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PsilocybinMiazma
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Only pinning on bottom of casing, what to do?
#18766282 - 08/27/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So my buddy had 2 fully colonized BRF jars that sat for probably 4-6 weeks after full colonization. They were cut in half, cased in verm and put in 3 translucent tupperware trays, incubated for a week and fruited into a shotgun terrarium. It has been over a week in the fruiting chamber with no pins and very little myc on top. However if you look at the bottom, the myc has spread very little, but each half cake has small pins around it. One even has a thumbnail sized cap, but looks like it will never make it out. I know he shouldn't have had clear trays or let the jars sit so long, but how can he fix it? Could the cake be exhausted due to sitting too long while colonized? Should he take them out of the trays and prop them up on their side? Maybe just scrape the casing off? Any ideas would be great, they just don't look like anything will grow anywhere but the bottom.
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TheStormsEye
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Re: Only pinning on bottom of casing, what to do? [Re: PsilocybinMiazma]
#18766472 - 08/27/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The color of the "tray" doesn't matter too much.. It sounds like your trays didn't become colonized at all, only cut cakes surrounded by substrate? I'm not too sure what you have going on here but it sounds like YOU need to just start over, or take the cakes out and fruit them as normal as possible..
..and stop calling yourself "he"
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Edited by TheStormsEye (09/05/13 12:56 PM)
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mastercultivator
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Re: Only pinning on bottom of casing, what to do? [Re: PsilocybinMiazma]
#18766493 - 08/27/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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PM,
I'm sorry you have pins on the bottom and not the top. The environment for the primodia (baby mushroom pins) to form was most favorable between the substrate and tupperware on the bottom. It had light and humidity. It's most probable from what you described that the top surface had a chance to dry from time to time or is dry.
Digging out the mushrooms or compromising the cohesiveness of the substrate can lead to contaminations gaining a foothold. Make a monotub if you have one, use polyfil holes, put perlite on the bottom of it or something that will increase the humidity, and flip your small tupperware substrates on it.
This is my recommendation to try and save it.
If it were me I'd dig out the mushrooms and toss it and start over. But you are still learning so chalk it up as a learning experience. [use this as an opportunity to learn and understand the life behaviors of the fungus]
Wish you the best.
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Edited by mastercultivator (08/27/13 11:12 PM)
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NagualaPawer
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Re: Only pinning on bottom of casing, what to do? [Re: PsilocybinMiazma]
#18767460 - 08/28/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
PsilocybinMiazma said: So my buddy had 2 fully colonized BRF jars that sat for probably 4-6 weeks after full colonization. They were cut in half, cased in verm and put in 3 translucent tupperware trays, incubated for a week and fruited into a shotgun terrarium. It has been over a week in the fruiting chamber with no pins and very little myc on top. However if you look at the bottom, the myc has spread very little, but each half cake has small pins around it. One even has a thumbnail sized cap, but looks like it will never make it out. I know he shouldn't have had clear trays or let the jars sit so long, but how can he fix it? Could the cake be exhausted due to sitting too long while colonized? Should he take them out of the trays and prop them up on their side? Maybe just scrape the casing off? Any ideas would be great, they just don't look like anything will grow anywhere but the bottom.
Dude use some format please!
you can wait for those to get biger or... carefully remove the cake from tray, remove the mushrooms, and dunk, then fruit and dont let the top get dry.
why toss the cake when just been bad manteined? better fix it.
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mpd
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Re: Only pinning on bottom of casing, what to do? [Re: NagualaPawer]
#18767499 - 08/28/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You do as you see fit, OP, but I would just start the fuck right over. I don't put up with any bullshit in my tub. Then again, I had some mad pinning and growth on the bottom not too long ago and I just harvested all of them and went on with my day.
Casings need some hydration to be sure, so don't let yours just dry up on you.
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1234go
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Re: Only pinning on bottom of casing, what to do? [Re: mpd]
#18767532 - 08/28/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Take what you have, crumble it up and take it outside to a nice moist shady spot and water it a little everyday. I've been VERY surprised sometimes after doing this.... but I've also been bummed. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
But anyway, it does sound like the pins were forming where the conditions were ideal. Too dry and not enugh air exchange on the surface perhaps?
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PsilocybinMiazma
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Re: Only pinning on bottom of casing, what to do? [Re: PsilocybinMiazma]
#18771475 - 08/29/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks everybody, I'v personally never had to deal with that situation so I wasn't sure how to address it. I'll tell my friend about his options and see what he wants to do. I gave him a couple jars and told him to visit this site, and let em do it himself. I'm sure he will learn. You were all very helpful. Except for you StormsEye, you can go f*ck yourself with your assumptions and lack of input.
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