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help with identification please :)
    #18763993 - 08/27/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

found in a grassy area by pine trees... just wondering what they are


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Re: help with identification please :) [Re: StonedPrimate]
    #18764014 - 08/27/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Psathyrella candolleana sensu lato.


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Re: help with identification please :) [Re: Byrain]
    #18765951 - 08/27/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I agree on the Psathyrella candoleana.  easy one. nice pics


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Re: help with identification please :) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #18766014 - 08/27/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Psathyrella candoleana.  easy one.




I guess that is if you think all the species separated based on breeding studies are synonymous, which as far as I know could be true!  Though that doesn't answer the question if this P. candolleana is the same as these observations...  Are differences in Q value of the spores and the amount of outer veil (On the cap surface) enough to distinguish different species?  How about habitat being natural vs. urban?  And how about the type variety Smith mentioned from Europe that is not supposed to have an outer veil?  :smile:


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Re: help with identification please :) [Re: Byrain]
    #18766034 - 08/27/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's exactly the Psathyrella candolleana I'm personally most familiar with.  But i suppose I MIGHT have been misinformed for years on it.  I was calling Panaeolus Cinctulus "p. Subbaltaetus" for a very long time after all :smile:


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Re: help with identification please :) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #18766095 - 08/27/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

For the record I'm not saying you're wrong, just sharing some of the difficulties I've found when using this name. :smile:  And yea, it looks like the common urban P. candolleana with a rudimentary outer veil I see all the time too, like the last 3 MO obs I linked.


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