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trippinballs420
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Re: cocaine epidemic [Re: deCypher]
#18753974 - 08/25/13 03:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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dude those stats are WAY off, you and i both know that...are you fucking kidding? 13.5 million people are probably prescribed opiates in florida alone (okay a bit of an exaggeration but you get the point) that fucking website has this story from an "LSD ADDICT" Quote:
“At 13 years of age I took my first drink and soon after was introduced to marijuana. Then LSD quickly fell into my hands and I became addicted, eating it like candy. “One night during one of my binges I blacked out and awoke with blood all over my face and vomit coming out of my mouth. By some miracle I pulled myself awake and cleaned myself up. I got into the car, shaking, drove to my parent’s house. I climbed into bed with my mom and cried.
“By the age of 21, I checked into my first rehab.” —Donna
so your source is pretty much invalid IMO
and im not counting amphetamines, which they would be, and you are, like a college kid cramming for a final taking an adderall....they count that as amphetamine abuse. as far as other countries are concerned, meth isnt nearly as big of a problem as in the US....and meth is really hard to find in certain parts of the country, while IME heroin makes its rounds to basically everywhere
i do believe opiates are much less damaging to the body physiologically, but i call 100000% bullshit on those numbers from that study.
i think epidemic wise opiates take it hands down....never seen so many 14 year old kids from good rich suburban families go down the heroin line.....and i have actually never known a meth addict from my area
so at least where im from, meth is a non issue and opiates are a fucking MASSIVE problem......but in bumblefuck, tennessee thats probably a different story 
how about a real source?
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More than 12 million people reported using prescription painkillers nonmedically in 2010, that is, using them without a prescription or for the feeling they cause.
http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/rxbrief/ and thats just in the US
yeah....im sure only 13.5 million people abuse opiates
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abltsandwich
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I think it's highly variable man honestly. Within my own city there are places where one drug is more prevalent than others. Honestly I think meth has a higher propensity to destroy lives MUCH more quickly versus opiates tend to be more of a slow burn. But meth withdrawals are like sleeping for like 3 days and that's pretty much it. Opiates can take months of clean time before the bone aches and arm/leg twitches dissipate completely.
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deCypher



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Those stats come from actual research studies. Here's another link if you're curious: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/faqs/
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There are some observers who say the meth problem is blown out of proportion because the number of meth-related drug treatment admissions, seizures, and fatalities are relatively few when compared to those for heroin or cocaine. However, meth's impact on families and communities is much more devastating.
In 2005 it was reported that 58 percent of law enforcement officials in 500 counties surveyed by the National Association of Counties cite methamphetamine as their biggest drug problem. Half in the sample said that up to 20 percent of their inmates were incarcerated because of meth-related crimes, and some segments representing small counties and areas in the upper Midwest reported as many as 75 to 100 percent of their incarcerations as meth-related.
While that survey drew on a disproportionate number of counties in the West where meth is most widely available, the National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC) in February 2005, published results from a larger, random sample of 3,400 drug enforcement agencies nationwide. In the NDIC survey, for the first time since they have been taking such surveys, a plurality (40 percent) considered meth their leading drug threat. Cocaine came in second at 36 percent, and marijuana at 12 percent.
The international picture is also troubling. According to the United Nations, meth is today the most abused hard drug on earth; the world's 26 million meth addicts equals the combined number for cocaine and heroin abusers.
Just because your friends have had more of a problem with heroin than meth doesn't mean that the same is true for America at large--and I dare you to find a single research stat that shows that there are more heroin users than meth. Not to mention none of this goes against what I was saying; namely that meth is far more damaging to the brain and body than heroin is, and since it's far more prevalent in the US than heroin is, the consequences are therefore much more destructive. 
If you want to bring in prescription drug abuse on the opiate side then I think it's only fair to bring in prescription drug abuse on the meth side (namely Adderall). But we were originally just talking about meth and heroin, not Adderall and/or oxycodone.
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trippinballs420
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Re: cocaine epidemic [Re: deCypher]
#18754058 - 08/25/13 04:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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but the average abuser of prescription amphetamines is using it for completely different reasons than the average abuser of prescription opiates
but regardless, i agree meth is much much much worse for your body,however i believe we are in more of an opiate epidemic, at least in the places ive lived, than a meth epidemic, tho i believe that isnt too far behind heroin, but i do think cocaine is way behind in the epidemic factor
also i was looking for surveys and studies and shit, everyone says different numbers i guess asking people about their illegal actions doesnt always get the most honest answers....especially when it comes to drugs that make you look like a scumbag
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topdog82
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I said this before and I will say it again. I think that ecstasy will be a problem in the coming years
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Re: cocaine epidemic [Re: topdog82]
#18758703 - 08/26/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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In what way out of curiousity? I can't imagine massive amounts of people forming hardcore addictions to mdma, sure people abuse it, but I imagine that if there will be a problem it's just going to be impure bunk shit flooding the market to an even greater extent due to a new boost in popularity.
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Re: cocaine epidemic [Re: Ogla]
#18758852 - 08/26/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cokes popular, but it was more so popular in the 80's and 70's. People have way more options now when it comes to drugs.
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topdog82
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fapjack said: Cokes popular, but it was more so popular in the 80's and 70's. People have way more options now when it comes to drugs.
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pirate-blues said: In what way out of curiousity? I can't imagine massive amounts of people forming hardcore addictions to mdma, sure people abuse it, but I imagine that if there will be a problem it's just going to be impure bunk shit flooding the market to an even greater extent due to a new boost in popularity.
Because at the current prices (maybe its just my area) rolling balls all night is wayyyyy cheaper and more enjoyable than being coked out all night. Finding pure shit is hard I guess. But methylone replacing molly on the streets isnt the issue here
Also, ecstasy is hitting mainstream with EDM culture springing up. IMO EDM festivals are funner when tripping balls but that really ocmes down to persnal preference. Anyways, I see EDM getting way bigger in the upcoming years. And EDM has exploded in the past 2-3 years already. Even rap music has been increasingly mentioning ecstasy. When a drug becomes mainstream like that, regardless of its abuse potential i feel it will become a prblem. Look at weed. In my high school so many kids lost their entire future to blunts and 40's. Obviously weed isnt very harmful or adictive at all. It is just that it is the most socially acceptable and widely used. Hence it will cause the most problems
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Psilosopherr
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Re: cocaine epidemic [Re: topdog82]
#18759242 - 08/26/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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where i am coke is cheaper than MDMA. and mdma is like hardly ever available.
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trippinballs420
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yeah, coke is WAY cheaper than molly where im at as well.
epidemic wise i still think opiates take the cake for the moment
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Yeah but what about this marihuana epidemic? These kids are smokin reefers all over the place.
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luvdemboomers
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Over here on the east coast it seems like there is an opiate epidemic. Not much meth around here, though I'm sure things are different on the west coast.
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Re: cocaine epidemic [Re: Niffla]
#18759403 - 08/26/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahhhhh I love stories like that, they just feel so deep when you hear about them...
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ganjfather
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It's all meth and molly around here. Any coke you can find will be cut to shit and twice as expensive as anywhere else.
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trippinballs420
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the blow here is pretty fuckin cut, but at 100-120 a ball you cant really complain and you can always wash it, for that cheap its kinda worth it.
but molly is running 80-120 a g depending on quality and who you know
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ganjfather
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Yeah, the blow here is 80-100 a gram and it is such shitty quality... def not worth it under any circumstance.
As for molly, you can get some fire molly for 80 a gram and that shit runs rampant.
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Molly's been more recent but some people in the scene would just chomp extacy pills for like 20 dollars a pop.
They wouldn't deny any thing people said about them.
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morrowasted
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ganjfather said: Yeah, the blow here is 80-100 a gram and it is such shitty quality... def not worth it under any circumstance.
As for molly, you can get some fire molly for 80 a gram and that shit runs rampant.
opposite in houston. fire coke @ $40/gram. shitty molly @ $100/g
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Psilosopherr
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trippinballs420 said: the blow here is pretty fuckin cut, but at 100-120 a ball you cant really complain and you can always wash it, for that cheap its kinda worth it.
but molly is running 80-120 a g depending on quality and who you know
of course! I needa look up a cocaine purifying tek immediately.
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Re: cocaine epidemic [Re: Niffla]
#18764300 - 08/27/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Niffla said: In my opinion coke is an evil, evil drug, lol. And I say this from experience.
I would say the opposite, from experience.
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