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gun debate... 9mm
    #18763411 - 08/27/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

there seems to be quite a bit of gun talk lately and one thing ive noticed is most talk down on 9mm. apparently their stopping power isnt worth a damn and can be compared to a .22. i always hear the same thing,

"there are stories all over the net stating how people are shot multiple times with a 9mm and walk away."

i have to strongly disagree.

when it comes to pistols, the range of target whether it be a paper target or an intruder/ deadly threat should not be any further than 25 feet. you can step back a bit further to really see what your gun can do, but 25 feet is ideal.

if i needed to i could take someones life with 3 shots. 2 in the chest and 1 in the head. i have shot plenty of times and am confident in my aiming. i could do the same with a 40 and a 45. i feel more comfortable with a 9 only because it has less of a recoil.

i honestly think a 9mm is just as good, if not better, then a higher cal, if shot properly.

excuse my elementary debating skills. i dropped out of 3rd grade because of recess. i dont play...


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: current]
    #18763453 - 08/27/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Let this guy influence your opinion


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: current]
    #18763474 - 08/27/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

"stopping power" :rolleyes:


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18763494 - 08/27/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

you know what i mean...


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: current]
    #18763829 - 08/27/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Op sounds like my :cop: brother.


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #18763868 - 08/27/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: current]
    #18763874 - 08/27/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

These are funny, and will probably cover this thread...

9mm Guns and the People who Carry Them


.45 acp Guns and The People Who Carry Them


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: 4runner]
    #18763888 - 08/27/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

when people say stopping power do they mean like when a girl walks past,
she sees the shooter and just freezes because of the total awesomeness of it?


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: 4runner]
    #18764254 - 08/27/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

those were actually great videos! thanks for that.


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: current]
    #18764415 - 08/27/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

current said:
there seems to be quite a bit of gun talk lately and one thing ive noticed is most talk down on 9mm. apparently their stopping power isnt worth a damn and can be compared to a .22. i always hear the same thing,

"there are stories all over the net stating how people are shot multiple times with a 9mm and walk away."

i have to strongly disagree.







you want 'stopping power', go for the .50BMG or any rifle round above the .30
cal, maybe chamber a pistol for the 700 nitro express, otherwise you're just
putting holes in things and they're still most likely going to die

but really, someone shot more than 20 times by the fucking cops and lives
to sue or be prosecuted, disagree all you want, it happens, it's documented,
it can happen with any caliber just as any caliber can be lethal


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18764426 - 08/27/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

so it boils down to the shooter himself...


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18764471 - 08/27/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Those fucking cops need to spend a little more time at the range...:yesnod: . . . :peace:


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18767165 - 08/28/13 04:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:

you want 'stopping power', go for the .50BMG or any rifle round above the .30
cal, maybe chamber a pistol for the 700 nitro express, otherwise you're just
putting holes in things and they're still most likely going to die






This .50 magnum looks pretty stopping to me..





That looks like it would mess up your whole day.


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: Asante]
    #18767266 - 08/28/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

damn that magnum is bad ass, imagine what that thing would do to someones head!


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: Soulidarity]
    #18767293 - 08/28/13 05:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:header: . . . :peace:


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: current]
    #18767366 - 08/28/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

current said:

if i needed to i could take someones life with 3 shots. 2 in the chest and 1 in the head. i have shot plenty of times and am confident in my aiming. i could do the same with a 40 and a 45. i feel more comfortable with a 9 only because it has less of a recoil.






1. Sitting in your bedroom watching TV, yes you can do that. Face to face is another thing.

2. During your shooting practice was anyone shooting back?


Edited by sweeper54 (08/28/13 06:46 AM)


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: sweeper54]
    #18767395 - 08/28/13 07:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

no, but i def shoot from all sorts of different positions. laying down, sitting down, squatting, running, my back to a tree then turn and shoot, pulling from my holster, and sometimes, ill lay the gun down and step back a bit then run up to the gun and fire.

i practice on speed and accuracy. i also practice shooting with it loaded and one in the chamber and i practice with loading the clip, cocking it and shooting.

to be honest, i havnt shot in awhile since prices on ammo is ridiculous. i have plenty of ammo, but i def cant afford to waste it.


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: current]
    #18767404 - 08/28/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My .22lr rifle is 10x deadlier than any .45 out there because of one thing. shot placement.

pop 10 rounds into someones leg shoulder thigh rib abdoment etc... they might live.
place 1 round into the ear, lungs, forehead, neck artery, they're goin down.

round size does matter but not nearly as much as the skill of the shooter. An ace shot with a 9mm or .22 pistol is way deadlier than some city street wannabe gangsta with .45 or 357mag


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: nuentoter]
    #18767421 - 08/28/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

my points exactly, but at the same time, give a 45 to a skilled shooter and its over.

my chick actually carries a 40 and she gives me a hard time about my 9 all the time, but ive shot hers quite a few times and i still prefer my 9. my 9 is also a compact which is a plus for me. for being a compact, it sure is accurate... or maybe its just me. either way, i think it all depends on the shooter.

.22 skilled vs a .45  :trippingsheens:

i mean... come on.


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Re: gun debate... 9mm [Re: current]
    #18767430 - 08/28/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

current said:
no, but i def shoot from all sorts of different positions. laying down, sitting down, squatting, running, my back to a tree then turn and shoot, pulling from my holster, and sometimes, ill lay the gun down and step back a bit then run up to the gun and fire.

i practice on speed and accuracy. i also practice shooting with it loaded and one in the chamber and i practice with loading the clip, cocking it and shooting.

to be honest, i havnt shot in awhile since prices on ammo is ridiculous. i have plenty of ammo, but i def cant afford to waste it.




That's great and wonderful, but if you haven't had to fire that gun in anger with lead coming your way, 2 in the chest 1 in the head in a fantasy. It may end up a mouth full of dirt and shit in the pants.


Edited by sweeper54 (08/28/13 07:35 AM)


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