad have been able to survive up until present day.

It's like comparing a deranged 10 year old who dies at a young age to a really old man who likes to do unethical shit sometimes.


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    #18770314 - 08/28/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It's like comparing a deranged 10 year old who dies at a young age to a really old man who likes to do unethical shit sometimes.




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    #18770377 - 08/28/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It tends to happen when he does the amphetamines.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18770416 - 08/28/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I love how everyone just keeps referring back to his horrible analogy of the concentration camps vs guantanamo bay

...there were quite a few other similarities that I think ring true :shrug:

Classic deflection techniques by the ignorant though

Definition of ignorant: "Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular"

Not trying to be insulting.

I do think he was quite aggressive towards people who didn't agree, which wasn't cool.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked]
    #18770518 - 08/28/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It is a pretty outrageous claim. The Nazis' institution of a network of death camps throughout Europe for any given minority is not comparable to Guantanamo Bay.

OP is full of arguments like that, comparisons which appear salient from a theoretical perspective but quickly wither under any serious comparison. I was going to take it on point-by-point but it's so ridiculous and full of bluster that an equitable response would be far, far too kind.


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    #18770566 - 08/28/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It is a pretty outrageous claim. The Nazis' practice of setting up a network of death camps throughout Europe for any given minority is not comparable to Guantanamo Bay.




agreed. But this is the deflection technique I tried addressing earlier...so many people are doing it in this thread.

They don't bother addressing all the other examples.  And in my opinion, there ARE quite a few similarities between the comparison of the nazi movement and the US government/military movement :shrug:

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I was going to take it on point-by-point but it's so ridiculous and full of bluster




That's your OPINION.  I don't agree, but :cheers:.  I already know what your all about.  I don't think you and me will ever agree on anything :lol:

The difference between me and you is, I don't walk away from this post thinking "I'm right, she's wrong".  I walk away going, "well, everyone's entitled to their opinions"

But I went off on a tangent there.  I think it's clear where I stand.  The way I see it, the bottom line is, it doesn't matter the reason or justification for their actions...the U.S. has killed WAY more people than the nazi movement.  They have also done horrible war crimes, of ALL sorts.  They also control their citizens, spy on them and take away more and more human rights as the years go by.  Their agenda is exactly the same in my opinion...POWER.  They just use different excuses and reasons in their quest for it.

My original post, concurring with shroomism's post, shows where I clearly stand.  And anyone who thinks otherwise has the blinders on in my opinion.

But if they are happy living like that, well who am I to care? 


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    #18770590 - 08/28/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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OP is full of arguments like that, comparisons which appear salient from a theoretical perspective


lol sorry BS but there was nothing salient about the appearance of this comparison :lol:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked]
    #18770609 - 08/28/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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They don't bother addressing all the other examples.  And in my opinion, there ARE quite a few similarities between the comparison of the nazi movement and the US government/military movement :shrug:




It's cherrypicking. In France they've banned burqas. This goes much further in legally and intentionally repressing an ethnic minority than anything that occurs in the US in this day and age. The statistics on stop-and-frisk are a sign of something very wrong, but it's not comparable even to what France does. :shrug:

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I was going to take it on point-by-point but it's so ridiculous and full of bluster




That's your OPINION.  I don't agree, but :cheers:.  I already know what your all about.  I don't think you and me will ever agree on anything :lol:

The difference between me and you is, I don't walk away from this post thinking "I'm right, she's wrong".  I walk away going, "well, everyone's entitled to their opinions"




Did I say you weren't entitled to your opinion? I see why you sympathize with OP so much, you clearly have a similar habit of pompous nonsense.


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    #18770634 - 08/28/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I see why you sympathize with OP so much, you clearly have a similar habit of pompous nonsense.




:rolleyes:

I sympathize with him having to listen to your ignorant, uneducated, sidestepping drivel.

I think it was also clear I said his comparison of the concentration camps was ridiculous.

I think I also said it wasn't cool of him to get so aggressive when stuck up little children like yourself kept blasting him for the said ridiculous remark :smirk:

You didn't say I wasn't entitled to my opinion.  I just asserted this for you.  By your defensive stance, it's quite clear that I asserted correctly.

Again, I've run into you on the boards before.  We won't agree on anything, I'm sure of it.  I think we both know you need to grow up though

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    #18770646 - 08/28/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry if I didn't read the entire thread, I'm far too old and thus busy to deal with so much pompous nonsense! :oldman:


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    #18770659 - 08/28/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Again, I've run into you on the boards before.  We won't agree on anything, I'm sure of it.


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    #18770670 - 08/28/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry if I didn't read the entire thread, I'm far too old and thus busy to deal with so much pompous nonsense! :oldman:




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    #18770677 - 08/28/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Again, I've run into you on the boards before.  We won't agree on anything, I'm sure of it.


not something I would readily admit to if I were you.




Oh I've been around here much longer than her.  I can confidently say that.  She's definitely far from an "idol", and the furthest thing from a beacon of knowledge and wisdom :smirk:

:lol: that's going a little far, even for me.  There's SO much worse on this board.  But yeah, she's/he is pretty shmeh to me


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    #18770679 - 08/28/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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But I went off on a tangent there.  I think it's clear where I stand.  The way I see it, the bottom line is, it doesn't matter the reason or justification for their actions...the U.S. has killed WAY more people than the nazi movement.  They have also done horrible war crimes, of ALL sorts.  They also control their citizens, spy on them and take away more and more human rights as the years go by.  Their agenda is exactly the same in my opinion...POWER.  They just use different excuses and reasons in their quest for it.

My original post, concurring with shroomism's post, shows where I clearly stand.  And anyone who thinks otherwise has the blinders on in my opinion.

But if they are happy living like that, well who am I to care? 




Nice how you added a whole three paragraphs to your post after I called it out on being pompous nonsense, making it look like I intentionally obscured your illustrious Rebuttal. :rolleyes:

g00ru already said it best, why don't you put your epic reading comprehension skills to the test and go find the post I'm talking about.


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    #18770694 - 08/28/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Nice how you added a whole three paragraphs to your post after I called it out on being pompous nonsense, making it look like I intentionally obscured your illustrious Rebuttal.




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    #18770702 - 08/28/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18770705 - 08/28/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18770707 - 08/28/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So much so that you couldn't even bring yourself to respond to both of my paragraphs in a single post?

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    #18770717 - 08/28/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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So much so that you couldn't even bring yourself to respond to both of my paragraphs in a single post?

:itwasgoodforme:





When I realized you responded, after my initial post, I should have edited to include it all in one hey?  That would make you happy?

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    #18770719 - 08/28/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Godwins law, I still laugh anytime someone comes out with the Nazi comparisons...


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    #18770722 - 08/28/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes: And its not like you get these insurgents on US soil actively invading your bullshit country. Hell if I had GI Joe trying to invade me I'd rush em with an RPG.




It really is a tragedy for the innocent. Truly.

You seriously are fucking ignorant if this is what you believe. You don't understand what american soldiers have to go through over there.

They go so far as to send LITTLE CHILDREN to kill american soldiers with bombs strapped to them. So don't go and fucking say shit you don't know about. Go watch some real documentaries about what is going on over there before you run your trap like an ignorant teenager.

When you have a little kid running up to you they have SECONDS to determine whether they are a threat or scared at the situation, you start to realize how dangerous it really is over there.




He doesn't understand what's going on over there, but you do because you watched some documentaries? I don't agree with the assessment of the OP, but you have to be pretty dense to not acknowledge that we have killed a huge number of civilians in the Iraq/Afghanistan conflicts.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/06/afghanistan-iraq-wars-killed-132000-civilians-report-says

http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians-killed-and-wounded

Estimates are far above one hundred thousand. It's not really comparable to concentration camps, and it wasn't necessarily intentional, but that's still a large amount of collateral damage that can't be dismissed simply by saying "it's dangerous over there".

In any case, this thread is pretty ridiculous.


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    #18770733 - 08/28/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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since when is blindsophist a girl??




Another interesting thing about "her" character.

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since when is blindsophist a girl??




Another interesting thing about "her" character.

But shmeh, each to their own



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since when is blindsophist a girl??




Another interesting thing about "her" character.

But shmeh, each to their own



BS has never intimated to me that [s]he is female




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    #18770760 - 08/28/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18770773 - 08/28/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I try not to go around blabbing about it but I am transgender.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #18770775 - 08/28/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yeah. each to their own.  :thumbup:

anyhow /thread

OP is banned, for good reason.  No reason to continue.  It's now gotten into the realm of calling out peoples double posts and edits :lol:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked]
    #18770779 - 08/28/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

At this point, what else do we have to work with? Certainly not your arguments. :smirk:


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    #18770784 - 08/28/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I try not to go around blabbing about it but I am transgender.



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    #18770791 - 08/28/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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At this point, what else do we have to work with? Certainly not your arguments. :smirk:



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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18770795 - 08/28/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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At this point, what else do we have to work with? Certainly not your arguments. :smirk:




still with the personal attacks.  Totally fits your style.  You reek of insecurity and ignorance.

I guess we will just have to rely on your charm, intelligence and wit then right? :canthelpbutlaugh:























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    #18770834 - 08/28/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

He didn't make a personal attack in the post you quoted.  Your arguments are not you.


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    #18770869 - 08/28/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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He didn't make a personal attack in the post you quoted.




Right. :rolleyes:

Just one of many.  Common tactic for BS

edit: I'm no saint though, so shmeh.  Time to let this die

(oh god forbid BS posted while I edited just now)...may gods have mercy on my soul!)


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked]
    #18770892 - 08/28/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18770924 - 08/28/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I try not to go around blabbing about it but I am transgender.



male - > female or female -> male? :strokebeard:




It's all in the icon, but a lot of people use the wrong pronoun anyway. Sometimes, I almost think they do it on purpose. :hmm:

So how 'bout them personal attacks, eh? I wouldn't identify yourself with your arguments if I were you, Masked. :smug:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18770947 - 08/28/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I won't be taking advice from you.  Especially about identity :smug:




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    #18770969 - 08/28/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Nazi regime was a party that took power, committed horrible atrocities, but was subsequently wiped off the face of the earth (by the USA).

It's not a fair comparison because the parts of Germany that made it 'worse' are now basically gone but the parts of America that made it bad have been able to survive up until present day.

It's like comparing a deranged 10 year old who dies at a young age to a really old man who likes to do unethical shit sometimes.




Learn your history please, the entire allied forces took out the Nazi regime not just America, in fact the soviets and U.S. were in a race to Berlin because Hitler's defeat was imminent. Furthermore French, British, Australians,Canadians, Polish and many other countries with the allied forces and companions were critical in D-Day and taking berlin on V.E. day.
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    #18770979 - 08/28/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Nazi regime was a party that took power, committed horrible atrocities, but was subsequently wiped off the face of the earth (by the USA).

It's not a fair comparison because the parts of Germany that made it 'worse' are now basically gone but the parts of America that made it bad have been able to survive up until present day.

It's like comparing a deranged 10 year old who dies at a young age to a really old man who likes to do unethical shit sometimes.




Learn your history please, the entire allied forces took out the Nazi regime not just America, in fact the soviets and U.S. were in a race to Berlin because Hitler's defeat was imminent. Furthermore French, British, Australians,Canadians, Polish and many other countries with the allied forces and companions were critical in D-Day and taking berlin on V.E. day.
I am probably teaching a brick wall but :shrug:




The beauty of message boards.  Single out the one little phrase(I've bolded it in this example), and go to town.

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    #18770984 - 08/28/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I won't be taking advice from you.  Especially about identity :smug:



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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18770991 - 08/28/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The US have gone beyond what the Nazis were all about but their PR skills are way more advanced and they're just generally much smarter about it.

Both have "free" healthcare and military might. Both have established a false enemy in the eyes of their sheeple. In Germany it was the burning of the Reichstag, in the US it was 9/11. Both events led to the suspension of a number of civil liberties in the interest of the State. Both have a sociopath with deception skills for a leader propagating a bullshit socialist regime.

Under the two regimes schools are under federal control. Hitler successfully prevented his opposition of disseminating challenging views across radio space. The US government uses the Fairness Doctrine to intimidate media that opposes current government policy (and teh US are trying to push SOPA or other equally evil analogue to censor and restrict the intrawebz).

The Nazis had concentration camps, the US have Guantanamo Bay and are able to detain almost anyone indefinitely (unlike the Nazis however they can keep anyone in cages without gassing them where their public relationship skills shine in contrast to the crude Nazi measures). Either the US has 5-15 times more criminally inclined people or just have came up with a more ingenious concentration camp system (however the US was established by lowlife criminal scum).

The Nazi ideology was heavily based on racism. Statistics show that 1 in 116 Caucasians are incarcerated as opposed to 1 in 15 black males being incarcerated. There is really no substantial evidence to suggest that blacks are more prone to crime compared to white people. This is some highly elaborate racial genocide propaganda.

The Nazis killed millions of people. Well the US killed tens of millions. Who conducted the largest (nuclear) terrorism act in the world? Who killed 500,000 children in Iraq by destroying the infrastructure and imposing embargo on the import of water purifying chemicals? Who killed millions in Laos and Cambodia? Your fucking government did!

In Nazi Germany everyone was shitting their pants in fears of the Gestapo knocking down their doors and arresting them. SWAT teams raid regular households in the US cause different household members googled pressure cookers and explosives. Lets not forget recent leaks about mass surveillance.


So there you have it folks :obama: = :hitler:



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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked]
    #18770999 - 08/28/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lol I get what you're saying but he also said "It's not a fair comparison because the parts of Germany that made it 'worse' are now basically gone but the parts of America that made it bad have been able to survive up until present day"
Which also pertains to the fact that it wasn't ONLY America that is involved in this


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sheekle]
    #18771000 - 08/28/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I won't be taking advice from you.  Especially about identity :smug:



That doesn't seem too cool of a thing to say eh :shrug:





She's said some "pretty uncool" things throughout this whole ridiculous back and forth banter, personally attacking me again and again with insults :shrug:

besides it was just playful banter that she keeps perpetuating.  Maybe the "smug" emoticon was a poor choice lol. You can see earlier in the thread I gave a :thumbup: about it.  Anyone who knows me knows I don't have a problem at all about it.

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    #18771276 - 08/28/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:noway2:
Masked and BS are two of my favorite shroomery peeps. Seeing you two fight makes me cry.

As to the question at hand. Nazi v. 'Murcia. Gimme a break. America may not be anywhere close to perfect, but the ideals of America have never encouraged the wholesale slaughter of millions of people, and never caused a war that engulfed the entire planet.


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    #18771308 - 08/28/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:thisisterrible: 

:singletear:


Sorry BS :frown:

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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: koods]
    #18771324 - 08/28/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

To all of those who think that the Nazis are worse because they killed people, think again the US had a Eugenics program conducting experiments up until the 60's. The sad majority of Americans are in denial about their country.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Masked]
    #18771331 - 08/28/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

'Sall good, this has been a fun thread. :highfive:

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    #18771342 - 08/29/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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'Sall good, this has been a fun thread. :highfive:

I really hope we didn't traumatize koods too badly, though. :thisisheavyman:




:lol: perfect emoticon use!

yeah, it was entertaining.  I like voicing unpopular opinions :evil:

and I like banter.  But still, I might have got carried away.  So peace :peace:


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    #18771351 - 08/29/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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To all of those who think that the Nazis are worse because they killed people, think again the US had a Eugenics program conducting experiments up until the 60's. The sad majority of Americans are in denial about their country.




Conducting small scale covert experiments vs. conducting overt mass executions. Hmmm. :shrug:

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'Sall good, this has been a fun thread. :highfive:

I really hope we didn't traumatize koods too badly, though. :thisisheavyman:



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    #18771371 - 08/29/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

DON'T PANIC, KOODS! THE MEN IN WHITE COATS ARE COMING!  :sagan:


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DON'T PANIC, KOODS! THE MEN IN WHITE COATS ARE COMING!  :sagan:




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DON'T PANIC, KOODS! THE MEN IN WHITE COATS ARE COMING!  :sagan:




Oh great. To become a subject in some secret government eugenics program, no doubt.




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    #18771589 - 08/29/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't read the thread all the way
but Holocaust Deniers are the mental scum of the earth.
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    #18771702 - 08/29/13 02:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Nazis operated with brute force, America operates with stealth.

Instead of using tanks to expand the empire (well they do...), USA uses corporations to take over the rest of the world. Much easier via corporate-imperialism.

They don't use labor camps, they have jails to manufacture goods (paying few cents an hour to the prisoners - highest incarceration rate in the world)

Cops are probably just about the same...

Propaganda is more advanced in America, I think they learned from Goebbels.

Not sure what the death toll is if you counted in the middle east/arab states, considering the ongoing cancer/birth defect problems in Iraq. 

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    #18774230 - 08/29/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Eugenics, the social movement claiming to improve the genetic features of human populations through selective breeding and sterilization, based on the idea that it is possible to distinguish between superior and inferior elements of society, played a significant role in the history and culture of the United States prior to its involvement in World War II.
Eugenics was practised in the United States many years before eugenics programs in Nazi Germany and actually, U.S. programs provided much of the inspiration for the latter.

Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century with an estimated death toll numbering between 85 and 100 million. Scholarship focuses on the causes of mass killings in single societies, though some claims of common causes for mass killings have been made. Some higher estimates of mass killings include not only mass murders or executions that took place during the elimination of political opponents, civil wars, terror campaigns, and land reforms, but also lives lost due to war, famine, disease, and exhaustion in labor camps. There are scholars who believe that government policies and mistakes in management contributed to these calamities, and, based on that conclusion combine all these deaths under the categories "mass killings", democide, politicide, "classicide", or loosely defined genocide. According to these scholars, the total death toll of the mass killings defined in this way amounts to many tens of millions; however, the validity of this approach is questioned by other scholars.


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    #18774332 - 08/29/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Eugenics, the social movement claiming to improve the genetic features of human populations through selective breeding and sterilization, based on the idea that it is possible to distinguish between superior and inferior elements of society, played a significant role in the history and culture of the United States prior to its involvement in World War II.
Eugenics was practised in the United States many years before eugenics programs in Nazi Germany and actually, U.S. programs provided much of the inspiration for the latter.




ORLY?  Link please.


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Eugenics, the social movement claiming to improve the genetic features of human populations through selective breeding and sterilization, based on the idea that it is possible to distinguish between superior and inferior elements of society, played a significant role in the history and culture of the United States prior to its involvement in World War II.
Eugenics was practised in the United States many years before eugenics programs in Nazi Germany and actually, U.S. programs provided much of the inspiration for the latter.




ORLY?  Link please.




It is true, but Hitlers T4 experiments carried out eugenics in a much farther range then those who lobbied congress for sterilization laws.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States


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    #18774370 - 08/29/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Methinks some people do not know what "significant" means.


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    #18774438 - 08/29/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ya know, the thing with Stalin, is under him, he had this culture of denunciation, the only sure fire way to stay out of the purge was to denounce those close to you. Funny how we never think of Kuropaty, or Katyn forest. They never seem to get the same historical precedence that Nazi atrocities do.


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    #18776843 - 08/30/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Japanese American internment was the World War II internment in "War Relocation Camps" of about 110,000 people of Japanese heritage who lived on the Pacific coast of the United States. The U.S. government ordered the internment in 1942, shortly after Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. The internment of Japanese Americans was applied unequally as a geographic matter: all who lived on the West Coast were interned, while in Hawaii, where 150,000-plus Japanese Americans comprised over one-third of the population, only 1,200 to 1,800 were interned. Sixty-two percent of the internees were American citizens.


Non-military advocates for exclusion, removal, and detention

Internment was popular among many white farmers who resented the Japanese American farmers. "White American farmers admitted that their self-interest required removal of the Japanese." These individuals saw internment as a convenient means of uprooting their Japanese American competitors. Austin E. Anson, managing secretary of the Salinas Vegetable Grower-Shipper Association, told the Saturday Evening Post in 1942:
"We're charged with wanting to get rid of the Japs for selfish reasons. We do. It's a question of whether the white man lives on the Pacific Coast or the brown men. They came into this valley to work, and they stayed to take over... If all the Japs were removed tomorrow, we'd never miss them in two weeks, because the white farmers can take over and produce everything the Jap grows. And we do not want them back when the war ends, either."

The Roberts Commission Report, prepared at President Franklin D. Roosevelt's request, has been cited as an example of the fear and prejudice informing the thinking behind the internment program. The Report sought to link Japanese Americans with espionage activity, and to associate them with the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Columnist Henry McLemore reflected growing public sentiment fueled by this report:
"I am for the immediate removal of every Japanese on the West Coast to a point deep in the interior. I don't mean a nice part of the interior either. Herd 'em up, pack 'em off and give 'em the inside room in the badlands... Personally, I hate the Japanese. And that goes for all of them."

Other California newspapers also embraced this view. According to a Los Angeles Times editorial,
"A viper is nonetheless a viper wherever the egg is hatched.... So, a Japanese American born of Japanese parents, nurtured upon Japanese traditions, living in a transplanted Japanese atmosphere... notwithstanding his nominal brand of accidental citizenship almost inevitably and with the rarest exceptions grows up to be a Japanese, and not an American.... Thus, while it might cause injustice to a few to treat them all as potential enemies, I cannot escape the conclusion... that such treatment... should be accorded to each and all of them while we are at war with their race."

State politicians joined the bandwagon that was embraced by Leland Ford of Los Angeles, who demanded that "all Japanese, whether citizens or not, be placed in [inland] concentration camps." Internment of Japanese Americans, who provided critical agricultural labor on the West Coast, created a labor shortage, which was exacerbated by the induction of many American laborers into the Armed Forces. This vacuum precipitated a mass immigration of Mexican workers into the United States to fill these jobs, minorly under the banner of what became known as the Bracero Program. Many Japanese internees were even temporarily released from their camps – for instance, to harvest Western beet crops – to address this wartime labor shortage.

Just short of mass killing. Otherwise just like when Nazi Germany first  went after jews.


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    #18776881 - 08/30/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Concentration camps were first used the by the British during the Boer war in southern Africa.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18777001 - 08/30/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am a German who is rather well acquainted with both the third Reich and the US justice problem. I like your analogy between the burning of the Reichstag and 9/11 and the political changes it triggered, but I do not think you can compare the Nazi terror and the Holocaust with what is going on in the US today.

However, I would definitely agree with you that the US has turned to fascism and is essentially a police state nowadays. One of the big driving forces of this was de facto the war on drugs, whose roots do lie in rascism, religious fanaticism and the thought that political oppression is a necessary tool for keeping society from destroying itself.

The amount of people incarcerated in the US is insane and the two party system makes sure that true change coming from the people is very, very difficult to achieve to say the least. The spying going on in the US today is far beyond what the Nazis ever dreamt of. Police is militarized, authoritarian and quick to pull the trigger. The masses of the people live in (relative) poverty while the elite becomes richer and richer...

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    #18777032 - 08/30/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its not fascistic, Its different, Ever heard of Friedrich von Hayek, his views I think have become very concrete in the USA and UK.


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    #18777058 - 08/30/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18777190 - 08/30/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Although I don't know the exact sequence of events during the Nazi regime, I believe at first the Nazis were just eroding people's rights and centralizing their government in the same way the USA is doing it today - by rallying the nation against a common enemy, after a significant event - like 9/11 or the Reichstag.

Then, when the police state is well developed, when fascism is a reality, atrocities begin, obviously covertly - as someone said, the allies were not aware of the death camps until they discovered them in the territories they conquered.

Therefore, saying that the scale of the atrocities is not comparable is naive because the USA have been dominating the world for around 24 years now. During this period notable wars led by the USA include the Gulf war (against Iraq), the Kosovo war, the war against Afghanistan and the war against Iraq. Just one example of what I am talking about is the fact that between the two wars on Iraq - in the period between around 1991 and around 2003 - there were "sanctions" against the Iraqi government people which led to the preventable deaths of between 100 000 and over 500 000 under 5 year old children. Tell me how that does not compare with Nazi Germany's first steps in genocide.


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    #18777874 - 08/30/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Although I don't know the exact sequence of events during the Nazi regime, I believe at first the Nazis were just eroding people's rights and centralizing their government in the same way the USA is doing it today - by rallying the nation against a common enemy, after a significant event - like 9/11 or the Reichstag.




The Nazis were not an entrenched power before the 30's, so the situation is not comparable. They were a previously obscure group that rode into power atop a wave of popular discontent and political chaos. There were so many competing parties and ideologies in Germany at the time that they won with something like 30% of the popular vote. Furthermore, Hitler's rise to power was accompanied by reprisals and executions of his opponents within his own party.

The Democraps and Republican'ts, on the other hand, have held this country in a circlejerk for many decades, and their behavior is quite predictable. Random political executions do not occur here. Liberties have not been eroded significantly by the war on terror. There is no evidence for death camps in this country, I think it's pretty disingenuous to imply there "might be" just because the German public wasn't aware of their own death camps during WWII. IMO transparency in this country is actually at an all-time high.

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Just one example of what I am talking about is the fact that between the two wars on Iraq - in the period between around 1991 and around 2003 - there were "sanctions" against the Iraqi government people which led to the preventable deaths of between 100 000 and over 500 000 under 5 year old children. Tell me how that does not compare with Nazi Germany's first steps in genocide.




Economic sanctions intended to place pressure upon a tyrannical regime, however unfortunate the unintended consequences (caused actually by the Ba'athists' habit of hoarding resources at the expense of "undesirable" people), are not comparable to the holocaust. As zappaisgod said, I think in this thread, if the intent of the US leadership was to commit genocide against the Iraqi people (or some sub-group thereof), they'd all be dead by now.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18777901 - 08/30/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes:



I really hope your post isn't serious. I respect your intelligence dude, but comparing the USA to Nazi Germany is silly.



really no use in comparing anything with that attitude.

lets just all be as fucked up as one thing or another is, and not question it, right? :shrug:

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    #18777957 - 08/30/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah cause everyone the US killed was carrying an RPG :rolleyes:



I really hope your post isn't serious. I respect your intelligence dude, but comparing the USA to Nazi Germany is silly.



really no use in comparing anything with that attitude.

lets just all be as fucked up as one thing or another is, and not question it, right? :shrug:

:2cents:



don't throw the baby out with the bath water. comparisons are still useful. comparing the USA to nazi germany is like comparing mcdonalds to a filet mignon. they are both food but the comparison is useless. maybe 1 in a million people will choose mcdonalds over the filet mignon


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18778099 - 08/30/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

good point.

both are the same kind of useless comparisons, in my opinion, though.

leaders of US does what people do. leaders of Nazi Germany did what people do, and Germany still does, to this day. continue to make their people satisfied enough that traffic doesn't stop or readily congest; with people ready to confront any problems they have with their leaders.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: morrowasted]
    #18778120 - 08/30/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I hope you people have normalcy bias (this refers to a mental state people enter when facing a disaster) which would imply you at some level in your minds understand you are facing disaster. This happened to the Jews in Germany, in fact this is the first example in the site I used for the definition.

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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: plambe]
    #18778280 - 08/30/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I hope you people have normalcy bias (this refers to a mental state people enter when facing a disaster) which would imply you at some level in your minds understand you are facing disaster. This happened to the Jews in Germany, in fact this is the first example in the site I used for the definition.

People who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.




What bullshit. You yourself admitted you don't understand the chain of events that led up to the holocaust, now you are condescendingly wishing us the best as if all "we people"  who don't know history are about to be rounded up by a shadowy fascist state that you can't describe. It must be fun to bash Americans without any good reason, just because it's fashionable. :dawerp:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18778311 - 08/30/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know I was just going to say it sounds like a few people are just bashing America because thats what everyone is doing, or it being "fashionable".

Also, I cant understand how the op can compare the US to a country that committed genocide murdering millions, in the way that they did it. Yeah Americas done some fucked up shit, but I mean cmon.


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    #18778318 - 08/30/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It is very fashionable in Europe to bash America. They think we stole their culture. As if our ethnic diversity makes us somehow not entitled to it, in spite of the fact that our civil society was established by Europeans. Buncha fuckin' racists out there; the seeds of the holocaust fell on fertile ground, after all.


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    #18778517 - 08/30/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It is very fashionable in Europe to bash America. They think we stole their culture.




It is. They mad, lol. Funny thing is people here could give two shits about fucking Europe.


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    #18778527 - 08/30/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18778946 - 08/30/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Although I don't know the exact sequence of events during the Nazi regime, I believe at first the Nazis were just eroding people's rights and centralizing their government in the same way the USA is doing it today - by rallying the nation against a common enemy, after a significant event - like 9/11 or the Reichstag.




The Nazis were not an entrenched power before the 30's, so the situation is not comparable. They were a previously obscure group that rode into power atop a wave of popular discontent and political chaos. There were so many competing parties and ideologies in Germany at the time that they won with something like 30% of the popular vote. Furthermore, Hitler's rise to power was accompanied by reprisals and executions of his opponents within his own party.






Ernst Julius Günther Röhm (28 November 1887 – 2 July 1934) was a German officer in the Bavarian Army and later an early Nazi leader. He was a co-founder of the Sturmabteilung ("Storm Battalion"; SA),[1] the Nazi Party militia, and later was its commander. In 1934, as part of the Night of the Long Knives, he was executed on Adolf Hitler's orders as a potential rival.

Adolf Hitler moved against the SA and its leader, Ernst Röhm, because he saw the independence of the SA and the penchant of its members for street violence as a direct threat to his newly gained political power. Hitler also wanted to conciliate leaders of the Reichswehr, the official German military who feared and despised the SA—in particular Röhm's ambition to absorb the Reichswehr into the SA under Röhm's leadership. Additionally, Hitler was uncomfortable with Röhm's outspoken support for a "second revolution" to redistribute wealth. (In Röhm's view Hitler's election had accomplished the "nationalistic" revolution but had left unfulfilled the "socialistic" motive in National Socialism.) Finally, Hitler used the purge to attack or eliminate critics of his new regime, especially those loyal to Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen, as well as to settle scores with old enemies

Another reason behind killing Ernst

He was widely known to frequent various gay bars and establishments,was a member of the League and Human rights which was pro homosexual and publicly spoke out against Paragraph 175 of the 1871 laws which stated 'a male who indulges in a criminally indecent activity with another male will be punished by imprisonment'.
Furthermore he is credited with either influencing or writing an anonymous article published in 1932 which stated any nazi who was loyal and fulfilled their duties to the party should be allowed to live private lives of creative eroticism and participate in loving homosexual relationships.A munich paper described Rohm and the SA leadership as 'The Brotherhood of Poofs'


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    #18778951 - 08/30/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That explains why Americans never ever bash Europe.


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    #18778963 - 08/30/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ernst Rohm is one of the more interesting side-notes of Nazi history.


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    #18797076 - 09/03/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It tends to happen when he does the amphetamines.



I have not used any amphetamines or anything else for that matter. In fact I just had some weed and a drink after a +3 months tolerance break.

But yeah nazi shroomery strikes again



You may be right tho, comparing America to nazism/fascism may not be truly accurate. In fact its much worse than that, you control and follow your citizens in an unprecedented manner that the nazis could only dream about. You've got nasty retina scanners that work from +1m distance and face-and-walk recognition software tracking CCTV recordings. Even if you try to be anomymous you'll stand out as one and attract even more attention.

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    #18797160 - 09/03/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It tends to happen when he does the amphetamines.



I have not used any amphetamines or anything else for that matter. In fact I just had some weed and a drink after a +3 months tolerance break.

But yeah nazi shroomery strikes again



You may be right tho, comparing America to nazism/fascism may not be truly accurate. In fact its much worse than that, you control and follow your citizens in an unprecedented manner that the nazis could only dream about. You've got nasty retina scanners that work from +1m distance and face-and-walk recognition software tracking CCTV recordings. Even if you try to be anomymous you'll stand out as one and attract even more attention.

Shroomism and others get it.




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    #18799037 - 09/04/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18799293 - 09/04/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It tends to happen when he does the amphetamines.



I have not used any amphetamines or anything else for that matter. In fact I just had some weed and a drink after a +3 months tolerance break.

But yeah nazi shroomery strikes again



You may be right tho, comparing America to nazism/fascism may not be truly accurate. In fact its much worse than that, you control and follow your citizens in an unprecedented manner that the nazis could only dream about. You've got nasty retina scanners that work from +1m distance and face-and-walk recognition software tracking CCTV recordings. Even if you try to be anomymous you'll stand out as one and attract even more attention.

Shroomism and others get it.




yeah but if you tried to be free in Nazi germany chances are they would instantly imprison you or shoot you.

I totally detest all that shit too believe me, but maybe it is just the externalization of something that was once completely hidden, and so now we have the chance to actually deal with it and fight back against it.


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    #18799725 - 09/04/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

From http://falkvinge.net/2013/08/28/the-first-global-civil-war/:

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40 years ago, two journalists showed the world that the president of the most powerful nation used the Secret Services to wiretap his political opponents. This investigative work granted them the Pulitzer Prize and led to the resignation of the president.

Today, actors empowered by the digital culture show to the world that the president of the same nation wiretaps the whole world! He sends soldiers to cynically kill civilians. Another Pulitzer Prize? No, 35 years in prison for one and a hunt across the world for the other. The president in question, on the contrary, holds a Nobel Peace Prize.



I guess this makes it a bit clearer why a lot of people in the rest of the world consider the USA to be a police state at the moment.


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    #18799785 - 09/04/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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From http://falkvinge.net/2013/08/28/the-first-global-civil-war/:

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40 years ago, two journalists showed the world that the president of the most powerful nation used the Secret Services to wiretap his political opponents. This investigative work granted them the Pulitzer Prize and led to the resignation of the president.

Today, actors empowered by the digital culture show to the world that the president of the same nation wiretaps the whole world! He sends soldiers to cynically kill civilians. Another Pulitzer Prize? No, 35 years in prison for one and a hunt across the world for the other. The president in question, on the contrary, holds a Nobel Peace Prize.



I guess this makes it a bit clearer why a lot of people in the rest of the world consider the USA to be a police state at the moment.



If they consider it a police state it is because they are stupid.  And no, that is not what Woodward and Bernstein exposed.


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Unit 731 was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that undertook lethal human experimentation during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) and World War II. It was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes carried out by Japanese personnel. Unit 731 was based at the Pingfang district of Harbin, the largest city in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo (now Northeast China).

Many of the scientists involved in Unit 731 went on to prominent careers in post-war politics, academia, business, and medicine. Some were arrested by Soviet forces and tried at the Khabarovsk War Crime Trials; others surrendered to the American Forces. It has been postulated that one reason the scientists were not tried was that the information and experience gained in the studies of the biological warfare was of a great value for the United States biological weapons development program. On 6 May 1947, Douglas MacArthur, as Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, wrote to Washington that "additional data, possibly some statements from Ishii probably can be obtained by informing Japanese involved that information will be retained in intelligence channels and will not be employed as 'War Crimes' evidence." The deal was concluded in 1948.

A special project code-named Maruta used human beings for experiments. Test subjects were gathered from the surrounding population and were sometimes referred to euphemistically as "logs" (丸太 maruta?) This term originated as a joke on the part of the staff because the official cover story for the facility given to the local authorities was that it was a lumber mill. In an account by a man who worked as a "junior uniformed civilian employee" of the Japanese Army in Unit 731, the term Maruta came from German, meaning medical experiment, used in such contexts as, "How many logs fell?"

In other tests, subjects were deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death; placed into high-pressure chambers until death; experimented upon to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival; placed into centrifuges and spun until death; injected with animal blood; exposed to lethal doses of x-rays; subjected to various chemical weapons inside gas chambers; injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline; and burned or prematurely buried alive

After Imperial Japan surrendered to the Allies in 1945, Douglas MacArthur became the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers, rebuilding Japan during the Allied occupation. MacArthur secretly granted immunity to the physicians of Unit 731, including their leader, in exchange for providing America, but not the other wartime allies, with their research on biological warfare. American occupation authorities monitored the activities of former unit members, including reading and censoring their mail. The U.S. believed that the research data was valuable. The U.S. did not want other nations, particularly the Soviet Union, to acquire data on biological weapons.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Beefcakemighty]
    #18799900 - 09/04/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, that ban was bullshit.

Where's your freedom of speech now ? :burke:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #18799932 - 09/04/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's cherrypicking. In France they've banned burqas. This goes much further in legally and intentionally repressing an ethnic minority than anything that occurs in the US in this day and age. The statistics on stop-and-frisk are a sign of something very wrong, but it's not comparable even to what France does. :shrug:





No, this is cherrypicking. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and you're making it sound like this law targets muslims as a minority. Truth is, here wearing a kippah, a dastar, a big christian cross, or even a fucking bandana is forbidden, and only in public spaces.

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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Constantine]
    #18799949 - 09/04/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
It's cherrypicking. In France they've banned burqas. This goes much further in legally and intentionally repressing an ethnic minority than anything that occurs in the US in this day and age. The statistics on stop-and-frisk are a sign of something very wrong, but it's not comparable even to what France does. :shrug:





No, this is cherrypicking. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and you're making it sound like this law targets muslims as a minority. Truth is, here wearing a kippah, a dastar, a big christian cross, or even a fucking kerchief is forbidden, and only in public spaces.

:thumbdown:




What?  Link please. 

The statistics on stop and frisk, which is a local program and not national in any way, are racially skewed because they occur in dangerous neighborhoods.  Which are racially skewed.  I'm surpirsed the idiot judge didn't void murder laws since they have a racially disparate impact.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18799958 - 09/04/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This goes much further in legally and intentionally repressing an ethnic minority than anything that occurs in the US in this day and age.




I almost missed that.

When did "Muslim" become an ethnicity?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Constantine]
    #18799959 - 09/04/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
It's cherrypicking. In France they've banned burqas. This goes much further in legally and intentionally repressing an ethnic minority than anything that occurs in the US in this day and age. The statistics on stop-and-frisk are a sign of something very wrong, but it's not comparable even to what France does. :shrug:





No, this is cherrypicking. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and you're making it sound like this law targets muslims as a minority. Truth is, here wearing a kippah, a dastard, a big christian cross, or even a fucking bandana is forbidden, and only in public spaces.

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So it targets religious people generally. I take it you figure that's better somehow?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: psi]
    #18799978 - 09/04/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psi said:
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Constantine said:
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BlindSophist said:
It's cherrypicking. In France they've banned burqas. This goes much further in legally and intentionally repressing an ethnic minority than anything that occurs in the US in this day and age. The statistics on stop-and-frisk are a sign of something very wrong, but it's not comparable even to what France does. :shrug:





No, this is cherrypicking. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and you're making it sound like this law targets muslims as a minority. Truth is, here wearing a kippah, a dastard, a big christian cross, or even a fucking bandana is forbidden, and only in public spaces.

:thumbdown:




So it targets religious people generally. I take it you figure that's better somehow?




Yeah, it is. Think we should allow parents to send their kids to school dressed like this ?




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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Constantine]
    #18800014 - 09/04/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I can't say I can really think of a good reason to limit freedoms in that way.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Constantine]
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Constantine said:
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It's cherrypicking. In France they've banned burqas. This goes much further in legally and intentionally repressing an ethnic minority than anything that occurs in the US in this day and age. The statistics on stop-and-frisk are a sign of something very wrong, but it's not comparable even to what France does. :shrug:





No, this is cherrypicking. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and you're making it sound like this law targets muslims as a minority. Truth is, here wearing a kippah, a dastard, a big christian cross, or even a fucking bandana is forbidden, and only in public spaces.

:thumbdown:




So it targets religious people generally. I take it you figure that's better somehow?




Yeah, it is. Think we should allow parents to send their kids to school dressed like this ?







yeah, why they hell not O.o


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: g00ru]
    #18800033 - 09/04/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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yeah, why they hell not O.o




How would you know it's a kid and not a scumbag masquerading as one?

Could be a kid, could be a short :pedobear:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18800050 - 09/04/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hopefully you could realize quickly enough which one it was

just ask her a question and when it sounds like a man be like...alright buddy, take off the burkha we know you're a pedo


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: g00ru]
    #18800056 - 09/04/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How short-sighted.

Why does it have to be a man?


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18800063 - 09/04/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the point is, know whats under the burkah and its all good lol


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18800081 - 09/04/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The US has gone crazy with everything . Putting bases every were they go looks like they wanna take over the world too .Soo just as bad as Nazi Germany.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18800091 - 09/04/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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g00ru said:
yeah, why they hell not O.o




How would you know it's a kid and not a scumbag masquerading as one?

Could be a kid, could be a short :pedobear:




Fingerprint readers maybe? :lol:

Banning things that obscure the face in certain situations I can see an argument for to some degree, but a blanket ban on religious symbols is something different. Wearing a cross or whatever is no different than wearing clothing that plugs a sports team or a favorite band IMO. If other people can't handle seeing a visual indication that you're into some mundane pastime they're not into, then they can get fucked.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #18800109 - 09/04/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Because that's just the way it is here. When you go to school, you leave your veil (islamic or christian) and your cross at home, and what's wrong with that, in my opinion religion has nothing to do in schools, there's churches, mosques, and synagogues for that.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Constantine]
    #18800118 - 09/04/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I thought you said it was all public spaces, not just schools. To each their own I suppose, glad I don't live there though.


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g00ru said:
yeah, why they hell not O.o




How would you know it's a kid and not a scumbag masquerading as one?

Could be a kid, could be a short :pedobear:




Fingerprint readers maybe? :lol:

Banning things that obscure the face in certain situations I can see an argument for to some degree, but a blanket ban on religious symbols is something different. Wearing a cross or whatever is no different than wearing clothing that plugs a sports team or a favorite band IMO. If other people can't handle seeing a visual indication that you're into some mundane pastime they're not into, then they can get fucked.




I didn't argue for a blanket ban on religious symbols. You should be able to wear just about anything you wish.

Face coverings are not one of those things. It's a public safety issue.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Constantine]
    #18800133 - 09/04/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Because that's just the way it is here. When you go to school, you leave your veil (islamic or christian) and your cross at home, and what's wrong with that, in my opinion religion has nothing to do in schools, there's churches, mosques, and synagogues for that.




i'm just against censorship in general, i guess they have their reasons in schools but if i were principal i'd let people wear what they want, i think it fosters a more creative environment.

either that or force people to wear uniforms (which usually happens at religious schools ironically)


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Soon France will be a muslim nation unless they tighten up border controls.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: psi]
    #18800145 - 09/04/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I thought you said it was all public spaces, not just schools. To each their own I suppose, glad I don't live there though.




Officially it is, but there's over 5 million muslims here and even more christians, so obviously it's not heavily enforced in public spaces (but it is in schools).


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Banning things that obscure the face in certain situations I can see an argument for to some degree, but a blanket ban on religious symbols is something different. Wearing a cross or whatever is no different than wearing clothing that plugs a sports team or a favorite band IMO. If other people can't handle seeing a visual indication that you're into some mundane pastime they're not into, then they can get fucked.




I didn't argue for a blanket ban on religious symbols. You should be able to wear just about anything you wish.

Face coverings are not one of those things. It's a public safety issue.




:nodofunderstanding:
Yeah fair enough, I can respect that reasoning.

I realize you never advocated targeting religious symbols generally for a ban, someone else had brought it up.


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I can respect that reasoning.




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    #18800594 - 09/04/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hopefully you could realize quickly enough which one it was

just ask her a question and when it sounds like a man be like...alright buddy, take off the burkha we know you're a pedo




Have you ever seen a person in a full burqua? All you can see are eyes. There was a girl in my organic chem lab that wore a full burqua. Nothing but eyes, not even eyebrows. She was like an organic chem ninja.


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hopefully you could realize quickly enough which one it was

just ask her a question and when it sounds like a man be like...alright buddy, take off the burkha we know you're a pedo




Have you ever seen a person in a full burqua? All you can see are eyes. There was a girl in my organic chem lab that wore a full burqua. Nothing but eyes, not even eyebrows. She was like an organic chem ninja.




We get a lot of burqas in the bay area.

It's kinda weird, but I like smiling at them and seeing if I can see their eyes smile back... :lol:


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g00ru said:
hopefully you could realize quickly enough which one it was

just ask her a question and when it sounds like a man be like...alright buddy, take off the burkha we know you're a pedo




Have you ever seen a person in a full burqua? All you can see are eyes. There was a girl in my organic chem lab that wore a full burqua. Nothing but eyes, not even eyebrows. She was like an organic chem ninja.




We get a lot of burqas in the bay area.

It's kinda weird, but I like smiling at them and seeing if I can see their eyes smile back... :lol:



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    #18801148 - 09/04/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

doubt it m8. i think we will be all wiccan m8.


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doubt it m8. i think we will be all wiccan m8.




I think this is probably true, actually.

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doubt it m8. i think we will be all wiccan m8.








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I bet those guys can't even read English. :lol:



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    #18801572 - 09/04/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

just think the first radio signals that aliens would be most likely to intercept would be when hitler broadcasted the olympics over radiowaves to 40 different countries:shrug: hero? maybe haha jk


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    #18801953 - 09/05/13 03:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can validate that that english translation indeed very closely matches his actual german speech (yay for trilingualism!) but you have to see that speech in context. Its a war speech apoken while invading and taking over countries, while most institutionalized handicapped people had already been gassed and jews were being murdered because of their ethnicity in a deliberate genocidal program.  And he knew all that and orchestrated it. Dont put Hitler on a pedestal unless you intend to kick him off it with a noose around his neck. Him making an intellectually stimulating analysis of President Roosevelt's alleged intentions and actions does not redeem him in the least.

Of course Hitler was no fool and the Germans were no fools either. They were one of the world superpowers at the time.


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: Asante]
    #18801982 - 09/05/13 03:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Him making an intellectually stimulating analysis of President Roosevelt's alleged intentions and actions does not redeem him in the least.



Nobody claimed that.

On a side note I think the nazis had the best uniforms of them all.


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    #18801996 - 09/05/13 03:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know, just sayin as the vid with the music and all that is a bit rosy regarding this awful man

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I think the nazis had the best uniforms of them all.




Hugo Boss designed them. They could use an ad slogan (Hugo Boss - We Can Even Make The Nazis Look Good)  but for some reason its a chapter of their history that they rather not talk about.


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    #18802051 - 09/05/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well they got style. Nobody can deny that :hitlerdance:


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    #18803235 - 09/05/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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    #18806181 - 09/06/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Hugo Boss designed them. They could use an ad slogan (Hugo Boss - We Can Even Make The Nazis Look Good)  but for some reason its a chapter of their history that they rather not talk about.



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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18806186 - 09/06/13 04:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

why is this thread still alive.

its based on a false premise in the OP

fuck the Nazis


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    #18806252 - 09/06/13 05:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fuck the Nazis










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    #18806431 - 09/06/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gumby said:
It tends to happen when he does the amphetamines.



I have not used any amphetamines or anything else for that matter. In fact I just had some weed and a drink after a +3 months tolerance break.

But yeah nazi shroomery strikes again



You may be right tho, comparing America to nazism/fascism may not be truly accurate. In fact its much worse than that, you control and follow your citizens in an unprecedented manner that the nazis could only dream about. You've got nasty retina scanners that work from +1m distance and face-and-walk recognition software tracking CCTV recordings. Even if you try to be anomymous you'll stand out as one and attract even more attention.

Shroomism and others get it.




This would be hilarious if you happened to British, considering how much more advanced a police state the UK is.


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    #18806966 - 09/06/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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why is this thread still alive.




Cause the nazis rock, problem? :trollhide:


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    #18807143 - 09/06/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It took me so long to get this. His face is so serious that I did not make the connection to :datass:


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Re: Who is worse? America or Nazi Gemany? [Re: koods]
    #18810480 - 09/07/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
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Gumby said:
It tends to happen when he does the amphetamines.



I have not used any amphetamines or anything else for that matter. In fact I just had some weed and a drink after a +3 months tolerance break.

But yeah nazi shroomery strikes again



You may be right tho, comparing America to nazism/fascism may not be truly accurate. In fact its much worse than that, you control and follow your citizens in an unprecedented manner that the nazis could only dream about. You've got nasty retina scanners that work from +1m distance and face-and-walk recognition software tracking CCTV recordings. Even if you try to be anomymous you'll stand out as one and attract even more attention.

Shroomism and others get it.




This would be hilarious if you happened to British, considering how much more advanced a police state the UK is.




He is. :lol:


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