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Patlal
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The world will now interfere in Syria
#18763374 - 08/27/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's about time cause shit has been going on for too long but there's are many problems to think about.
#1: Syria vows to use any means possible (chemical weapons, etc) breaking every every rules of war established by the Geneva convention
#2: Since its been 2 years of revolt, the population has divided themselves in many groups with different ideology and Al-Quada is in the mix.
#3: There will be massive casualties on both sides
#4: Egypt. The problem is a lot clearer there, its a military coup, plain and simple. Interfering there right now would prevent the population from dividing and many different groups. Plus, they had democracy and it was stolen by the military.
I can't imagine how the soldiers feel right now knowing that they will be deployed when they are fully aware that is gonna be free-for-all, anything goes war.
Should the world retaliate with chemical weapons if Syria used them?
Shit is fucked up
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal] 1
#18763379 - 08/27/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
#18763382 - 08/27/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bring back the napalm!
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal] 1
#18763387 - 08/27/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wanna see these UN reports. Its so hard to tell wtf is actually going on with these things. All I no is whoever used those chemical weapons is prob in some deep shit.
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Boots on the ground would be extremely unpopular. We'll do some airstrikes, but I doubt much else.
Egypt is not so simple, especially considering the ties we have to the military. If anything we should cut the aid we give them, beyond that, it's their country, their problem.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Lynnch]
#18763427 - 08/27/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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from what i read, they are waiting to attack. they want the un inspectors out before anything. i also read that the us plans a few airstrikes to only throw back the syria govern a bit. seems like we are only trying to break their bank.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
#18763484 - 08/27/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I REALLY am praying we dont send ground troops in if we absolutely dont have to.
This is some serious shit
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Herbologist] 4
#18763489 - 08/27/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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this world is so fucked
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Niffla]
#18763492 - 08/27/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Niffla said: this world is so fucked
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Niffla]
#18763495 - 08/27/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Niffla said: this world is so fucked
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal] 4
#18763512 - 08/27/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Patlal said:
Should the world retaliate with chemical weapons if Syria used them?
No.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Niffla]
#18763514 - 08/27/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Niffla said: this world is so fucked
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Futuresight]
#18763544 - 08/27/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The neighboring countries better get ready for the influx of Syrian refugee poon shit's about to get real
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Futuresight]
#18763549 - 08/27/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's already an apocalyptic world over there.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Futuresight]
#18763557 - 08/27/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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send in the Russian's to use weaponized fentanyl.. like the Moscow theater hostage crisis
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Niffla] 2
#18763560 - 08/27/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomery gathering in Syria? Who is with me. Heading to the gathering forum right now to start thread.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Niffla]
#18763568 - 08/27/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18763637 - 08/27/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i hate the news 
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: KT-BC]
#18763652 - 08/27/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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can we all join the no war club and go live on another planet?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: druqs] 4
#18763660 - 08/27/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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druqs said: can we all join the no war club and go live on another planet?
Just let me know where so I can come take it over by force, by myself.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: abltsandwich]
#18763662 - 08/27/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said:
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druqs said: can we all join the no war club and go live on another planet?
Just let me know where so I can come take it over by force, by myself.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: druqs]
#18763667 - 08/27/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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u can stand up and protest these wars and events http://www.millionmaskmarch.ws/
 just sayin
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#18763681 - 08/27/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:
abltsandwich said:
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druqs said: can we all join the no war club and go live on another planet?
Just let me know where so I can come take it over by force, by myself.

but thats against club rules you meanie!
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: cheshirect666] 4
#18763689 - 08/27/13 12:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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cheshirect666 said: u can stand up and protest these wars and events http://www.millionmaskmarch.ws/
 just sayin
Yeah I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that the Syrian Rebels aren't going to give much thought to these protests.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gorlax]
#18763700 - 08/27/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: send in the Russian's to use weaponized fentanyl.. like the Moscow theater hostage crisis
Supposedly Russia and China are saying a big NO to attacking Syria without approval
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18763717 - 08/27/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18763759 - 08/27/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's a little graph about the buildup around Syria.
Now, we wait...
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
#18763767 - 08/27/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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just to be clear... Are we looking to help the Syrian government or the rebel civilians? I havent had a chance to detailed reading, been at work the whole time.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
#18763774 - 08/27/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No evidence that the chem attacks happened or who did what...
What did happen, CIA jackals weren't successful in getting rid of Assad.
What will happen, Obama regime will attack and start world war III.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: mushroomfred]
#18763796 - 08/27/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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how the fuck is Syria next to iraq
I though iran was between iraq and ohhhhh.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Herbologist]
#18763803 - 08/27/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I suppose the rebels, since the graph shows potential attack targets, and one of them is the presidential palace..
Fuck,even our(Finland's) prime minister is talking about potentially sending some troops to Syria, and we're not even a member of NATO, albeit a close allie..
Shit's about to hit the fan(once again)
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
#18763822 - 08/27/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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WWIII
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Herbologist]
#18763853 - 08/27/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Funny how the thread title is talking about the world interfering in Syria, and the news(at least here) are solely talking about the U.S 
Although I guess it's because the U.S would be in command of the potential mission(s)
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: abltsandwich]
#18763867 - 08/27/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
abltsandwich said: The neighboring countries better get ready for the influx of Syrian refugee poon shit's about to get real
U say that like there isnt tens of thousands of refugees already starving in Turkey and Jordan for few years now
Quote:
rulesq said:

Here's a little graph about the buildup around Syria.
Now, we wait...

whats the green FSA?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Konyap] 1
#18763879 - 08/27/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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aiyobro said: how the fuck is Syria next to iraq
I though iran was between iraq and ohhhhh.
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I have no idea what's the green on the graph.. Park areas? 
Srsly tho, the article didn't mention.. Strange that there's no description on the graph..
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
#18763901 - 08/27/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah we don't like their government so the "rebels" is who we want to do the dirty work. It's the classic help them they overthrow the government then we swoop in and fuck shit up. yeah russia is being gay but they are part of UN so can't really be too defiant.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
#18763902 - 08/27/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Herbologist]
#18763907 - 08/27/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: just to be clear... Are we looking to help the Syrian government or the rebel civilians? I havent had a chance to detailed reading, been at work the whole time. 
At this, the goal is to topple the government because it uses its military against the people.
From there, it's anyone's guess. Which group will take over the country? We don't know. How fast are they gonna create political parties and have an election? No clue...
Right now, shit is being thrown in the fan non stop. The first priority is to either stop the fan or take the shit away. Then it'll be Syria's job to wash the walls, floors and ceiling.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gorlax]
#18764115 - 08/27/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: then we swoop in and fuck shit up.
Swoop in and "fuck shit up"? Have you fucking seen Syria?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18764170 - 08/27/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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America can do whatever they want. Want to know why?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 3
#18764327 - 08/27/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know how to solve the problems in Syria, I've had the solution for quite some time now actually but Obama just doesn't seem to give a flying fuck. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15786692#15786692
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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get outa there mang, that shits hanging by the rebar
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: hidenseek1]
#18764515 - 08/27/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was thinking the same thing. Dude. Those are massive slabs of concrete just hanging there. Dude is like "ehhh no big deal I got this".
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18764602 - 08/27/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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Herbologist said: just to be clear... Are we looking to help the Syrian government or the rebel civilians? I havent had a chance to detailed reading, been at work the whole time. 
At this, the goal is to topple the government because it uses its military against the people.
From there, it's anyone's guess. Which group will take over the country? We don't know. How fast are they gonna create political parties and have an election? No clue...
Right now, shit is being thrown in the fan non stop. The first priority is to either stop the fan or take the shit away. Then it'll be Syria's job to wash the walls, floors and ceiling.
Tell me you don't believe the propaganda line that this is some kind of popular uprising, do you? This is a foreign jihadi invasion. Heck, half of those fighters are Chechen.
We don't know who used the chemicals and attacking will lead to WW3.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gorlax]
#18764613 - 08/27/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18764694 - 08/27/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: It's about time cause shit has been going on for too long but there's are many problems to think about.
#1: Syria vows to use any means possible (chemical weapons, etc) breaking every every rules of war established by the Geneva convention
#2: Since its been 2 years of revolt, the population has divided themselves in many groups with different ideology and Al-Quada is in the mix.
#3: There will be massive casualties on both sides
#4: Egypt. The problem is a lot clearer there, its a military coup, plain and simple. Interfering there right now would prevent the population from dividing and many different groups. Plus, they had democracy and it was stolen by the military.
I can't imagine how the soldiers feel right now knowing that they will be deployed when they are fully aware that is gonna be free-for-all, anything goes war.
Should the world retaliate with chemical weapons if Syria used them?
Shit is fucked up
The world should not retaliate with any chemical or nuclear weapons. There is no need. Syria and Egypt both have powerful militaries, but they can't stand against the combined conventional firepower of the West.
This shit has been a long time coming. I've been a blue hawk on Syria for years now, and Egypt is just proving my point that if you let a dictator get away with anything it only encourages others to see how far they can take it in a sort of ghoulish feedback loop. It needs to be stopped, sooner than later.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Doctor Sponge]
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We better hope there's no boots on the ground.
Western interference will not help in anyway. Assad, and his sect the alawites, see this as a fight for survival because the main islamic branches see them as heretics. As someone said the rebel forces consist of many foreign(and native!) jihadists who want to install an islamist state and a western invasion will greatly boost their recruitment capabilities. Syria is a huge, vital state and I think this will have severe repercussions in the long-run for security in that region, regardless of western intervention.
I'm for bombing chemical facilities and what-not but bombing campaigns to oust Assad will lead to even more chaos and bloodshed. I dont know what the alternative is but I am certain the next decade involves a lot of bloodshed in syria regardless
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: iarphairc]
#18766747 - 08/28/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree that ousting Assad will probably lead to more bloodshed, but that wouldn't be the case if we'd done it before he killed and chased out all the sane people in his country.
Yeah, Assad is the good guy because the big bad foreign Islamists consider him a heretic. Jesus. You know the borders of the middle east are completely arbitrary?
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Oh no I'm not saying he's a good guy at all.
The point is that the sectarian bloodshed is so high and that he and many of the elite are part of the alawite minority, that there will almost certainly be retaliatory ethnic cleansing. And that is partly why Assad and his alawaite supporters are desperate to stay in power.
Unfortunately this arbitrary state borders Turkey(the buffer state between east and west, talks to join the EU) Israel(importance is obvious), Iraq(same again) and Lebanon(which has its own very active/powerful islamic militia/terrorist group etc that was at war with israel). Off the top of my head there are four important states that are going to be de-stabilised by a collapse of governmentc either through the already massix influx of refugee's or the influence of militant groups on their borders or interacting with local groups.
From a strictly geo-political view I would say Assad is by far preferable to whatever alternative, 'cos it aint about to turn into a liberal democracy anytime soon. Morally I think he should be hung by a lamppost however
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18767192 - 08/28/13 04:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like bad news
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#18767196 - 08/28/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i'm just waiting for the new call of duty: syria game to be released
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18767213 - 08/28/13 04:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: It's about time cause shit has been going on for too long but there's are many problems to think about.
#1: Syria vows to use any means possible (chemical weapons, etc) breaking every every rules of war established by the Geneva convention
Shit is fucked up
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18767547 - 08/28/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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do you actually trust that? russia being their closest alley saying, "oh no, no, no, it was the rebels..."
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current] 2
#18767602 - 08/28/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18767613 - 08/28/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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whether it was the rebels or assad himself, you dont think something should be done?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
#18767641 - 08/28/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is something the US and UK should leave along . Both country's have massive debt problems of there own , no need to make them worse .
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: mandrax360]
#18767673 - 08/28/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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so who should be involved? what should be done? if we, the us, get involved, i think it will only be a pride thing. i really believe that the us could give a shit less if all those people were gassed.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: mandrax360]
#18767679 - 08/28/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The problem is, the longer the Syrian conflict goes on, the higher the oil prices become. Just this morning crude oil was selling for 112$ per barrel compared to 108$ last month and 101$ three months ago. That's a 10% increase. Their crisis affects our wallets whether we go or not.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18767681 - 08/28/13 09:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The problem is, the longer the Syrian conflict goes on, the higher the oil prices become. Just this morning crude oil was selling for 112$ per barrel compared to 108$ last month and 101$ three months ago. That's a 10% increase. Their crisis affects our wallets whether we go or not.
Soon the USA will be the biggest oil producer thanks to bakken oil in North Dakota!!!
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current] 3
#18767728 - 08/28/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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current said: whether it was the rebels or assad himself, you dont think something should be done?
let them kill each other off, who cares, it's not my back yard, if israel or anyone else neighboring them gives a fuck then let them get involved
why is it our place to get involved?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18767730 - 08/28/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The problem is, the longer the Syrian conflict goes on, the higher the oil prices become. Just this morning crude oil was selling for 112$ per barrel compared to 108$ last month and 101$ three months ago. That's a 10% increase. Their crisis affects our wallets whether we go or not.
end yet more economical cars, hybrids and electrics are being produced, this could speed the 'eco-revolution' all the hippies want, let syria deal with syria
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#18767739 - 08/28/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18767755 - 08/28/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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what if their next step is us soil. why not stop them in their tracks now while sending a message to anyone else. crimes like this will not be tolerated. this wasnt a simple car bombing or a suicide bomber. this chem thing, to me, is pretty fucking serious and can only get worse. i dont think the us should kick ass now and take names later, but we should def be involved.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
#18767763 - 08/28/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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current said: what if their next step is us soil. why not stop them in their tracks now while sending a message to anyone else. crimes like this will not be tolerated. this wasnt a simple car bombing or a suicide bomber. this chem thing, to me, is pretty fucking serious and can only get worse. i dont think the us should kick ass now and take names later, but we should def be involved.
Oh come on...Syria's going to attack the US with chemical weapons? Get real
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18767770 - 08/28/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
No Pris, it's a government content with attacking its own people that leads to 9/11
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: iarphairc]
#18767775 - 08/28/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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no, but whos to say they dont sell the shit or give other groups the idea. i mean, if syria got away with it, why couldnt we...
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#18767776 - 08/28/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The problem is, the longer the Syrian conflict goes on, the higher the oil prices become. Just this morning crude oil was selling for 112$ per barrel compared to 108$ last month and 101$ three months ago. That's a 10% increase. Their crisis affects our wallets whether we go or not.
Soon the USA will be the biggest oil producer thanks to bakken oil in North Dakota!!!
That's US financial media propoganda, what is the cost of production for that oil? In many cases, it's $100 per barrel.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
#18767798 - 08/28/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The problem is, the longer the Syrian conflict goes on, the higher the oil prices become. Just this morning crude oil was selling for 112$ per barrel compared to 108$ last month and 101$ three months ago. That's a 10% increase. Their crisis affects our wallets whether we go or not.
Soon the USA will be the biggest oil producer thanks to bakken oil in North Dakota!!!
If bets were taken on which state would solve the US oil dependency, North Dakota would have been 100 to 1 odds. Good old North Dakota walks in to save the day
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current] 2
#18767803 - 08/28/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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current said: what if their next step is us soil. why not stop them in their tracks now while sending a message to anyone else. crimes like this will not be tolerated. this wasnt a simple car bombing or a suicide bomber. this chem thing, to me, is pretty fucking serious and can only get worse. i dont think the us should kick ass now and take names later, but we should def be involved.
"next step is us soil."
What are you smoking? Why people think these broke people that live 5000 miles away from us are a threat is beyond me, you are falling for US scare tactics.
We must go to war in Vietnam, to stop communism from spreading to the US, do you realize you stupid that argument that was used 40 years ago sounds today?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: qman]
#18767811 - 08/28/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The problem is, the longer the Syrian conflict goes on, the higher the oil prices become. Just this morning crude oil was selling for 112$ per barrel compared to 108$ last month and 101$ three months ago. That's a 10% increase. Their crisis affects our wallets whether we go or not.
Soon the USA will be the biggest oil producer thanks to bakken oil in North Dakota!!!
That's US financial media propoganda, what is the cost of production for that oil? In many cases, it's $100 per barrel.
Believe it or not, the American government doesn't give a shit about the price of oil. At least not in lowering it. The price of oil is the only thing keeping the American Dollar afloat. If the price of oil drops or the American Dollar is no longer the currency used to valuate the price of crude oil, then the dollar is suddenly on par with the Lyra and the Peso. Because you see since the gold standard was destroyed, the International trading committees had to install a new way to valuate world currency based on the dollar. That new installation is OPEC oil. The American government will go to any lengths necessary to ensure that doesn't happen.
This all stems from Syria threatening to take its oil and sell it to China and Russia instead of America. With such high stakes, it's impossible to know which side to believe.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: qman]
#18767825 - 08/28/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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just sayin, like, what if, man..... anythings possible, you know.
i guess it would be impossible for any group anywhere in the world to get their hands on some nerve gas and kaplooey the shit out of some unexpected city...
it was never an option until NOW!
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: ilike_trees]
#18767827 - 08/28/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Syria accounts for 1% of world oil production. It is a significant player in the oil trade, but only just.
Also, I could be wrong about this as I don't live in the middle east, but I do try to follow the news pretty closely and I get the impression the current Syrian civil war was initiated when a brutal, neverending "crackdown" on peaceful protesters galvanized, united and finally radicalized the country's disparate opposition parties. This isn't about oil, but the small role Syria plays in world oil production might account for the indolent reaction from neighboring, much better-armed liberal democracies.
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Prisoner#1 said: I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris. 
are you saying we should jump right in and fight?
I guess you must support wars such as afghanistan and iraq
or do you only support wars that obama gets us into
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
#18767852 - 08/28/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The one thing I never understood about oil. Canada could easily suupply the entire US oil demand for decades, which would give time for the US to develop it's own production. I have no idea why it hasn't been done yet and I wonder why the US still buys its oil from everywhere else. Obama refuses to build the Keystone pipeline, why???
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
#18767855 - 08/28/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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current said: what if their next step is us soil. why not stop them in their tracks now while sending a message to anyone else. crimes like this will not be tolerated. this wasnt a simple car bombing or a suicide bomber. this chem thing, to me, is pretty fucking serious and can only get worse. i dont think the us should kick ass now and take names later, but we should def be involved.
stop whom from invading?
syria?
seriously?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18767866 - 08/28/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris. 
are you saying we should jump right in and fight?
I guess you must support wars such as afghanistan and iraq
or do you only support wars that obama gets us into
I would have supported the Iraq invasion if it was better timed. It should have come sooner; hell, G. H. W. Bush should have ousted Saddam in 1991. Yes, I think we should jump right in and fight. Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests and it is only consistent with our values as a nation to defend liberty and democracy against tyrants.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
#18767872 - 08/28/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
#18767877 - 08/28/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The one thing I never understood about oil. Canada could easily suupply the entire US oil demand for decades, which would give time for the US to develop it's own production. I have no idea why it hasn't been done yet and I wonder why the US still buys its oil from everywhere else. Obama refuses to build the Keystone pipeline, why???
They intend to leave the oil in canada for last . As stated above the oil price is the only thing keeping the $ afloat , use the rest of the worlds oil cause a demand keeping the price high and the dollar stable
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal] 1
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Patlal said: The one thing I never understood about oil. Canada could easily suupply the entire US oil demand for decades, which would give time for the US to develop it's own production. I have no idea why it hasn't been done yet and I wonder why the US still buys its oil from everywhere else. Obama refuses to build the Keystone pipeline, why???
Tar sands are very high cost oil production and a environmental hazard, massive amounts of water are needed to extract the oil. Tar sand producers really need $120 plus oil, if not higher.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: mandrax360] 1
#18767884 - 08/28/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris. 
are you saying we should jump right in and fight?
I guess you must support wars such as afghanistan and iraq
or do you only support wars that obama gets us into
I would have supported the Iraq invasion if it was better timed. It should have come sooner; hell, G. H. W. Bush should have ousted Saddam in 1991. Yes, I think we should jump right in and fight. Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests and it is only consistent with our values as a nation to defend liberty and democracy against tyrants.
maybe you're unaware of the fact that clinton continued bombing iraq through the 90s, yeah... the media didnt tell you that did they, they didnt tell you that the 1998 strike that clinton executed was also under the premise of WMDs inside the borders either did they
exactly what should the timing have been? are you saying you didnt support it because a republican actually decided to put an end to it after trying to negotiate with saddam first after he halted the clinton bombing raids
if the fuckers in the middle east wipe each other out then we can stroll in and take the oil, it's a great plan and it doesnt involve us in yet another war that you liberals seem so keen on
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: ilike_trees]
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Patlal said: The problem is, the longer the Syrian conflict goes on, the higher the oil prices become. Just this morning crude oil was selling for 112$ per barrel compared to 108$ last month and 101$ three months ago. That's a 10% increase. Their crisis affects our wallets whether we go or not.
Soon the USA will be the biggest oil producer thanks to bakken oil in North Dakota!!!
That's US financial media propoganda, what is the cost of production for that oil? In many cases, it's $100 per barrel.
Believe it or not, the American government doesn't give a shit about the price of oil. At least not in lowering it. The price of oil is the only thing keeping the American Dollar afloat. If the price of oil drops or the American Dollar is no longer the currency used to valuate the price of crude oil, then the dollar is suddenly on par with the Lyra and the Peso. Because you see since the gold standard was destroyed, the International trading committees had to install a new way to valuate world currency based on the dollar. That new installation is OPEC oil. The American government will go to any lengths necessary to ensure that doesn't happen.
This all stems from Syria threatening to take its oil and sell it to China and Russia instead of America. With such high stakes, it's impossible to know which side to believe.
"The price of oil is the only thing keeping the American dollar afloat."
No, the mandate that all oil transactions are done in US dollars is what gives the dollar status, lower prices do not matter, remember 2008? Oil want from $148 to $35, the dollar survived just fine.
Syria is non player in the oil producer world, everyone acknowledges this fact.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18767920 - 08/28/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris. 
are you saying we should jump right in and fight?
I guess you must support wars such as afghanistan and iraq
or do you only support wars that obama gets us into
for the 3rd time... other than.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Niffla]
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Niffla]
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal] 1
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Patlal said: It's about time cause shit has been going on for too long but there's are many problems to think about.
#1: Syria vows to use any means possible (chemical weapons, etc) breaking every every rules of war established by the Geneva convention
The idea that there are "rules of war" is hilarious to me. Like the bombs that we'll be blowing up schools and hospitals with are any better than chemical weapons. Let's go invade Syria to ensure that people are killed with the right sort of weapon!
I've said it before and I'll say it again: war is not an answer at all. It's one of the main problems that we as a species need to figure out how to solve. Thousands of years of wars to fix problems have brought us nothing but more wars; more government-sanctioned mass murder.
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It truly saddens me to hear this sort of rhetoric from you, BlindSophist... because it's the sort generally reserved for tea-party conservatives. I really expected better from you than to parrot the same lame justifications for war the media's been giving since god knows how long. There will be no defense of liberty and democracy. The only thing that we'll bring is a different color uniform and better weapons to massacre people with.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: NetDiver]
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Prisoner#1 said: I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris. 
are you saying we should jump right in and fight?
I guess you must support wars such as afghanistan and iraq
or do you only support wars that obama gets us into
Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests and it is only consistent with our values as a nation to defend liberty and democracy against tyrants.
It is crucial. But, and I dont want to start a debate on these, your intervention's in Iraq and afghanistan have not stabilised the country, and surely wont in the long run ...and those states would argue their ability to choose their government, through ballots or guns, was taken by the states and had one form of government imposed on it to replace another. As for their liberty...yeeaaahhh I'll accept that point
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Look at what's happening in Iraq. If you think a regime change anywhere in the Middle East is going to fix anything you are kidding yourself. Those people are fucking savages, we can't fix that with bombs...
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Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris. 
are you saying we should jump right in and fight?
I guess you must support wars such as afghanistan and iraq
or do you only support wars that obama gets us into
I would have supported the Iraq invasion if it was better timed. It should have come sooner; hell, G. H. W. Bush should have ousted Saddam in 1991. Yes, I think we should jump right in and fight. Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests and it is only consistent with our values as a nation to defend liberty and democracy against tyrants.
"Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests."
That's one of the problems, why should our economic interests be tied to oil producing nations 5000 away from us? They shouldn't, and whos economic interest is it? The worlds elite.
Since when is invading a country without any clear mission adding "stability" to the region? Most rational people would call it instability.
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I would have supported the Iraq invasion if it was better timed. It should have come sooner; hell, G. H. W. Bush should have ousted Saddam in 1991. Yes, I think we should jump right in and fight. Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests and it is only consistent with our values as a nation to defend liberty and democracy against tyrants.
"Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests."
That's one of the problems, why should our economic interests be tied to oil producing nations 5000 away from us? They shouldn't, and whos economic interest is it? The worlds elite.
Since when is invading a country without any clear mission adding "stability" to the region? Most rational people would call it instability.
Yeah, remember that time that the US invaded a country and left it in better shape than it was before?
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IMO the US (or US allies) are behind the chemical attacks in Syria. The US has held an interest in destabilizing local conflicts since before WWII and this chemical attack bullshit is just some elaborate plan to get on with their fascist geopolitical agenda in the middle east.
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I would have supported the Iraq invasion if it was better timed. It should have come sooner; hell, G. H. W. Bush should have ousted Saddam in 1991. Yes, I think we should jump right in and fight. Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests and it is only consistent with our values as a nation to defend liberty and democracy against tyrants.
"Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests."
That's one of the problems, why should our economic interests be tied to oil producing nations 5000 away from us? They shouldn't, and whos economic interest is it? The worlds elite.
Since when is invading a country without any clear mission adding "stability" to the region? Most rational people would call it instability.
Yeah, remember that time that the US invaded a country and left it in better shape than it was before?
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Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris. 
are you saying we should jump right in and fight?
I guess you must support wars such as afghanistan and iraq
or do you only support wars that obama gets us into
I would have supported the Iraq invasion if it was better timed. It should have come sooner; hell, G. H. W. Bush should have ousted Saddam in 1991. Yes, I think we should jump right in and fight. Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests and it is only consistent with our values as a nation to defend liberty and democracy against tyrants.
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What about with LSD and psilocibin?
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I dont trust either side, what I do trust is that we need to mind our own fucking business because it's shit like this that leads to shit like 9/11
Huh, are you saying we should bend to the will of terrorists? Oh, pris. 
are you saying we should jump right in and fight?
I guess you must support wars such as afghanistan and iraq
or do you only support wars that obama gets us into
I would have supported the Iraq invasion if it was better timed. It should have come sooner; hell, G. H. W. Bush should have ousted Saddam in 1991. Yes, I think we should jump right in and fight. Stability in the middle east is crucial to US economic and diplomatic interests and it is only consistent with our values as a nation to defend liberty and democracy against tyrants.
So would you be willing to go over there & fight?
The answer for her would be no, like most people that follow her ideology, they live in theoretical land.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Patlal]
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One year to the day of obamas "red line" speech the chemical attacks happened.
It was obviously the rebels who gassed those people. Backed by the US government.
Unbelievable. They are just begging to get us into another world war.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: qman]
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It truly saddens me to hear this sort of rhetoric from you, BlindSophist... because it's the sort generally reserved for tea-party conservatives. I really expected better from you than to parrot the same lame justifications for war the media's been giving since god knows how long. There will be no defense of liberty and democracy. The only thing that we'll bring is a different color uniform and better weapons to massacre people with.
I don't think the US media has been pushing for war in Syria at all. There is very little financial incentive for the US to go to war with Syria and it would be prosecuted on mainly ethical grounds. Say what you will, if Assad had been ousted by a western coalition during or shortly after his initial reprisals, the transition to a new leadership could have been relatively straightforward, especially with the lessons of Iraq fresh in our memory. However, those reprisals have whittled the population of the country down to loyalists and guerilla fighters while attracting extremists. A similar process occurred in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, with the opposition movements growing increasingly radicalized by the increasingly entrenched Ba'ath party, and by the time we invaded (so many years after Saddam's many massacres of his own people) the battle lines were already drawn and the groups already girded for civil war.
I speak from the position of a compromise between pragmatism and idealism. I don't like to think of myself as a hawk but in the immediate wake of Assad's reprisals I was disturbed to see that our wars are waged entirely at the convenience of war profiteers. If/when we invade Syria I'm sure it will be at least as much of a bloody quagmire as Iraq, and for the same reason-- that we invaded not for principle but for political convenience. The war profiteers and their political lapdogs will always hold up our shared principles as the rationalization for their actions, and I demand only that they show respect for these principles by executing them consistently. It would be harder on their coffers and their reputations but better for the rest of the world.
At this point I think the military dictatorship of Egypt should be quickly deposed in order to avoid a similar polarization of the Egyptians as in Iraq and now Syria, to restore the tenuous democracy that was taking root in that country. But this will not occur; instead, the politicians will hem and haw, give vague signals about freezing military aid in order to silence domestic outrage, even limited as it is by our provincial fear of democratic Islamism, and then continue to support the butchers in power.
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That's one of the problems, why should our economic interests be tied to oil producing nations 5000 away from us? They shouldn't, and whos economic interest is it? The worlds elite.
Since when is invading a country without any clear mission adding "stability" to the region? Most rational people would call it instability.
Ideally, the US would feed itself with small-scale decentralized agriculture and our economy would not be dependent on foreign oil for transportation of the basic necessities of life; manufacturing would be handled on-shore and there would be much less energy demand inherent in the price of everyday goods. Under such circumstances we would be able to ignore the middle east, they would be able to run their own affairs and we would not have any stake in the matter. Instead we live with this shit sandwich, and it's not changing very quickly.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Aedan]
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It was obviously the rebels who gassed those people. Backed by the US government.
Unbelievable. They are just begging to get us into another world war.
The rebels don't have the resources to do that.
The Saudis do.
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10 years out of Iraq, now the Liberals are the war hawks pushing an unpopular war with a questionable Casus Belli

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It was obviously the rebels who gassed those people. Backed by the US government.
Unbelievable. They are just begging to get us into another world war.
The rebels don't have the resources to do that.
The Saudis do.
The plot thickens.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: elax420]
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Loving Every Laugh.
Honestly, viewing the Bush years in retrospect, I do miss him. However, I don't miss his friends or advisers (in the latter case because they never even fucking left-- THANKS OBAMA!).
He paints now. Did you know he actually has a soul? I must admit it came to me as a shock.
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Thanks, Gilgy, for turning this dismal thread into a gallery of some of the finest artworks of our time.
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Aedan said: One year to the day of obamas "red line" speech the chemical attacks happened.
It was obviously the rebels who gassed those people. Backed by the US government.
Unbelievable. They are just begging to get us into another world war.
The rebels don't have the resources to do that.
The Saudis do.
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What about with LSD and psilocibin?
A quick visit to TPE or this forum would clearly demonstrate that psychedelics would be the worst idea possible.
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PSH
you call that art

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Take a ride on the Reading Rainbow with uncle Adolf.
What mysteries will you uncover? Ancient tales of Atlantis, Zionist plots to take over the world. Who knows what joys you will discover through the magic of reeeeading!
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What mysteries will you uncover? Ancient tales of Atlantis, Zionist plots to take over the world. Who knows what joys you will discover through the magic of reeeeading!

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Lol thats going in the folder

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now thats art
This thread has improved 600% since it was a standard hawks-vs.-doves, red-vs.-blue affair.
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So would you be willing to go over there & fight?
That's a great point, personally if there was a war I supported then I would enlist. Talking about ending talk and moving into violence, talking about it, doesn't mean much.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Repertoire89]
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Well I don't even know whether or not you would do it, just saying in general.
*edit: changed video, better sound
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I would fight in a war i believed in. WW1, WW2, Rev, Civil, hell even the spanish american but none of these bullshit wars.
Try and tell me it wouldn't be bitching as fuck to fight with TR
"We will commit all of our buffalo divisions for a frontal assault as a diversionary strike, and while the spanish are unaware we will charge up the behind the hill and stick our sabers up ferdinands ass, tally ho!!!! for god and country!!"

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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: imachavel]
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Damn what does that say man. It wont zoom for me
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: elax420]
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Ground zero island, something like that
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
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Man, I wish they[who?] would just nuke the ay-rabs so I won't have to hear about this stuff on the news. All their dumb conflicts are seriously bugging me man.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: KremrBigSikter]
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Hopefully it doesnt happen for 5-10 years so I can stockpile my survival gear
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
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If a bomb blew apart that much of the land and left a nice little ocean behind we might all be dead from the lack of sunlight from say..... A nuclear winter.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: iarphairc]
#18772157 - 08/29/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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To to prep my bugout bag
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: iarphairc]
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: DeadHearts]
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i really dont know how i would prepare... besides, im broke anyway.
um, has N. Korea stated anything? i know they were running their mouths a few months ago... do they have any play in this or will they?
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Meh, it could be done in phases 
And I'm not actually promoting the idea, someone wasn't able to zoom the smaller pic on the previous page, so I jumped in and posted a bigger pic for convenience
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
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so our logic is....
bad guy in syria used chem and hurt/ killed people we noe like so im gonna bomb the shit out of them even more people get hurted/ die
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
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bad guy in syria used chem and hurt/ killed people we noe like so im gonna bomb the shit out of them even more people get hurted/ die
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#18772201 - 08/29/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah, i understand...
the way i see it, why not send these ass holes in and let them fuck shit up from the inside.
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current said: so our logic is....
bad guy in syria used chem and hurt/ killed people we noe like so im gonna bomb the shit out of them even more people get hurted/ die
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current said: so our logic is....
bad guy in syria used chem and hurt/ killed people we noe like so im gonna bomb the shit out of them even more people get hurted/ die
There is no logic to the mission, there is no liberal or conservative support for this potential war, there is no international support for a US mission in Syria.
One might conclude that this is a desparate act for the protection of the petro dollar, or for the US/Western financial system, who really knows. Chemical weapons would just be the headline excuse for starting a very unpopular war.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#18773788 - 08/29/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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But the problem is not solved, turkey is one of the biggest agitating, land grabbing states in history. Fuck those guys.
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bad guy in syria used chem and hurt/ killed people we noe like so im gonna bomb the shit out of them even more people get hurted/ die
Chemical weapons are against international agreements on warfare.
What makes Chemical weapons the line?? Civilians are dying either way what makes them so special? That whole humanitarian argument is bunk as fuck. GBR and USA have no problems killing civilians. I dont even need to cite any examples because they are literally everywhere, but for the hell of it, Dresden. Beautiful medieval city, No military value at all, war was all but won at that point, but fuck the germans thats why Or the use of nukes to wave your dick around at russia when the war was all but over. lets do it for the lels guys.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: elax420]
#18774191 - 08/29/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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elax420 said: But the problem is not solved, turkey is one of the biggest agitating, land grabbing states in history. Fuck those guys.

They've also committed several genocides which they have never acknowledged. Probably because they want to keep the land they stole from their neighbors. Fuck Turkey.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Prisoner#1]
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1. The last is bullshit. 9/11 happened because some asshole didn't want us to protect his country because we weren't Muslim. Are we supposed to mold our foreign policy around what any random asshole says is unacceptable? Never surrender. 2. I trust both sides. They are proven scum 3. Obama is fucked. He has under 10% approval for this, other allied countries are backing off from support and Russia and China are puffing up against 4. Obama is making Bush look like a wise reasoned sage and Jimmy Carter an improvement. No wonder Carter loves him. Obama is making him look good.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: elax420]
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elax420 said: But the problem is not solved, turkey is one of the biggest agitating, land grabbing states in history. Fuck those guys.
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bad guy in syria used chem and hurt/ killed people we noe like so im gonna bomb the shit out of them even more people get hurted/ die
Chemical weapons are against international agreements on warfare.
What makes Chemical weapons the line?? Civilians are dying either way what makes them so special?
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That whole humanitarian argument is bunk as fuck. GBR and USA have no problems killing civilians.
This is bullshit. If it were true there wouldn't be an afghani or Iraqi alive today.Quote:
I dont even need to cite any examples because they are literally everywhere, but for the hell of it, Dresden.
70 tears ago in a total war? More stupid shit. I suppose there should have been no response to the Nazi bombing of London, eh? Not applicableQuote:
Beautiful medieval city, No military value at all, war was all but won at that point, but fuck the germans thats why
The Germans were hot on the pursuit of a nucear weapon and not that far off. It was imperative to do everything possible to punish them into surrender as fast as possible.Quote:
. Or the use of nukes to wave your dick around at russia when the war was all but over. lets do it for the lels guys.
More bullshit. There was every indication that the Japs were willing to fight to the last man. They, like the freeakshow Muzzis, had no real respect for human life, even their own. See : Samurai culture.
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They've also committed several genocides which they have never acknowledged. Probably because they want to keep the land they stole from their neighbors. Fuck Turkey.
And ruined one of the greatest cities the world has ever seen. ___
Zappa your such a obvious shill i dont even know if its worth responding to you. Dude you dont know shit about war or history stop commenting on it.
K ww2 not good enough for ya? I not even going to respond to that stupid ass mainline government response to "why nukes were the only course of action" that no one who has any background info buys.
more examples of wars where we bombed(or razed) major civilian centers/targets
Shermans march/burning atlanta Vietnam Iraq1 serbia/kosovo Afghanistan iraq2 good enough yet? Wow that is pretty much every war he have been involved in 
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
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It is unwise to invade Syria, we don't belong there even if they are committing genocide, we should just bomb their weapon manufacturing sites to protect ourselves from their unauthorized weapons and send documents to the U.N. to explain the actions.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: lazyfingers]
#18776233 - 08/30/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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God damn crazy brown people.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Konyap]
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can someone re post that meanwhile in canada pic? the one with the jet costumes? i cant find that shit anywhere... i tried explaining it to this chick, but she looked at me like i was crazy and when i tried showing her and couldnt find it... well lets just say i wont be getting any mouth hugs till i show her.
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#18776364 - 08/30/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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 I searched "meanwhile in canada" from google imagesearch and bim bam boom 
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: rulesq]
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i did too. i really did. a bunch of others came up. thanks though. thoughts of you will be present while im getting that mouth hug. feel free to post a pic of yourself too.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
#18776377 - 08/30/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah, I'm fine, thanks anyway.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/30/john-kerry-praises-french-snubs-british/
Personally I'm not happy with this at all, and I don't know anyone here who is, because we have nothing to do in Syria. And guess who's gonna pay for all this 
It's not like Hollande really gives a shit about Syria anyway, he's just having a bit of a tough time on the home front.. standard diversionary tactics.. foreign policy adventure, fly the flag etc..
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Constantine]
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Lol, John Kerry is a Frenchie-lover.
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im tired of googling the shit. any real updates yet?
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
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Hemming and hawing.
I don't actually think there will be a full-scale invasion of Syria. There seems to be a broad consensus that there shouldn't be any "boots on the ground". There will probably be strategic actions by an American-European coalition as occurred in Libya, however. Missile strikes and no-fly-zones, what have you. It could cripple the regime and allow the baddest bunch of Islamist motherfuckers to take power by force.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Constantine]
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yeah... the un inspectors are suppose to be long gone by sat, i think, which is when we, the us, are suppose to be doing something.
how much is this gonna cost?
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I'm sure it won't cost anyone but the entire economy a dime.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: current]
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Taxes will not be raised, but it will go to the national deficit.
It's impossible to raise federal taxes for anything in the current political climate so government expenditures generally tend to affect the value of the dollar directly (if I understand these things correctly).
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Apparently Obama just announced no boots on ground. Thank god. Its on the cnn front page.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Konyap]
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Fuck man that's really sad when you think about it, poor family and friends.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: The5thElement]
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I don't look at death or sudden loss as a sad thing really, neither do muslim cultures. Kind of sad we depend on people that much really.
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Konyap]
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so if i OD tonight you wouldnt shed a tear?
douche bag...
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Somebodies got to lug you to the garbage dump
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: Konyap]
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Being sad from someones death doesn't make you dependent on them it makes you human. I would defiantly be sad if that was my son.
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douche bag...
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Re: The world will now interfere in Syria [Re: The5thElement]
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It was on the front page of the New York Post. Somebodies got to be sad. Don't see how being sad makes you human though. Animals can be sad. Maybe I'm just an amoeba or something.
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