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Bitter blotter, clean acid
#18762956 - 08/27/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've heard many times over the saying "if its bitter, it's a spitter", however, I have tested tabs that are confirmed to be very clean lsd, according to masses amounts of feedback (if you know what I mean).
Now I gave one to a friend, and just before he fell into the abyss on 300ug, the last thing he said was 'quite bitter'.
So what am I supposed to conclude? Lsd obviously isn't always tasteless I guess? Could it be the ink? Fingerprints?
Just trying to end this ongoing debate about if lsd has a taste, because if that saying was anything to go by, he would have spat out some nice stuff.
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It could be the ink. I have WoW right now with a SLIGHT metallic/bitter taste, but I believe it's the ink because it IS Legit clean L. plus I an see the lines drawn on but who knows. If you have blotter art it's probably all the ink, especially if it's dark ink. Also depends how bitter. If it's so bitter that swishing it around and chewing it is nasty then it probably isn't acid.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: theRAPeutic]
#18763004 - 08/27/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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tahp93 said: It could be the ink. I have WoW right now with a SLIGHT metallic/bitter taste, but I believe it's the ink because it IS Legit clean L. plus I an see the lines drawn on but who knows. If you have blotter art it's probably all the ink, especially if it's dark ink. Also depends how bitter. If it's so bitter that swishing it around and chewing it is nasty then it probably isn't acid.
I reckon it's the ink too.
Ill wait til he reports back. If he reports the usual 45 come up and 10-12 hour duration, then I don't think that saying will be anything to go by ever.
I think the only signal of an RC will be numbing.
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Yeah. The only other RC that hits pretty quick is 25i-nBome. But it numbs your tongue and is bitter. With the sublingual method my tabs have been hitting me in 25 minutes, it's 
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: theRAPeutic]
#18763409 - 08/27/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The best test to prove its nbome is if the bitterness lasts longer than an hour and you have numbness.
Don't let the "ink is bitter" none sense because it really isn't. Prove that by just chewing on a magazine; which uses cheaper ink than what's used on blotters.
The only taste I ever got from LSD was a slight metallic and a light feel like putting your tongue on a 9volt battery (obviously much weaker sensation though).
There have been assholes that use a little LSD and mainly nbome so reagent tests will still call it CID; much like assholes that cut MDMA with other shit to make more money.
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Could it be the alcohol used when laying the blotter? I had Hoffmans with the koi and they had a bitter taste that only lasted a few mins with no numbing.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: aw11driver]
#18764136 - 08/27/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Completely forgot about the alcohol. That's definitely a possibility.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: theRAPeutic]
#18764151 - 08/27/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hofmann blotters are clean acid
they're pretty bitter, noone knows why
I've taken 3-5 at a time before, good LSD
no strong taste except for more than 5-10mins or so , it's the paper it feels like
tested good on ehrlich each time
but else I would be -very suspicious- ofbitter blotter don't eat it without testing it first IMO
uvlight + ehrlich test
nbome isn't very bitter, about that of hofmanns but they numb tongue/mouth , and bitterness lasts more than 30mins or so... real lsd is never bitter that long
also lsd hits at 60mins exactly always for me with normal dose, and lasts/gone by 12 hours (can sleep there first)
DOx is a possibility if its bitter too, but they last a long time if you take more hits... 16-24 hours+ iirc
good lsd has -no- taste, but sometimes lsd can have a slight metallic taste/electric feeling like a 9v battery ;-)
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: lessismore]
#18764276 - 08/27/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mio said: Hofmann blotters are clean acid
they're pretty bitter, noone knows why
I've taken 3-5 at a time before, good LSD
no strong taste except for more than 5-10mins or so , it's the paper it feels like
tested good on ehrlich each time
but else I would be -very suspicious- ofbitter blotter don't eat it without testing it first IMO
uvlight + ehrlich test
nbome isn't very bitter, about that of hofmanns but they numb tongue/mouth , and bitterness lasts more than 30mins or so... real lsd is never bitter that long
also lsd hits at 60mins exactly always for me with normal dose, and lasts/gone by 12 hours (can sleep there first)
DOx is a possibility if its bitter too, but they last a long time if you take more hits... 16-24 hours+ iirc
good lsd has -no- taste, but sometimes lsd can have a slight metallic taste/electric feeling like a 9v battery ;-)
Cheers for clearing it up. Turns out lsd does have a sight taste sometimes, he reported effects after 30 mins and came down within 10 hours. Good stuff.
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Yeah, ink doesn't seem to have much taste. I assumed it did until I tested the theory by tasting some stuff I printed. I also found others on forums who had tasted various printed papers without finding any significant taste or bitterness.
I think the bitterness probably has to do with the way the LSD is prepared. It may be okay LSD, but to me, it's not a good sign. I think it suggests that somebody in the manufacturing process didn't know what they were doing or they were cutting corners.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: aw11driver]
#18765033 - 08/27/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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aw11driver said: Could it be the alcohol used when laying the blotter? I had Hoffmans with the koi and they had a bitter taste that only lasted a few mins with no numbing.
Try ever clear and soak a sheet of blank paper. After it completely drys out taste it. It's not that bitter. Pretty tasteless
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: aw11driver]
#18765104 - 08/27/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm pretty sure those hoffmans are like the only print going around that's bitter and legit LSD
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: Sheekle]
#18765144 - 08/27/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Yeah I'm pretty sure those hoffmans are like the only print going around that's bitter and legit LSD
I would suspect the purity of the crystal is lower. Pure LSD is tasteless, so any taste would be other materials.
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The Ganesha were the most nasty I've had
would constantly give me leg cramps, and I had to eat many for them to be visual
but intense mindfuck though
felt like LSD, just weird.... very intense mindfuck of one, but only visual after 4-6 each time...
now I get intense visuals of 1 hit each time, with stronger tabs
they had a weird fruity taste, that was verynoticeable if you ate many kinda like flowerwater taste
Haven't had such weird tasting blotter since, yellow shiva tasted exactly like Hofmanns though - same bitter, same trip, same LSD I'm sure (needed 2-3 of those too, preferably 3, so low dose)
I think I needed 5-8 ganesha for them to give good visuals, for some reason those blotters were not very visual unless many were taken 7-8+ did give infinity visuals though, everything repeating but usually mindfuck that big is only off a high dose of lsd... 2 hits were almost too much mindfuck each time, just no visuals
but I did have some great experiences on them though, the experiences didn't lack anything spiritually just weird with huge mindfuck of 1-2 hits, but no visuals till 5-8+ hits really
could be coincidence with LSD maybe? like the legs cramps, lsd gives different effect each time perhaps could be low purity LSD too
I think I've had much more pure LSD, no taste, and intense visuals of 1 hits each time since those tabs, they didn't feel very pure (weird body load)
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: lessismore]
#18765200 - 08/27/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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what tests exactly are you using? just friends saying "wow this is good shit"?
thats not reliable at all because the majority really dont know their shit, and they cant tell the difference between good clean cid and n-bomb.
the best test to do is a erlich reagent, and even then its tricky because some people will cut the lsd with nbome, so it saves them money, but still shows as lsd on the test.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: sailing]
#18765253 - 08/27/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sailing said: what tests exactly are you using? just friends saying "wow this is good shit"?
thats not reliable at all because the majority really dont know their shit, and they cant tell the difference between good clean cid and n-bomb.
the best test to do is a erlich reagent, and even then its tricky because some people will cut the lsd with nbome, so it saves them money, but still shows as lsd on the test.
Product was bought from a vendor with 100% feedback after 1000+ transactions of exclusively lsd. If that makes sense to you.
Product turned showed up as a deep purple with the ehrlich test.
That's pretty much why I made this because I am able to pretty much confirm that it's lsd before I even try it.
Turns out it was good L in the end despite the taste, he only took half in the end which shook his ego up and down.
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sailing said: what tests exactly are you using? just friends saying "wow this is good shit"?
thats not reliable at all because the majority really dont know their shit, and they cant tell the difference between good clean cid and n-bomb.
the best test to do is a erlich reagent, and even then its tricky because some people will cut the lsd with nbome, so it saves them money, but still shows as lsd on the test.
Product was bought from a vendor with 100% feedback after 1000+ transactions of exclusively lsd. If that makes sense to you.
Product turned showed up as a deep purple with the ehrlich test.
That's pretty much why I made this because I am able to pretty much confirm that it's lsd before I even try it.
Turns out it was good L in the end despite the taste, he only took half in the end which shook his ego up and down.
that makes sense, could just be dirt. who knows how it was handled before it got to you.
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Sheekle said: Yeah I'm pretty sure those hoffmans are like the only print going around that's bitter and legit LSD
I would suspect the purity of the crystal is lower. Pure LSD is tasteless, so any taste would be other materials.
This has been discussed before. The 2010 original Hoffmann print was for sure LSD, very strong and CLEAN (I would guess about 150 mcg) and it was very bitter, it was theorized that another chemical was use to "coat" the stamps, kinda like complex-ed nbome to make the LSD resistant to heat and light. The Koi Hoffmann which have been going around the source that shall not be named are also very bitter and they are without a doubt LSD, in fact they have been lab tested at ~110mcg.
For some reason, although it might all be in my head, some batches of Euro acid do not quite feel right. Makes me wonder if sometimes I'm getting a variety of ergotamines, because the American wow always feels the same and its sooooo good, that chemist got it right.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: theRAPeutic]
#18766506 - 08/27/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is that why it's bitter? I figured it was just like how computer paper tastes bitter to me.
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sailing said: what tests exactly are you using? just friends saying "wow this is good shit"?
thats not reliable at all because the majority really dont know their shit, and they cant tell the difference between good clean cid and n-bomb.
the best test to do is a erlich reagent, and even then its tricky because some people will cut the lsd with nbome, so it saves them money, but still shows as lsd on the test.
Product was bought from a vendor with 100% feedback after 1000+ transactions of exclusively lsd. If that makes sense to you.
Product turned showed up as a deep purple with the ehrlich test.
That's pretty much why I made this because I am able to pretty much confirm that it's lsd before I even try it.
Turns out it was good L in the end despite the taste, he only took half in the end which shook his ego up and down.
I think I know what you're talking about. I don't understand how to get bitcoins though.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: Trippie]
#18766620 - 08/27/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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HPBCD is bitter. It could be that cooks have started putting it onto their blotters.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18767305 - 08/28/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: HPBCD is bitter. It could be that cooks have started putting it onto their blotters.
Source? I've read repeatedly that it's sweet and counters bitterness.
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If its a strong bitter taste its not lsd...if it doesn't kick in in about 25 minutes its not lsd. If you are tripping balls longer than 8 hours it is not lsd.
Another thing you have to be aware about prints is legality... if I have crystal why put it on a perfed print? So the cops can look at it and know what it is immediately? But if I have a shitload of NBOME, DOX, ect. I can safely lay on a perfed print depending on the legal status of the chemical. If i have legit lsd crystal I'm gonna put it on white unperfed so if I get busted you just call it your note paper. This point was brought up by china cat, and the logic behind it is bullet proof.
I know there are many cases of white unperfed being bunk, but your best chance of getting legit l is on white unperf.IME
I will probably get flamed to no end for this post, as I have in the past for posts of this nature. Its just if your tabs taste like anything other than a slight 9v battery or tasteless all together....you don't have acid.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
#18767957 - 08/28/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well then explain the bitter taste of the Legit Hoffmans? And what is your definition of trippin balls? My visuals always last till about the 12 hour mark and I KNOW it's Legit. You can't expect every tab to kick in in 25 minutes, especially depending on how many mics. The first time I dropped tabs I swallowed em both on a semi-full stomach and took about an hour. Last week I dropped two more and kicked in in 25 minutes on empty stomach.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
#18768060 - 08/28/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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heratogwea said: If its a strong bitter taste its not lsd...if it doesn't kick in in about 25 minutes its not lsd. If you are tripping balls longer than 8 hours it is not lsd.
Another thing you have to be aware about prints is legality... if I have crystal why put it on a perfed print? So the cops can look at it and know what it is immediately? But if I have a shitload of NBOME, DOX, ect. I can safely lay on a perfed print depending on the legal status of the chemical. If i have legit lsd crystal I'm gonna put it on white unperfed so if I get busted you just call it your note paper. This point was brought up by china cat, and the logic behind it is bullet proof.
I know there are many cases of white unperfed being bunk, but your best chance of getting legit l is on white unperf.IME
I will probably get flamed to no end for this post, as I have in the past for posts of this nature. Its just if your tabs taste like anything other than a slight 9v battery or tasteless all together....you don't have acid.
I only get unperf'd now. You are right. Its more stealth and print really doesn't prove shit.
I used to get purple nebulas 4 years ago, which were strong and legit. About 2 years ago, I found those nebulas again and purchased 6 sheets. After receiving it, I tested it and it wasn't CID. It was bitter and left a long lasting bitterness and numbness. What I'm trying to say is anyone can get any blank blotter and put their RCs on them. The print really doesn't prove shit anymore.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: theRAPeutic]
#18768129 - 08/28/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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tahp93 said: Well then explain the bitter taste of the Legit Hoffmans? And what is your definition of trippin balls? My visuals always last till about the 12 hour mark and I KNOW it's Legit. You can't expect every tab to kick in in 25 minutes, especially depending on how many mics. The first time I dropped tabs I swallowed em both on a semi-full stomach and took about an hour. Last week I dropped two more and kicked in in 25 minutes on empty stomach.
I'm sorry I should have rephrased that..on an empty stomach and blotter left in your mouth almost to the point of disolving you will feel something in 25 miniutes.. and strong effects lasting more than 12 hours is indicative of it not being acid or you eating over a ten strip.
Oh and I would love to see lab results on The hoffmans that are bitter but are "LEGIT". Last real hoffmans I had was back in 07 and they were white not green..and they tasted like paper.
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heratogwea said: If its a strong bitter taste its not lsd...if it doesn't kick in in about 25 minutes its not lsd. If you are tripping balls longer than 8 hours it is not lsd.
Another thing you have to be aware about prints is legality... if I have crystal why put it on a perfed print? So the cops can look at it and know what it is immediately? But if I have a shitload of NBOME, DOX, ect. I can safely lay on a perfed print depending on the legal status of the chemical. If i have legit lsd crystal I'm gonna put it on white unperfed so if I get busted you just call it your note paper. This point was brought up by china cat, and the logic behind it is bullet proof.
I know there are many cases of white unperfed being bunk, but your best chance of getting legit l is on white unperf.IME
I will probably get flamed to no end for this post, as I have in the past for posts of this nature. Its just if your tabs taste like anything other than a slight 9v battery or tasteless all together....you don't have acid.
I only get unperf'd now. You are right. Its more stealth and print really doesn't prove shit.
I used to get purple nebulas 4 years ago, which were strong and legit. About 2 years ago, I found those nebulas again and purchased 6 sheets. After receiving it, I tested it and it wasn't CID. It was bitter and left a long lasting bitterness and numbness. What I'm trying to say is anyone can get any blank blotter and put their RCs on them. The print really doesn't prove shit anymore.
That sucks about the nebs man. I remember the dead bears back in 08-09. Beautiful. One of the best I ever had. Came around again a couple years ago...bitter pieces of shit.
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FakePlasticSky said: I used to get purple nebulas 4 years ago, which were strong and legit. About 2 years ago, I found those nebulas again and purchased 6 sheets. After receiving it, I tested it and it wasn't CID. It was bitter and left a long lasting bitterness and numbness. What I'm trying to say is anyone can get any blank blotter and put their RCs on them. The print really doesn't prove shit anymore.
Interesting, I've always suspected that prints were an unreliable indicator of good LSD. It's dramatically cheaper and easier for producers to buy RCs in bulk from places they're legal than to make real LSD, and so I figured there has to be people making RC fakes of LSD prints that have good reviews. It is the black market after all.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
#18768763 - 08/28/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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tahp93 said: Well then explain the bitter taste of the Legit Hoffmans? And what is your definition of trippin balls? My visuals always last till about the 12 hour mark and I KNOW it's Legit. You can't expect every tab to kick in in 25 minutes, especially depending on how many mics. The first time I dropped tabs I swallowed em both on a semi-full stomach and took about an hour. Last week I dropped two more and kicked in in 25 minutes on empty stomach.
I'm sorry I should have rephrased that..on an empty stomach and blotter left in your mouth almost to the point of disolving you will feel something in 25 miniutes.. and strong effects lasting more than 12 hours is indicative of it not being acid or you eating over a ten strip.
Oh and I would love to see lab results on The hoffmans that are bitter but are "LEGIT". Last real hoffmans I had was back in 07 and they were white not green..and they tasted like paper.
when i ate a tenstrip it lasted exactly 12 hours. they were kinda weak, but it was still about the 500mic range. usually anything less than 250 mics and i feel normal after 8 hours (but its hard to tell how high you are on the come down sometimes.)
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
#18768788 - 08/28/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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heratogwea said: if it doesn't kick in in about 25 minutes its not lsd. quote] lol I might feel slight effects after 25 mins but it takes more like 60-90 for a trip to really get going good
also those hoffmans going around are known to be good clean acid
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: Sheekle]
#18768815 - 08/28/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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heratogwea said: if it doesn't kick in in about 25 minutes its not lsd. quote] lol I might feel slight effects after 25 mins but it takes more like 60-90 for a trip to really get going good
also those hoffmans going around are known to be good clean acid
If its the same hoffs I had a couple years ago I would beg to differ. The effects were not that of lsd. No magic. No serendipity. Extremely bitter. Took 45min to one hour to reach threshold effects...this of course is all IME.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
#18768933 - 08/28/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would highly disagree with the idea that if you don't get effects after 25 minutes you've got bunk shit.
First off, the more of a drug you take the faster it kicks in. I had one friend that took an eighth of shrooms and saw a clown in the mirror after only ~10 minutes, while me on (less of) the same stuff took about 3-4x longer. Second, the amount of food in your stomach and a host of other variables can affect absorption. Third, it consistently takes me 45 minutes for my shit to kick in on acid.
But just check out erowid's duration chart - they say onset takes anywhere from 20 to 60 minutes.
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sonamdrukpa said: HPBCD is bitter. It could be that cooks have started putting it onto their blotters.
Source? I've read repeatedly that it's sweet and counters bitterness.
Yes, actually you are correct.
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Here, some evidence straight from the highest authority:
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"One periodically hears some lecturer holding forth on the subject of psychedelic drugs, and you may hear him give voice to that old rubric that LSD is an odorless, colorless, and tasteless drug. Don't believe it. Odorless yes, and colorless when completely pure, yes, but tasteless, no. It is slightly bitter." (page 21, PIHKAL)
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18769300 - 08/28/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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"One periodically hears some lecturer holding forth on the subject of psychedelic drugs, and you may hear him give voice to that old rubric that LSD is an odorless, colorless, and tasteless drug. Don't believe it. Odorless yes, and colorless when completely pure, yes, but tasteless, no. It is slightly bitter." (page 21, PIHKAL)
Google book search link: http://books.google.com/books?ei=aHEeUtLTGau8sQTns4DoAw&id=O8AdHBGybpcC&dq=pihkal+page+21&q=tasteless#search_anchor
Slightly bitter is a big jump from that paper that's being called "euro lsd". I've had tabs that almost made me dry heave and there are people here calling them legit.
Slightly bitter is not the same as bitter.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
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Bitterness is a subjective thing though. Tastes in general don't really sync up well between people. Methoxetamine, for instance, some people find unspeakably horrible tastin where as I don't find it unpleasant at all really.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: sonamdrukpa]
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sonamdrukpa said: Bitterness is a subjective thing though. Tastes in general don't really sync up well between people. Methoxetamine, for instance, some people find unspeakably horrible tastin where as I don't find it unpleasant at all really.
That's a good point. Isn't there also a very high chance of a placebo effect seen as every single person is almost at the point of expecting bitterness before they drop. I mean, everyone is literally searching for any taste whatsoever, I imagine you'd find something eventually.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: sonamdrukpa]
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I agree to an extent but believe there is a certain threshold of bitter that everyone would agree with.
Its an evolutionary trait. You are able to detect bitter tastes so you can spit said substance out before it kills you (not that everything that is bitter is toxic).
Being hardwired I don't see one person almost vomiting off of something and the other not detecting at all..but I'm getting off topic here.
And host, Placebo would be the 9volt battery feel on my tongue from some good wow. If its bitter its bitter.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
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There's a difference between NBOMe bitter and ink bitter. Experience is the only way to tell the difference.
Usually, I spit out bitter tabs. Not worth the NBOMe risk. Hate that drug.
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Usually, I spit out bitter tabs. Not worth the NBOMe risk. Hate that drug.
Funny you mention that. I got nbombed jusy a few days ago. First put the tab in my mouth and tasted nothing. Couple minutes later a slight bitterness arouse and my whole tongue went numb kept it in my mouth anyway. I had never had it before.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
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Usually, I spit out bitter tabs. Not worth the NBOMe risk. Hate that drug.
Funny you mention that. I got nbombed jusy a few days ago. First put the tab in my mouth and tasted nothing. Couple minutes later a slight bitterness arouse and my whole tongue went numb kept it in my mouth anyway. I had never had it before.
I feel your pain. Not a fan of RC's. Just pure Lucy.
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Ha, let's start the "LSD is/isn't an RC" debate again.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: sonamdrukpa]
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Tis the original
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: heratogwea]
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Had those nasty Hoffmans tested at 98 mics of LSD.
I can hardly stand the taste and usually just swallow them instantly.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: Tripsurfer]
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I can hardly stand the taste and usually just swallow them instantly.
are they still a normal clean lsd trip though
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: Sheekle]
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Its LSD all right.
I have gone through about two sheets of these things and the experiences really vary. I decided to have them tested because of the bitterness and I talked myself into thinking them somewhat dirty, but that was probably because I was overdoing it. Sometimes I get a bit of a sore neck, but that happened on other batches as well. The trips just became more negative each time.
Took one two months back and dropped 100 mgs of MDMA 4 hours in, that was nice.
Last time before that I took two in a wrong setting and got my ass kicked with the world dissolving in midair.
The have been tested in a forensic lab in case you guys wonder about the exact outcome of the test.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Also its not a true bitterness but somehow tastes like I imagine a block of toiletfreshener tastes Real nasty!
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Here are my last ones. They are from 2008 I believe. Tested last year.
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Very nice tripsurfer, what are they tested at?
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: theRAPeutic]
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98 mics
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: Tripsurfer]
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very nice
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Re: Bitter blotter, clean acid [Re: sailing]
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i just realized something.
try saying "bitter blotter" ten times fast
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