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Is homosexuality nature's population control 1
#18761331 - 08/26/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What do you think about the theory that nature creates homosexuality in order to keep its population numbers in check? Maybe nature knows that a certain percentage of humans need to be homosexual or else the population will exceed the earth's carrying capacity and put their species in jeopardy. What do you think?
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan] 1
#18761337 - 08/26/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've thought of that before.
Nobody can really know, but it works out
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan] 7
#18761341 - 08/26/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doesn't seem to be working very well.
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I read somewhere that its genetically not feasible for homosexuality to be genetic because gays can't mate and spread the gene. Must be something else.. like all the ecstasy
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Sheekle]
#18761361 - 08/26/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Richard Dawkins speaking with a friend of mine about the possible genetic basis for the gay.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan]
#18761366 - 08/26/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lack of resources is nature's biggest source population control.
Populations boom, then bust - almost always based on resources.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan]
#18761391 - 08/26/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Learyfan said: What do you think about the theory that nature creates homosexuality in order to keep its population numbers in check? Maybe nature knows that a certain percentage of humans need to be homosexual or else the population will exceed the earth's carrying capacity and put their species in jeopardy. What do you think?
Considering there has been homosexuality since the beginning of time, I wouldn't think that it's any kind of "safe" just in case of over population. Also, a lot of homosexual people want children so that's another thing to consider.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan]
#18761432 - 08/26/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Homosexuality certainly is a natural form of population control, but you're going to need to provide me with a little evidence if you want me to believe nature "knows" or somehow intends for it to be this way.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan] 5
#18761452 - 08/26/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Learyfan, you've been here long enough to know that mushrooms is what really turns a person gay.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: SuperD] 3
#18761487 - 08/26/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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SuperD said: Homosexuality certainly is a natural form of population control, but you're going to need to provide me with a little evidence if you want me to believe nature "knows" or somehow intends for it to be this way.
Evolution never knows or intends anything, it just is.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Mycelium-yum] 2
#18761529 - 08/26/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Learyfan said: What do you think about the theory that nature creates homosexuality in order to keep its population numbers in check? Maybe nature knows that a certain percentage of humans need to be homosexual or else the population will exceed the earth's carrying capacity and put their species in jeopardy. What do you think?
Considering there has been homosexuality since the beginning of time, I wouldn't think that it's any kind of "safe" just in case of over population. Also, a lot of homosexual people want children so that's another thing to consider.
That's why I think we need to step up the recruitment - taking breeders out of circulation to make up for the babies we be making.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
#18761533 - 08/26/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Start a militant homosexual sect, koodsypoo.
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More mushroom users= more gay men.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: qman]
#18761678 - 08/26/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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qman said: More mushroom users= more gay men. 
Time to stop eating so much fungus!
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan]
#18761690 - 08/26/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, that would be cancer.
Gay people are having surrogates now and stuff. My brother and his husband are in the process of obtaining a child.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#18761706 - 08/26/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: No, that would be cancer.
Gay people are having surrogates now and stuff. My brother and his husband are in the process of obtaining a child.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Mycelium-yum]
#18761774 - 08/26/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hahaha noo way is that even natural. and whats this mushrooms making people gay? that's not possible. your either gay or not gay. you like women or you like men. nothing makes you that way shiiiiit its your choice. why do they call cigarets Fags? so cigarets make you gay because a lot of gays smoke them
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
#18761799 - 08/26/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The sneaky fucker theory?
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan] 2
#18761805 - 08/26/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's not. Time to find a new reason to explain those thoughts of yours.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: The Phleg] 1
#18761806 - 08/26/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Megatrondon]
#18761813 - 08/26/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Megatrondon said: hahaha noo way is that even natural. and whats this mushrooms making people gay? that's not possible. your either gay or not gay. you like women or you like men. nothing makes you that way shiiiiit its your choice. why do they call cigarets Fags? so cigarets make you gay because a lot of gays smoke them
Mushrooms make you gay.
Face it.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: ganjfather]
#18761847 - 08/26/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mushrooms make you gay.
Face it.
Gay: having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Mycelium-yum]
#18761868 - 08/26/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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fuck feeling merry ahaha i like just staying in bed tripping balls with my lights off and surfing through hyperspace. theirs nothing gay about hyperspace thats for sure.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Megatrondon]
#18761880 - 08/26/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Megatrondon said: fuck feeling merry ahaha i like just staying in bed tripping balls with my lights off and surfing through hyperspace. theirs nothing gay about hyperspace thats for sure.
you don't hallucinate big phallus shaped space ships shooting through hyperspace into black holes........?
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan] 6
#18761922 - 08/26/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think there are a lot of evolutionary reasons for the preservation of homosexuality in the gene pool against what would seem like common sense (that gay people don't reproduce and shouldn't be able to survive). Evolution works in very broad strokes.
IMO bisexuality is the norm and the strong polarity of orientation that we see is accultured. Many people with an admitted history of bisexuality will still call themselves "straight" or "gay" instead of "bisexual". Standards of beauty are also accultured, and among primitive and historical cultures you see much less sex dimorphism (difference in the shape and appearance of males and females), much more fluidity of the genders and much more bisexuality. Until the acceptance of transgender individuals, our culture was somewhat unique in history for its complete lack of a "third gender" role.
Sexual selection must also play a role. IMO sexual orientation isn't a "choice", but it's closer to being one than a lot of LGBT advocates will admit-- this comes back to my assumption that bisexuality is the norm. There is a large practical component involved in one's choice of sexual partners. In other words, one generation might be heterosexual while the next is homosexual due to any number of social-- not genetic-- factors. Furthermore, I think it's mainly social factors that contribute to consistency in sexual preferences as well ("pigeonholing" if you will).
That said, I think the increasing acceptance of homosexuality does reflect the rationalist concern of overpopulation-- since our species recently saw an unprecedented period of exponential reproduction. Imagine, if you will, that a swarm of locusts discovered agriculture, settled down and began having nuclear families-- that's how unprecedented it was. It also seems clear that homosexual bonding has played a very large role in societies throughout history, so it seems reasonable to assume it played a similarly large role in our evolution.
An interesting thing to consider-- rigidly sex-segregated societies often consider homosexuality to be perfectly normal, since it's so easy for one to hide his fuckbuddies at the baths from his spouse. That is not to say there is no homophobia in these societies-- the receptive partner in these societies is always considered subordinate, be they male or female.
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#18761943 - 08/26/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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jewunit said: The sneaky fucker theory? 
That's right. While you and your buds go out to the strip club, I impregnate your girlfriends.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
#18761966 - 08/26/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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jewunit said: The sneaky fucker theory? 
That's right. While you and your buds go out to the strip club, I impregnate your girlfriends.
It's the circle of life.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: The Vapor]
#18761967 - 08/26/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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fuck yea i do that's what im saying. when i trip i forget about all the BS and enjoy what my mind creates. and i got one feel of an imagination from the things ive seen while tripping with my eyes closed. thought i never see shit like people clam with open eyes only when my eyes are closed do my thoughts come to life
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: qman]
#18762178 - 08/27/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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SuperD said: Homosexuality certainly is a natural form of population control, but you're going to need to provide me with a little evidence if you want me to believe nature "knows" or somehow intends for it to be this way.
Evolution never knows or intends anything, it just is.
My point exactly.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: SuperD]
#19731907 - 03/22/14 10:32 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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SuperD said: Homosexuality certainly is a natural form of population control, but you're going to need to provide me with a little evidence if you want me to believe nature "knows" or somehow intends for it to be this way.
I have absolutely no evidence. It just makes sense to me. I just theorize that "nature" makes some of us homosexuals in an attempt to keep the reproduction numbers in check so that we don't breed ourselves into extinction.
Some of you may be thinking "well it's not working so well". That's because mankind hasn't accepted homosexuality completely yet. In fact, I think the rejection of homosexuality is a perversion against nature. Nature made you gay. Stop fighting it by having four kids and a wife to try and look straight. Accept the truth, have some balls and be gay if you were made gay.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan]
#19733632 - 03/22/14 06:56 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Homosexuality has existed since for ever. Its only today that we have given it a the luxury of a pedestal to be loud from.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: snoot] 1
#19733649 - 03/22/14 07:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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snoot said: Homosexuality has existed since for ever. Its only today that we have given it a the luxury of a pedestal to be loud from.
It is only today where it isn't being kept hidden away in the dungeon.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
#19733660 - 03/22/14 07:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know for a fact that I had gay sex as a monkey and was proud.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan]
#19733664 - 03/22/14 07:05 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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For anyone who hasn't heard of it, there's the gay uncle syndrome. Homosexuality has been observed in many species so there must be a genetic benefit to having homosexuals, either way it really doesn't matter.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Repertoire89] 2
#19733695 - 03/22/14 07:20 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: For anyone who hasn't heard of it, there's the gay uncle syndrome. Homosexuality has been observed in many species so there must be a genetic benefit to having homosexuals, either way it really doesn't matter.
I don't think there necessarily has to be some evolutionary benefit to homosexuality for it to exist.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: MorphinTime]
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Repertoire89 said: For anyone who hasn't heard of it, there's the gay uncle syndrome. Homosexuality has been observed in many species so there must be a genetic benefit to having homosexuals, either way it really doesn't matter.
I don't think there necessarily has to be some evolutionary benefit to homosexuality for it to exist.
Yeah that's what I was going to say. It's certainly plausible that there may be some evolutionary benefit to homosexuality, but it does not necessarily follow from the existence of homosexuality that such an evolutionary benefit must exist.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: snoot] 1
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snoot said: Homosexuality has existed since for ever. Its only today that we have given it a the luxury of a pedestal to be loud from.
throughout history homosexuals have had more respect in societies, it wasnt until the rise of rise of Christianity, Islam and Judaism that it's been suppressed, on this contenent prior to the settling of the west and near extermination of indians, homosexuals were revered in the first nations, they were allowed to choose a gender role to live like a male or a female, in ancient rome and greece is was seen in a similar light. even in the east, china is well documented as having homosexuals accepted in the culture, thai kings had both male and female lovers and the thai 'ladyboys' have existed for many centuries. even in the middle east it's only thinly veiled
it's because of the suppression by religion that homosexuals are now on that podium
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: psi]
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
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snoot said: Homosexuality has existed since for ever. Its only today that we have given it a the luxury of a pedestal to be loud from.
It is only today where it isn't being kept hidden away in the dungeon.
Heard you had a thing for dungeons though koods.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: The Vapor]
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I don't know what that means.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods] 1
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Homosexuality has been observed in THOUSANDS of species. It's been figured out that the higher the population of a species in a particular area, the higher the gay percentage is as well. Look at big cities where there are gay areas like Hillcrest in san diego, west hollywood, dallas, chicago, new york, etc etc etc.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: occollegeboi]
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occollegeboi said: Homosexuality has been observed in THOUSANDS of species. It's been figured out that the higher the population of a species in a particular area, the higher the gay percentage is as well. Look at big cities where there are gay areas like Hillcrest in san diego, west hollywood, dallas, chicago, new york, etc etc etc.
I don't think that's why there are more gay people in cities.
I've never seen any research showing a link between higher populations and increased rates of homosexuality. There is a link between number of siblings and homosexuality, though.
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occollegeboi said: Homosexuality has been observed in THOUSANDS of species. It's been figured out that the higher the population of a species in a particular area, the higher the gay percentage is as well. Look at big cities where there are gay areas like Hillcrest in san diego, west hollywood, dallas, chicago, new york, etc etc etc.
I don't think that's why there are more gay people in cities.
I've never seen any research showing a link between higher populations and increased rates of homosexuality. There is a link between number of siblings and homosexuality, though.
In smaller towns, people know each other more, and so people who are gay need to be in the closet. I would assume that there would be a smaller amount of gays in smaller towns.
10% of the people in a large city is a lot more than 10% of the people in a small town.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan]
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Learyfan said: What do you think about the theory that nature creates homosexuality in order to keep its population numbers in check? Maybe nature knows that a certain percentage of humans need to be homosexual or else the population will exceed the earth's carrying capacity and put their species in jeopardy. What do you think?
well, i hate to anthropomorphize nature as if it's this living entity that decides what's best for us (seems quasi religious), but that said, i'm glad some of us naturally don't have children and hope even more straight people decide not to (seems even some straight japenese are culturally getting hip to the idea of the lifestyle benefits to not procreating)
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: CosmicJoke] 1
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All I know is that there is WAAAAAAAY too much traffic on the roads. That traffic comes from people BREEDING and OVERPOPULATING the world. Quit having fucking babies dude. Use birth control.
OH, I know I know I know it just feels so much better to not use a condom but come one, use your brain, use birth control. You lose your hard on with a condom? Ok then take a damn viagra, it will stay hard that way for sure.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: occollegeboi]
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occollegeboi said: All I know is that there is WAAAAAAAY too much traffic on the roads. That traffic comes from people BREEDING and OVERPOPULATING the world. Quit having fucking babies dude. Use birth control.
OH, I know I know I know it just feels so much better to not use a condom but come one, use your brain, use birth control. You lose your hard on with a condom? Ok then take a damn viagra, it will stay hard that way for sure.
if that was a response to me,you're preaching to the choir... agree fully w/ your rant... vasectomy = smell of victory
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: VivaLaMushie]
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Gay people are having surrogates now and stuff.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
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koods said: I've never seen any research showing a link between higher populations and increased rates of homosexuality. There is a link between number of siblings and homosexuality, though.
Apparently scientists speculate that it has to do with how much estrogen the mother produces during pregnancy. Each time a woman becomes pregnant, she produces more and more estrogen each time, which apparently causes a higher likelihood of homosexuality.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan]
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I don't know about Homosexuality but i have had similar thoughts about major epidemics such as the Spanish influenza or the Bubonic Plague being natures way of population control as in the past they would come and claim large amounts of lives. Since the medical industry has grown so has our population as we are able now to cure more disease and illness than before which in turn creates a whole new set of problems got to do with having such a vast population.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Withinity]
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Homosexual animals are always also bisexual and never actual homosexual so it can't be genetically nature
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Learyfan] 1
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Learyfan said: What do you think about the theory that nature creates homosexuality in order to keep its population numbers in check? Maybe nature knows that a certain percentage of humans need to be homosexual or else the population will exceed the earth's carrying capacity and put their species in jeopardy. What do you think?
Homosexuality doesn't keep the population in check since we are already over populated even with the presence of gays.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Patlal]
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At which point did we become overpopulated?
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: The Phleg]
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I feel like there are lots of people jumping on teh ghey bandwagon these days because it's the cool thing to do.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: occollegeboi]
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occollegeboi said: Homosexuality has been observed in THOUSANDS of species. It's been figured out that the higher the population of a species in a particular area, the higher the gay percentage is as well. Look at big cities where there are gay areas like Hillcrest in san diego, west hollywood, dallas, chicago, new york, etc etc etc.
I don't think that's why there are more gay people in cities.
I've never seen any research showing a link between higher populations and increased rates of homosexuality. There is a link between number of siblings and homosexuality, though.
In smaller towns, people know each other more, and so people who are gay need to be in the closet. I would assume that there would be a smaller amount of gays in smaller towns.
10% of the people in a large city is a lot more than 10% of the people in a small town.
I live in a small southern ton with a population of about 800, we have a very high gay population here that are open about it, open enough to have discussions with people about sexuality in public places such as the city administration building
most gay people in smal towns tend to move out to larger cities because it expands their chances of meeting someone they could become involved with in addition to them not being stuck in a small town... the same reason a lot of straight people move out of small towns to larger cities
as for your 10% statistic...
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Population of NYC 8.337 million Population of Los Angeles 3.858 million Population of Chicago 2.715 million Population of San Francisco 825,863
San Francisco is the only one close to that 10% mark, maybe you should check your facts
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: The Phleg]
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The Phleg said: At which point did we become overpopulated?
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Patlal]
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: zappaisgod]
#19736015 - 03/23/14 10:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's entirely urban
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
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koods said: http://www.gallup.com/poll/160517/lgbt-percentage-highest-lowest-north-dakota.aspx
DC is exactly 10%
This report does NOT represent the truth I can guarantee that.
Open-minded democrat states are all in the top because the accept gays more and therefore they aren't ashamed to say "yes". The red states on the other hand where gays gets there asses kicked for saying they are gay are all at the bottom of the list probably because gays are afraid to answer yes.
Also, it is impossible taht onlt 2 to 3% of the population is gay. There are a lot more gays thant that I can guarantee it.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Patlal]
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koods said: http://www.gallup.com/poll/160517/lgbt-percentage-highest-lowest-north-dakota.aspx
DC is exactly 10%
This report does NOT represent the truth I can guarantee that.
Open-minded democrat states are all in the top because the accept gays more and therefore they aren't ashamed to say "yes". The red states on the other hand where gays gets there asses kicked for saying they are gay are all at the bottom of the list probably because gays are afraid to answer yes.
Also, it is impossible taht onlt 2 to 3% of the population is gay. There are a lot more gays thant that I can guarantee it.
I would look a little more closely. First of all the variance state to state is not that great. Then there are the Dakotas. North Dakota is last at 1.7%. S. Dakota is 7th among states 4.4%. Kentucky is 0.1% less than California and 0.1% more than NY. Georgia and Florida more than Connecticut.
I have no quibble with your argument that this probably bullshit. The rest of your analysis is on a par with everything else you say about the US. Ignorant and wrong.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
#19736088 - 03/23/14 10:40 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Prisoner#1]
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He's swishy enough to do it all by himself.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: zappaisgod]
#19736164 - 03/23/14 11:04 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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That DC thing thing "taxation without representation". They put it on their license plates as if its something to be proud of. Isn't something they should be pissed about? Like paying taxes and having no voice?
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Patlal]
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I don't think they are putting it there as if they are proud of it. They are pissed about it. They do get three electors in Pres and Veep elections but don't have a Congressman or Senator since those are reserved to the states.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Patlal]
#19736199 - 03/23/14 11:16 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patlal said: That DC thing thing "taxation without representation". They put it on their license plates as if its something to be proud of. Isn't something they should be pissed about? Like paying taxes and having no voice?
It is supposed to make people aware that DC residents pay federal taxes, but have no voting representation. The plates were made because people are pissed, not proud.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
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It's true man, lots of people are secretly gay or bisexual like the Amish and then continue marrying the opposite sex and having children, and living totally secret lives.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Crystal G]
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Are school shootings population control? What about drunk/geriatric drivers who kill people in cars?
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Byetu]
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as far as the shootings, the recent ones never actually happened so no.
drunk drivers...yes.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: koods]
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Who says Homosexuality is passed down through the homosexuals themselves?
What if it's your mother, and her mother, and her mother's mother.
TL;DR Even Though I Should Because Matttt has some interesting stuff to say: I agree that homosexuality is a way of population control, and is present in many species of the animal kingdom. It may have evolved as a natural way to prevent the overproduction of babies in times when there is lots of food.
BEHOLD... A LIKELY CAUSE
The prenatal hormone theory
The mother produces hormones which signal the development of a fetus. These hormones can also play a role in the development of the Amygdala, which is a part of the brain involved in emotional reactions, facial recognition, and even sexual orientation.
Homosexual male brains and bodies with more or less access to testosterone than heterosexual males during the fetal stage become can become Hypermasculine (Lots of Testosterone) or Hypomasculine (Little Testosterone). This does not mean all gay men are either more or less masculine than heterosexuals, it just means that during early brain development, testosterone levels can change the way your Amygdala is wired and ultimately, influence which gender you can find yourself attracted to. Does this also apply to lesbians except with Estrogens instead of Androgens? The research hasn't been done on ladies yet to my knowledge.
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lazyfingers said: I know for a fact that I had gay sex as a monkey and was proud.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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qman said: More mushroom users= more gay men. 
Time to stop eating so much fungus funguys!
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: hidenseek1]
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I don't see why literally everything has to have some kind of evolutionary need/basis. Why can't homosexuality just be a neutral, neither bad nor good? You could argue that having an anal fetish is population control at work 
I think people in general over think homosexuality. And obviously all statistics regarding homosexuality are null and void because even if everybody that knew they were gay actually admitted it there are probably hundreds of thousands who are confused and not sure if they are gay or bisexual or just weird.
Don't mean to shit on this thread but its a pointless issue to consider, the science of homosexuality I mean (just saying that sounds fucking ridiculous).
Once the social issue of homosexuality is fixed (which will probably be never) people should just stop talking about or studying homosexuality and get on with their lives.
Kind of like the inverse of what we did with homosexuality a century ago, not talking about it because its totally accepted and a waste of time to talk about not because its so taboo
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: bloodsheen]
#19737280 - 03/23/14 04:12 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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bloodsheen said: I don't see why literally everything has to have some kind of evolutionary need/basis. Why can't homosexuality just be a neutral, neither bad nor good? You could argue that having an anal fetish is population control at work 
Yeah I think it stems partly from misunderstanding the processes behind evolution. Evolution is not some conscious planner saying "we need some of this and that trait for population control."
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: psi]
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Yeah I think it stems partly from misunderstanding the processes behind evolution. Evolution is not some conscious planner saying "we need some of this and that trait for population control."
Agreed. I once talked to a hardcore christian about evolution and realized this is essentially what he believed evolution was about.
I told him no, its not like some fish was like "you know what would be cool? If I had a little light to see in the dark." It was just random chemical reactions that created light, the lighted helped the fish survive in darker environments, and the offspring gained more and more light until it became what it is today.
And he was like "Oh, that makes a lot more sense."
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: bloodsheen]
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bloodsheen said: I don't see why literally everything has to have some kind of evolutionary need/basis. Why can't homosexuality just be a neutral, neither bad nor good? You could argue that having an anal fetish is population control at work 
Yeah I think it stems partly from misunderstanding the processes behind evolution. Evolution is not some conscious planner saying "we need some of this and that trait for population control."
Agreed. I once talked to a hardcore christian about evolution and realized this is essentially what he believed evolution was about.
I told him no, its not like some fish was like "you know what would be cool? If I had a little light to see in the dark." It was just random chemical reactions that created light, the lighted helped the fish survive in darker environments, and the offspring gained more and more light until it became what it is today.
And he was like "Oh, that makes a lot more sense."

I don't believe its that random, the evolution of vaccine resistant bacteria would be an easier example than the fish. As new circumstances are thrust on an organism it adapts or faces extinction, I don't think this is a conscious effort anymore than I think red blood cells are conscious of adjusting toward new viruses / bacteria.
Neither does it seem entirely random only to survive based on whether the mutant survives, that may be what anyone believes but its not an opinion I share.
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Prisoner#1]
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DC is exactly 10%
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Re: Is homosexuality nature's population control [Re: Repertoire89]
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Bacteria replicate much faster than fish.
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Bacteria replicate much faster than fish.
Which is why I used them as an example, we can theoretically watch the process of evolution over the course of years instead of eons.
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Oh I misunderstood the independent clause at the beginning
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