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Fruiting chamber in enclosed space
    #18762232 - 08/27/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I was wondering if I can put the fruiting chamber inside this cabinet. The FC would be elevated so would have at least 6 inches of space from the bottom and top. However, all 4 sides would only have about 1-2 inches of space each. The door would stay closed most of the time.

Assume I'm able to mist 3-4 times a day and fan 5-6 times a day with a 12/12 lighting schedule using the PF tek on a cubensis grow.

Would mushrooms still grow in this environment?



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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: spaceships57]
    #18762387 - 08/27/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'd put a 6500K light in there, a thermometer (one on the top and bottom would be even better), and you're going to have to likely at least leave the door cracked and do something to encourage airflow/ventilation for air exchange. It can work, but you're basically putting a fruiting chamber in a bigger fruiting chamber.

That's not a bad thing necessarily, but you're going to have to pay that much more attention to your myco network and thus you'll have more variables to control. Ultimately, so long as you keep growing in there, this would give you more control as the cabinet would act like an environmental buffer, but initially at least it might take more work to figure out the proper way to set it up.

If you can check on it 3-4 times a day you should be able to do it, you just need to know what you're doing and pay attention to what the growth is telling you. Are you doing pf cakes or bulk? I would recommend starting with pf cakes and a SGFC in there before moving to something like a mono.

Also be sure to clean the cabinet well beforehand and realize that over time it's going to need more cleaning as the mushrooms releases gases and liquids which will collect on the surface and potentially attract outside contaminant build up. Again, as you get to notice these however they can be useful indicators to the health of the mushroom, but initially it could prove more work than you set out for. Just use all your senses, be mindful, and pay attention. You can always ask us questions along the way if you have any cause for concern.


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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: krypto2000]
    #18762477 - 08/27/13 03:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely not a good idea


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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: krypto2000]
    #18763523 - 08/27/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd put a 6500K light in there, a thermometer (one on the top and bottom would be even better), and you're going to have to likely at least leave the door cracked and do something to encourage airflow/ventilation for air exchange.





Why two thermometers? The room is a steady ~70 degrees.

I suppose for 8 hours of the day (sometimes more) I would be able to leave the door open.

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Are you doing pf cakes or bulk? I would recommend starting with pf cakes and a SGFC in there before moving to something like a mono.




Yes, I will be doing PF cakes with a SGFC.

Thanks for your help krypto!


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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: spaceships57]
    #18763563 - 08/27/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The two thermometers can help you get an idea of GE/FAE, etc. If you can measure the difference between either the top and bottom of the fruiting chamber or the inside and outside then you can tell how it's doing. If it's having trouble it will start generating a lot of heat or likewise if it's stalling it will start getting colder. You can tell this by measuring the difference in temperature. You want it to be close to ambient as possible so you could simply put a thermometer in the cabinet and then use your thermostat as the 2nd temperature reading. This effectively will allow you to literally feel if something is off. If you're normally comfortable at 72f for instance and that is what your thermostat reads yet you're sweating profusely it means the mycilium is generating too much heat and could use some adjustments, likely GE/FAE, but it really could be anything tbh, you just have to keep playing with it throughout the grow until you get it right. This is why we call it 'dialing in' because it's almost like literally turning knobs until it's just right.


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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: krypto2000]
    #18766344 - 08/27/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

line the inside with a couple layers of plastic and put a tray in the bottom of it with fish tank bubble wands under a layer of perlite and a little water with h2o2 mixed in. then have a rack or shelve above the perlite maybe even 2 shelves or racks depending on how big it is and whats going in it. for lights i would go with soldering led strips from a spool like this here. they are amazingly efficient, generate just about no heat, you would only need like a 6in piece to illuminate the entire thing bright, and are stupid easy to put together :smile:.. :2cents:


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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: Drunk3n Duck]
    #18766508 - 08/27/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Whoa, that sounds a little more complex than I assumed the OP was after, but fucking AWESOME! :mushroom2: :awesome:


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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: krypto2000]
    #18766767 - 08/28/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Idk how we'll thought out this plan is but it's what came to mind first when I read the OP.

Possibly drill a few holes in the door , and do it nice and neat so it doesn't look too odd.
And line the inside with tin foil, and the stip of led lights is a great idea, the foil will allow simple clean up and allow the led to become even brighter. The holes will allow fresh air exchange while not having to have the door open.  Then just set a sgfc inside and have maybe a mini desk fan across the room on low to promote some more FAE.


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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: Drunk3n Duck]
    #18767567 - 08/28/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

with wat im thinking the only holes would be either for the power cord to the fish tank bubbler or the air lines from the bubbler to the wands. and u teqnically dont really need light if that slot in pic will stay un blocked that would let in sum natural light which would help. its just like a big pmp i guess because i doubt the OP wants to put a ton of holes in that, it looks kinda nice lol


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Re: Fruiting chamber in enclosed space [Re: Drunk3n Duck]
    #18775822 - 08/30/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Drunk3n Duck said:
with wat im thinking the only holes would be either for the power cord to the fish tank bubbler or the air lines from the bubbler to the wands. and u teqnically dont really need light if that slot in pic will stay un blocked that would let in sum natural light which would help. its just like a big pmp i guess because i doubt the OP wants to put a ton of holes in that, it looks kinda nice lol




Yea does look nice but like I said I didn't think it threw much just my first thoughts. Really I wld just suggest looking for a better place to place it. If keeping it hidden is a must then don't worry. You can use solid color containers, or think of using a smaller setup.
Use the search function and search, stealth.


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