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R4V4N4
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Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet?
#18766751 - 08/28/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I was exploring the Labyrinth last night and I saw a post saying that if your growing in a large bag and the air temperature is 60 degrees it could be 85 degrees at the core of the bag? If this is true how do you know you have a large bag?
Bags will not grow at 75-80 degrees because its too hot?
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Re: Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet? [Re: R4V4N4]
#18766760 - 08/28/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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R4V4N4 said: Bags will not grow at 75-80 degrees because its too hot?
Not true at all, for tropical species anyways.
What species are you referring to?
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Re: Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet? [Re: PussyFart]
#18766799 - 08/28/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am talking cubensis my good sir
But what I am trying to say is if the air temp is 75-80 it could be 100-105 in the bag
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Re: Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet? [Re: R4V4N4]
#18766803 - 08/28/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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R4V4N4 said: I am talking cubensis my good sir
But what I am trying to say is if the air temp is 75-80 it could be 100-105 in the bag
No way.
I cannot even see a monotub putting out that much heat.
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
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Re: Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet? [Re: PussyFart]
#18766810 - 08/28/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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not a tub a bag
RR was saying that large bags need to be at 60 because it is hotter inside and would be 85 at the core if at 60
err I notice now you included bags
RR said 60...
I have worked with compost before and it gets really hot to the core I always thought it was the bugs and bacteria but maybe fungus too?
perhaps its greenhousing?
Edited by R4V4N4 (08/28/13 12:53 AM)
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Re: Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet? [Re: R4V4N4]
#18766915 - 08/28/13 01:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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R4V4N4 said: RR was saying that large bags need to be at 60 because it is hotter inside and would be 85 at the core
Got a link?
Because i doubt he said that.
The info above is accurate for cubes.
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Re: Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet? [Re: PussyFart]
#18767016 - 08/28/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by R4V4N4 (08/28/13 02:10 AM)
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Re: Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet? [Re: R4V4N4]
#18767025 - 08/28/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My monotubs and jars colonize and fruit fine at 80F.
I doubt a spawn bag puts out more heat than a tub.
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Edited by PussyFart (08/28/13 02:16 AM)
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Re: Is it cold enough to grow mushrooms yet? [Re: PussyFart]
#18767060 - 08/28/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i doubt it too but perhaps if one is using colonies of a gallon or more. I have seen video of farmers grow with what appear to be 12 lb bags.
in cases like this I think RR may be correct because 1 RR said it
and 2 unsterilized compost produces heat
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