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Casing gone wrong?
    #18767896 - 08/28/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello, im new to the casing, and did all my grows using the pf tek, but since i wasnt satisfied with the yield i went over to the casing.
Thats my first casing, i used a thin dlayer of vermicullite to cover the ground area, than i put in the spawn, and covered it with a mix of cactussoil and vermicullite, as soon as the spawn went through the casing i put it in the monotub, now 7 days later still no pins break through.
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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18767914 - 08/28/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well at least your first post wasn't a horrible massacre of the rules, and you already got experience.
Welcome, looking forward to the pics.

For clarity sake,
Type of spawn?
Did you pasteurize the "casing"?

And it sounds like your casing is a substrate...


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: blojo02184]
    #18784360 - 09/01/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you for welcome me..
Its a psilocybe cubensis strain and yes the casing was pasteurozized.


the pins already break through and it looks good so far, no visible contaminents, BUT its a strange smell, different to the smell of the pf tek i used before..
Its sort of a sour smell..so what is that supposed to mean?
This actually looks like a real nice flush, it would be shame if i had to throw it in the trash can.

EDIT:
I removed the casing and took another sniff, it seems that the strange smell comes from the monotub, the casing itself smells fine so far...just like mushrooms placed in a forest, i just love that smell...


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18784411 - 09/01/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So your saying, that your monotub has a casing layer? What did you use for a casing?

If it's a funny smell, keep a very keen eye on things. Smells are usually the first sign of a contaminant.

And, really.... Are you talking about substrate or casing? You don't case cubes.


Go find the definitions page, look up casing and substrate. Figure out what your trying to say bcuz I can't understand it.


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: blojo02184]
    #18784688 - 09/01/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well, i put the casing in the monotub after the mycelium break through the cactussoil( the toplayer)
Whats wrong about a casing in a monotub?
It gets fresh air, the moisture stays in the tub, i dont have to mist or fan it, correct me if im wrong, or is a monotub something different?


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18784695 - 09/01/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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you lost me in translation.


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: blojo02184]
    #18857222 - 09/18/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, the first casing was a bit unsatisfied.
So now i started a new one, and put the colonized substrate in my fruiting chamber, and now after 10 days of waiting, still no pins to see.. its a bit frustrating and im wondering if its wasted already, better should stuck with the pf tek, much more simple for Noobs like me..
I also noticed some roundish looking mycelium, looks like white stones, just like the perlite, strange, never noticed before...

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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18858980 - 09/18/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's a bit hard to tell from the pics as they're a little blurry, BUT that casing looks very moist/wet.

So you took a mono-tub then put some perlite in it like a SGFC, is that correct?

Seeing the amount of moisture on the casing, and lack of vent holes makes me think there's not enough FAE going through there to properly evaporate all that moisture in the casing.

I bet if you drill out that mono-tub to SGFC specs, you'd see pins pretty quick. That mycelium looks like it's got a clean hold of the casing.

At the very least, fan a lot more.


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: FunnyLight]
    #18861884 - 09/19/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for your support in helping me further,
No, i got rid of the Monotub (tek)?
SO i simply put the casings in a terrarium with perlite, and a few holes.
Too wet? Ok.. i thought it would probably be to dry so i sprayed water everyday, but i will stop now fan a bit more, and see what happens, how do i know that my casing looks to wet or dry?
How does the casing look anyways, healthy or probably not well colonized?


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18865700 - 09/19/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think the main thing here is FAE. You've got a few holes in the terrarium, but you really need a LOT.

a 1/4" hole (6.35mm) every 2" (50.4mm) in grid pattern on all 6 sides of the plastic tote.

Weather or not the casings are too dry is really hard to tell. The pics are kind of blurry, so what I'm going off of is the casings looking a bit too "soupy". The casings should be moist, but not necessarily soaking with water.

Keep misting lightly a couple times a day, increase your fanning, and drill a lot more holes.

The casing colonization looks great to me from what I can tell. That's about how you want it.


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: FunnyLight]
    #18874604 - 09/22/13 03:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, fae seems to be very important..
After about 12 days after putting the casings in the fruit chamber the first pinheads appeared, is that the usual timelapse, for pinheads to appear?
I remember using the pf tek, the pinheads appeared previously.
But i seem to have alot of aborts for what i can tell, also i noticed a small film covering a few of my pinheads, wonder what that could be?
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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18874651 - 09/22/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Please, use the correct terms so we can understand each other. Those are not "casings" but "trays". A casing is a completely different thing.

Anyway looks like you'll have mature fruits in 3-6 days, depending on your temps :thumbup:


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #18876823 - 09/22/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Leopard,
In this case, he's actually cased his spawn w/ cactus soil and vermiculite.

What he was using as spawn hasn't been clarified.

Beown,
What did you use as your spawn? Colonized BRF cakes, or did you get grain jars to colonize?
You will notice some aborts, this happens.
I am not sure what the thin film you talk about is on your mushrooms. I can't tell from the pics if there is anything. If it smells good, then don't worry about it.

Please, Please, please, Don't post blurry pics that don't show anything. A few clear (or as clear as you can get) pics is 100 times better then a dozen blurry ones.


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: FunnyLight]
    #18876859 - 09/22/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

FunnyLight said:
Leopard,
In this case, he's actually cased his spawn w/ cactus soil and vermiculite.

What he was using as spawn hasn't been clarified.




Really? Then I have to give up cause I can't understand what he is saying :lol:


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #18879675 - 09/23/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, i thank you for your patience in helping me in order for worldwide mushroom domination..hehe
I used grain jars.
Im sorry for the lack of my picturequality, but i guess my mobilephone aint got the best nice camera,
Im also wondering about the ph value on the casing, as far as i know mushrooms prefer a basic ph value, instead of acidic ph value..and i didnt add any lime on the cactussoil/vermi mix, might this also be a problem?


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18881189 - 09/23/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've never used cactus soil for my casings but I wouldn't worry about PH that much since you already have healthy pins in your trays. Just provide those trays with correct fruiting conditions, i.e. plenty of FAE and high RH :thumbup:


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #18884012 - 09/24/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, one last thing, their is one pin that really worrys me, everything else looks fine it has a strange color from the beginning of the fruiting process, but just compare to the other pins growing next to it, again im sorry for the bad quality, but i aint go no better camera atm:



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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18884031 - 09/24/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see anything that worries me man. Just keep calm and relaxed :jah: You did a good job.


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18884042 - 09/24/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

god damned! i just watched again and it seems like the surface surrounding the shroom looks like green mold, you wont notice this on the pic and im not quite sure yet, since its really difficutlt to distinguish between green mold and the typical blue psilocybe ye but the shroom looks different to the others, i could cry..
If im right, i guess i gotta remove the tray completely, but what about the other tray inside the terrarium, looks fine so far..


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Re: Casing gone wrong? [Re: Beown1337]
    #18884051 - 09/24/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

alright, i guess i leave it as it is, only time will tell...


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