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What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs)
#18760836 - 08/26/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I always had trouble sleeping, even through childhood.
Currently, I tried: not smoking weed b4 sleep, no liquids before 8pm, being in bed an hour early. White noise. No caffeine after 12pm. No caffeine at all........
I eat a healthy diet, full of fruits, veggies, nuts and hemp protein, with lots of exercise. I shop 2x a week due to getting the freshest products possible.
Feels like I tried everything, but I know I didn't.
I went through a week of school, and it felt quite debilitating in my current, sleep deprived mental state. I could function, but it was difficult staying focused.
Phenibut came in today. Hope it works been studying this compound for a while now.
What other ways promote a restful sleep?
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Edited by TwinEclipse (08/26/13 06:41 PM)
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18760845 - 08/26/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prescription sleeping pills, of course. Preferably time released.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#18760859 - 08/26/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Physical exertion during the day
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#18760883 - 08/26/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Although taking sleeping pills for sleep seems logical, I wouldn't want to rely on prescription meds to induce my sleep.
obviously, my first choice is going to a doctor for help, but I have no insurance.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: Can-i-bus]
#18760908 - 08/26/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah try this:
- MOVE during the day (with caps lock and everything. Don't just move, MOVE!!!) - take melatonin 30-40 mins before going to sleep.
Obviously you're staying away from alcohol, coffee, pharma pills, grilled junk food and other crap Westerners and especially Americans tend to stuff themselves with, then wonder what's wrong. Avoid TV and computer before bed if you can, sometimes that helps. Sleeping with your significant other in the bed, as opposed to sleeping alone, might help also. Goes without saying that few people have insomnia after a good decent proper screw
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: Spacerific]
#18761076 - 08/26/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fucking will put you to sleep but if your brain is tweeky it won't KEEP you asleep. If your bitch is horny you can fuck her every time you wake up. You'll still be tired the next day but at least you'll have gotten some.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#18761380 - 08/26/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd just take sleeping pills
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Whoa...I think the phenibut is starting to take its effect...it feels kinda nice. Weird to say, but feels like alcohol dizziness. But not sleep inducing lol. Gonna take another 400mg dose. hopefully I can get at least 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep tonight
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18762185 - 08/27/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eating cannabis every night causes me to sleep well. I found phenibut to be useless for anything.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#18762512 - 08/27/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you know how much THC you're eating? I mean, is it like a medical with clear dosing into?
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18762523 - 08/27/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TwinEclipse said: Whoa...I think the phenibut is starting to take its effect...it feels kinda nice. Weird to say, but feels like alcohol dizziness. But not sleep inducing lol. Gonna take another 400mg dose. hopefully I can get at least 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep tonight 
Have you tried any of the things listed, before going for those pills?
Have you tried melatonin? A world of difference between melatonin and sleeping pills.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: Spacerific]
#18762766 - 08/27/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am very suprised.. I woke up tonight, but fell back alseep within minutes!
I feel a little foggy, but I just woke up. Also...I feel a 'buzz'. I can't describe it. I feel warm inside and fuzzy.
This stuff works! I don't believe it! After such a looooong time. Man. I can't wait til I go to sleep tonight. I can't wait to dream again. So excited. I think I can finally feel rested. It's been so long that I forgot what a full night's sleep felt like.
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TwinEclipse said: Whoa...I think the phenibut is starting to take its effect...it feels kinda nice. Weird to say, but feels like alcohol dizziness. But not sleep inducing lol. Gonna take another 400mg dose. hopefully I can get at least 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep tonight 
Have you tried any of the things listed, before going for those pills?
Have you tried melatonin? A world of difference between melatonin and sleeping pills.
I don't get phenibut in pills. I get it's purest form in HCL crystalline form with a 400-600mg scooper. Phenibut is derived from GABA, which occurs naturally in the brain. From what I read from weeks of studying it, is that it works wonders.
I also read that it acts like a benzo, and is susceptible to addiction, tolerance and withdrawal. This isn't something to take daily, but for the most sleepless nights. Only thing is that it takes a while for it to take effect.
I have some melatonin in my cabinet. I haven't used it in a long time. I may consider trying it again tonight. Reason I stopped is because I read an article stating that melatonin Is a hormone and that marijuana raises melatonin levels better than taking melatonin itself. I have not seen any REAL, VALIDATED reports though, just posts/threads/articles on the net. I would like to see it in a study.
Also, I haven't tried pulling the rooster before sleep. haven't thought of that one. Usually I'm so tired/sore I just lay there til I zone out. Will try this too
Thanks for the advice
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Edited by TwinEclipse (08/27/13 07:36 AM)
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#18762896 - 08/27/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: Do you know how much THC you're eating? I mean, is it like a medical with clear dosing into?
I have a med card with exceptional delivery services. However, I tend not to smoke before sleeping. I have been smoking for years, and although it puts you in the comfortable, relaxed mood, it doesn't help me sleep well. Before, it would knock me out. Now weed affects me differently. Probably because I'm such a pothead I dab a lot. That stuff messes with your tolerance on the long run lol
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18762918 - 08/27/13 08:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Exercise and physical exhaustion during the day and at bed time, jacking off, then drinking myself to sleep while watching Firefly.

Sometimes ASMR is helpful for falling asleep. Youtube it. Gotta find the right trigger for you personally.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#18766059 - 08/27/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I make cannabis butter using 8oz of leaf to 1lb of butter, put it into caps. My tolerance goes down when I take them every day. I'm getting really wasted on one cap now. Sometimes waiting till bed time before taking a cap when I'm wanting to function. I so not cannabis. My insomnia was really making my life hell before I figured this out.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#18766115 - 08/27/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have plenty of coconut oil left I usually eat some after a good workout. Lasted me more than a week
Not taking phenibut tonight..gonna eat a piece of some refrigerated oil
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18766161 - 08/27/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not sleeping sucks, I know how you feel. Sleep is not my best friend and when I do fall asleep I dream like crazy and don't ever seem to feel rested. If I am lucky to not dream one night I feel rested the next day. You should get some weed that is high CBD, that knocks me out and keeps me asleep for the most part. Natural supplements are better then pharmaceuticals. I have taken some before but stopped because the side effects actually kept me awake. Keep with the all natural routine. Over time it will get better.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: OmniDimensional]
#18767278 - 08/28/13 05:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Darn AVB edibles wasn't enough. Woke up 3 times today -____- gonna take a tinkle and get 1 hr at least before a full day of chemistry and English.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18768073 - 08/28/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tried those melatonin pills yet? For me they work for at least 5-6 good hours of sleep on a bad day, sometimes 8-9 or more. Also the sleep is deeper, nice dreams. Feels
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: Spacerific]
#18768083 - 08/28/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Drink a cup of milk, then masturbate.
Thank me later.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18768369 - 08/28/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Intense cardio and weed are about the only thing that has helped my insomnia. It use to be really bad but now its pretty manageable.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18769050 - 08/28/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eating cannabis every night has led to very rare sleepless nights. It did not work immediately, at first there were plenty of late nights of cannabis joy.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#18772115 - 08/29/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Took phenibut last night. Only 1 400mg dose RIGHT BEFORE sleep. Knocked out at 8. Woke up at 5;30!!!! And went back to sleep in minutes. now I'm up again. That's 11 hours, 9 hr +2. Still feel a little foggy but damn man. I haven't slept for more than 4 hours uninterrupted for LITERALLY MONTHS!
Tonight, I will: Buy and Try the melatonin. Checked the cabinet yesterday and it wasn't there...someone had been using it the year I haven't
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18773016 - 08/29/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Someone was probably getting boatloads of quality sleep with it, while you were tormenting yourself with all manner of strange overpriced pills 
Hope it works for ya. If it does, you'll find they leave no groggy feelings the next day, no side effects, you actually wake up rested and fine. Give it 2-3 days to kick in, taking it at the same hour of the evening. It's not just to put you down once, it's a sleep cycle restoring thing, like for jetlag. Might take a few days to kick in, but when it does you'll sleep like a baby.
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Re: What helps you STAY asleep? (Insomniacs) [Re: Spacerific]
#18773126 - 08/29/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If the Melatonin and Phenibut don't work for you, try some relaxing teas if you haven't already.
Most people are jealous of my sleeping patterns. I'm basically able to fall asleep at my own whim, at any time I choose, and the sleep that I get no matter how long or how many times I wake up is always good.
I think the reason for this is because over the years I've become slightly addicted to sleeping, so I tend to enjoy it as recreation haha.
If smoking good bud doesn't help with the sleep, try smoking a decent amount of keif, that stuff always makes my eyelids heavy, practically forcing me to pass out. If you're an oil smoker I'm not sure if smoking keif will help you much though.
Also, don't think about falling asleep when you're trying to fall asleep, But you probably already know that.
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DurbanFlavioEric said:
Also, don't think about falling asleep when you're trying to fall asleep, But you probably already know that.
I didn't :o
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