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Syria is about to be hit.
    #18760431 - 08/26/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



I think Obama is going to get UN approval, UN inspectors were shot at by snipers and one of their vehicles disabled, apparently Assad is trying to stonewall inspections, which in a warzone isn't hard to do. Russia is in a pisser because the US is about to lose what little influence they have in another mid-east country. It really doesn't matter about the chemical weapons, I don't see how it matters whether a bomb drops on you or gas. I also know the USA would love to see Assad fall, it would put Hezbollah into a nasty situation, their supply lines completely cut, Iran would lose its pressure on Israel. Russia and China will try to veto whatever combat operations undertaken. We may see serious action because if the country falls and secularists from the FSA are stamped out and Jihadists like Nusra front and Islamic State in Iraq and Levant take power, they will have arms depots and whatever to pick from, it will be very very bad, This can fuck up immediately, or it could be a swift successful operation. You never know with war.




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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18760482 - 08/26/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If Assad falls what comes next? 

I guess we know where Saddam's chemical weapons went now, don't we?


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18760874 - 08/26/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If Assad falls what comes next? 

I guess we know where Saddam's chemical weapons went now, don't we?




Who knows what will happen, if the jihadists gain the upperhand they have a pick of the litter of immense amounts of weapon depots, ordinance depots, air bases, military bases, armouries. Is the US just going to bomb certain targets, cripple Assad's troops and let the rebels do the rest, or are we going to directly influence events, im thinking the latter, operations on a limited scale just to topple Assad and hope that because of our gesture of goodwill folks will naturally like us and pro-western regime is emplaced.

Now, the Jihadi's and Salafists shoot themselves in the foot, any time they take power, their terrorizing ways and brutality against civilians turns people away from their cause. Lots of militia's make up the FSA, but Jabhat al Nusra and ISIL are uncontrollable, and recent infighting between groups shows how shaky their relationship is.

We need to throw our chips behind the right people, secularists in the FSA should be it, but whether they have the power, most people resent Al Qaeda and Al Nusra front because they are seen as foreigners and only allowed because they need fighters. I think if Assad is toppled the jihadi's will be ran out of town, this I hope. Any time they are given the reigns of government their thuggish ways turn the people against them.



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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: The_Red_Crayon] * 3
    #18760904 - 08/26/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It wasn't the people who overthrew the Taliban and Iran is still run by lunatic nutcases.  Turkey is turning less and less secular and Egypt is anybody's guess.  I'm going to guess that whoever overturns Assad will be less secular.  I can hope otherwise, as I'm sure you do, but I do not find it likely.

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    #18761550 - 08/26/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There's no evidence any of assads troops fired on the inspectors in fact they were helping guard them.  Most likely it was the rebel terrorists.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18761580 - 08/26/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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There's no evidence any of assads troops fired on the inspectors in fact they were helping guard them.  Most likely it was the rebel terrorists.



exactly, we are being lied to again and again. ...

the apocalypse could very well be around the corner in my opinion.
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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18761795 - 08/26/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hope is a bird that has long flown away in the middle east.




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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: imachavel]
    #18761980 - 08/26/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Agree


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Icelander]
    #18762999 - 08/27/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The fact of the matter is that this is frankly none of our business. Obama is a madman that is wet at the idea of WWIII, and Syria may very well be his golden ticket.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Veil of Maya]
    #18763072 - 08/27/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The warmongers pretend to be bold and righteous while in reality they are scared shitless of the possibility they've been rooting for the wrong team this whole time. They blithely accept whatever is decreed about foreign policy as the truth, then repeat the decree endlessly on various forums.

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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: SWEDEN]
    #18763191 - 08/27/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hello iran :eek:


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: dakotaellis166] * 2
    #18763764 - 08/27/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The world is so fucked up. Fucking hell get a grip you psychopaths.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18763765 - 08/27/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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There's no evidence any of assads troops fired on the inspectors in fact they were helping guard them.  Most likely it was the rebel terrorists.





It doesn't matter, that assshole autocrat could of just left, took his daddy's money and went into exile, no, instead he is destroying his own country and 80% of the population, piece by piece, This war needs to be stopped, its ferocity is growing out of control, and it could push a general conflagration between Sunni vs Shiia if nothing is done, It needs be ended soon. It is directly destabilizing Lebanon and Iraq, Al Nusra Front has already emerged with a giant swath of territory in N. Syria already butting heads with Kurdish PYD. Do you suppose we let them take over.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18764273 - 08/27/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My face when Muslims spend centuries killing each other when God is consciousness.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: circastes]
    #18764480 - 08/27/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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My face when Muslims spend centuries killing each other when God is consciousness.




And we should allow genocide to occur blindly, We should act with complete ambivalence if their was another Rwanda, because Syria is at out of control stages of violence and millions of civilians are refugee's fleeing into lesser warzones like Iraq to escape the bloody apocalypse that Syria has become it is a humanitarian fucking nightmare, bodies rot in the streets, hospitals routinely bombed, civilians sniped, whole cities destroyed, the ancient UNESCO heritage sites in Allepo like the ancient Suq have been gutted by fire. It is tearing at the very fabric of the mid-east between Sunni and Shiaa relations this could explode in our face if we don't put a lid on it, or it can if we do. So I dunno.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: The_Red_Crayon] * 2
    #18764558 - 08/27/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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My face when Muslims spend centuries killing each other when God is consciousness.




And we should allow genocide to occur blindly, We should act with complete ambivalence if their was another Rwanda, because Syria is at out of control stages of violence and millions of civilians are refugee's fleeing into lesser warzones like Iraq to escape the bloody apocalypse that Syria has become it is a humanitarian fucking nightmare, bodies rot in the streets, hospitals routinely bombed, civilians sniped, whole cities destroyed, the ancient UNESCO heritage sites in Allepo like the ancient Suq have been gutted by fire. It is tearing at the very fabric of the mid-east between Sunni and Shiaa relations this could explode in our face if we don't put a lid on it, or it can if we do. So I dunno.




Since when is war genocide? Attacking Syria will start world war three, are you aware of this? Do you think Russia, China, and Iran are just joking around? Russia's only warm water port is in Syria, you bet your ass they will fight for it.

It's none of our damn business anyway, we are not the world's police. We need to stay far away from this.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: setb]
    #18764713 - 08/27/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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My face when Muslims spend centuries killing each other when God is consciousness.




And we should allow genocide to occur blindly, We should act with complete ambivalence if their was another Rwanda, because Syria is at out of control stages of violence and millions of civilians are refugee's fleeing into lesser warzones like Iraq to escape the bloody apocalypse that Syria has become it is a humanitarian fucking nightmare, bodies rot in the streets, hospitals routinely bombed, civilians sniped, whole cities destroyed, the ancient UNESCO heritage sites in Allepo like the ancient Suq have been gutted by fire. It is tearing at the very fabric of the mid-east between Sunni and Shiaa relations this could explode in our face if we don't put a lid on it, or it can if we do. So I dunno.




Since when is war genocide? Attacking Syria will start world war three, are you aware of this? Do you think Russia, China, and Iran are just joking around? Russia's only warm water port is in Syria, you bet your ass they will fight for it.

It's none of our damn business anyway, we are not the world's police. We need to stay far away from this.





How is Russia going to use what little Syrian coastline their is in the middle of a warzone, no Genocide and war are not the same, but they go quite together well hand in hand, it took the Congo civil war to ignite sufficient ethnic tensions between Hutu's and Tutsi's that led to a  massacre, the break away wars in the Sudan led to the ethnic "cleansing" of non-arab blacks.

If something doesn't happen, we will see a massacre of maybe Christians, maybe Sunni's, maybe Kurds, if the rebels take Latakia, I would not want to be a Alawite, Islamic State of Iraq and Levant has already carved itself out a ministate in the north of Syria, their already sweeping through Alawite strongholds and the SAA is in total stalemate, if something doesn't give it really could turn into wwiii anyhow, I don't think Russia and China are going to sabotage themselves, they sell weapons to Assad, but they aren't going to put their necks out for him. They have a lovely seat on the security council to stonewall any UN efforts at brokering a resolution in Syria. The world is a bitter place, if We can get Assad out then maybe we can hasten this war to its conclusion instead of another 3 years of more people dieing, more refugees, of Syria burning ever more to the ground.





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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18764744 - 08/27/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Both sides are pieces of shit and the only reason we are going to get involved is because the fucking empty pants cunt in the Oval Office made an idiotic pronouncement last year about red lines and his face must be saved.  The best thing the asshole ever says is nothing.

Also pieces of shit, the Russians and Chinese.  Iran is no threat at all right now but they are seeing quite clearly the worth of empty pants cunt's threats.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18764769 - 08/27/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Both sides are pieces of shit and the only reason we are going to get involved is because the fucking empty pants cunt in the Oval Office made an idiotic pronouncement last year about red lines and his face must be saved.  The best thing the asshole ever says is nothing.

Also pieces of shit, the Russians and Chinese.  Iran is no threat at all right now but they are seeing quite clearly the worth of empty pants cunt's threats.




Yea, I agree the whole chemical weapons crap smells like shit, what little attacks there were of them haven't really even been verified yet and the rebels in some instances have used chemical weapons themselves. We have no credibility left anyhow, but the Saudi's and the gulf states got a strong disliking for Assad, and this goes to Iran and Hezbollah and a running feud stretching a few dozen centuries back.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18765003 - 08/27/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The US and its allies have neen involved since the beginning covertly.  The reason this has flared up so muvh is because of the support they have been giving the rebels already.  They want to destablize Syria.  But just go back to sleep and watch tv or video games like the rest of the fucking coward Sheep.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18765163 - 08/27/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's not like yoThe US and its allies have neen involved since the beginning covertly.  The reason this has flared up so muvh is because of the support they have been giving the rebels already.  They want to destablize Syria.  But just go back to sleep and watch tv or video games like the rest of the fucking coward Sheep.





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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18765316 - 08/27/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The US and its allies have neen involved since the beginning covertly.  The reason this has flared up so muvh is because of the support they have been giving the rebels already.  They want to destablize Syria.  But just go back to sleep and watch tv or video games like the rest of the fucking coward Sheep.




This is not true, The US doesn't have barely any intelligence capabilities in Syria, we haven't gave rebels shit, yet... Whose they? They want to destabilize Syria, Syria was destabilized because Assad wouldn't back reforms so his people went out on the streets and protested which he then promptly tried to quash the protests which turned into a civil war, I don't see some vast US conspiracy that's absurd...


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18765335 - 08/27/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18765339 - 08/27/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hold up bro.  You might want to tackle simple spelling and grammer before you try to comprehend geo politics.

there is no evidence Assad killed unarmed protest groups.  He did kill some rebels who took up arms early on though.  I saw the videos of the so called "unarmed protestors" with rifles in their hands.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18765391 - 08/27/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/27/hagel-syria-cruise-missiles/2710945/
I really didn't think this Would happened because of Russia, but it looks like they're seriously considering this


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins] * 2
    #18765470 - 08/27/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hold up bro.  You might want to tackle simple spelling and grammer before you try to comprehend geo politics.

there is no evidence Assad killed unarmed protest groups.  He did kill some rebels who took up arms early on though.  I saw the videos of the so called "unarmed protestors" with rifles in their hands.




Simple spelling and "grammer"? You mean "grammar" spelling and grammar are not what I am here to debate, but maybe you should fix yours before looking at mine. Really no evidence of Assad killing unarmed protestors? A simple google search says otherwise, bro...


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18765484 - 08/27/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Google Is not a legitimate source.  You can find references for just about anything in a google search.

while the media was saying assad was firing on unarmed protestors I saw videos of "protestors" carrying and firing rifles.  The media lies and you were tricked.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18765499 - 08/27/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Im awaiting your proof...

but I think your fucking b.s. both sides are bad and take out atrocities, blindly denying it is fucking retarded.





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    #18765546 - 08/27/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Those videos prove nothing.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins] * 1
    #18765705 - 08/27/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Proves there is some killing going on.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18765949 - 08/27/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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There's no evidence any of assads troops fired on the inspectors




Neither is there any evidence that they didn't fire on the inspectors.


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    #18765956 - 08/27/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Attacking Syria will start world war three, are you aware of this? Do you think Russia, China, and Iran are just joking around? Russia's only warm water port is in Syria, you bet your ass they will fight for it.




No they won't.  Their interests lie elsewhere.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18765974 - 08/27/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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there is no evidence Assad killed unarmed protest groups.




Lollipop.


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    #18766227 - 08/27/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Show it.

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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18767424 - 08/28/13 07:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Show it.





For example:

http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/syria1211webwcover_0.pdf

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This report focuses on the individual and command responsibility of Syrian military commanders and intelligence officials for these crimes. It is based on interviews with 63 defectors both from the army and from the intelligence agencies, generally known as the mukhabarat. These defectors shared with Human Rights Watch detailed information about their units’ participation in violations and the orders they received from commanders at different levels. The defectors pr ovided information on violatio ns that occurred in seven of Syria’s fourteen governorates: Damascus, Daraa, Homs, Idlib, Tartous, Deir al-Zor, and Hama.




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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: circastes] * 1
    #18767948 - 08/28/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The world is so fucked up. Fucking hell get a grip you psychopaths.



No fucking kidding. This shit makes me sick. Not to mention utterly destitute of hope in the human race. :facepalm:

So fucking what if they used chemical weapons? Are the bombs that we're going to be blowing up schools and hospitals with any better? What, are we going in to assure the Syrians are killed with the right kind of weapon?

All the rationalizations aside, war is government sanctioned mass murder. Throwing another military into a civil war cannot and will not make things better. War is not the answer; it's not even an answer. It's the problem. Thousands of years of trying to solve problems through war has left us with... guess what? Just more fucking wars.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: NetDiver] * 1
    #18769592 - 08/28/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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War is not the answer; it's not even an answer. It's the problem. Thousands of years of trying to solve problems through war has left us with... guess what? Just more fucking wars.




That's really profound man.  So how exactly do you propose the Syrians settle this situation then?  Considering there is already a war going on there and stuff...


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    #18769663 - 08/28/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How about nato countries put pressure and sanctions on countries like turkey quatat and saufi arabia who are shipping in gins and mercinaries?


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    #18769666 - 08/28/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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How about nato countries put pressure and sanctions on countries like turkey quatat and saufi arabia who are shipping in gins and mercinaries?



Gin again?


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    #18769856 - 08/28/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lol :smile: that was kinda funny  crates man crates and crates of gins.

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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18770598 - 08/28/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You sound like a total shill for Iran, so what, is Iran the good guys and poor Assad is being picked on by all his arab neighbors. Last I checked Qatar wasn't bombing and maiming its people by the thousands, neither were any other countries you mentioned as being "thugs".

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    #18773400 - 08/29/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    Attacking Syria will start world war three, are you aware of this? Do you think Russia, China, and Iran are just joking around? Russia's only warm water port is in Syria, you bet your ass they will fight for it.



No they won't.  Their interests lie elsewhere.




Russia sends warships to Mediterranean as Syria tension rises

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-syria-crisis-russia-navy-idUSBRE97S0AK20130829

Well Mr. Genius president, tell me how that "reset button" is working out for ya. You know how he will have more "flexibility after his reelection". I believe he meant he will be more flexible, as in the next time he bows to his Saudi masters he will be able to further make a mockery out of the US by not only being a submissive bitch, but by also simultaneously fellating their leaders.


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    #18773714 - 08/29/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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    #18774797 - 08/29/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Obama doesn't actually want to be involved in Syria, and neither does Putin.

All Russia wants is a distraction from places where it really wants to increase its influence--mostly in the former Soviet sphere.

All Obama wants is to save face for last year's comments.


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    #18776279 - 08/30/13 07:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In other words business as usual.


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    #18776671 - 08/30/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Obama doesn't actually want to be involved in Syria, and neither does Putin.

All Russia wants is a distraction from places where it really wants to increase its influence--mostly in the former Soviet sphere.

All Obama wants is to save face for last year's comments.




I couldn't sum  it up better myself...


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    #18778181 - 08/30/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Obama doesn't actually want to be involved in Syria, and neither does Putin.

All Russia wants is a distraction from places where it really wants to increase its influence--mostly in the former Soviet sphere.

All Obama wants is to save face for last year's comments.




I couldn't sum  it up better myself...




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    #18778823 - 08/30/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-03-290813.html

UN debate stalls US attack on Syria
By Kaveh L Afrasiabi

NEW YORK - At the United Nations, despite the threat of a United States missile attack on Syria, momentum is actually shifting away from imminent action in favor of a more patient "wait and see" approach spearheaded by the secretary-general Ban Ki-Moon.

On Wednesday, the Russian and Chinese delegation walked out of a Security Council emergency meeting on Syria triggered by a United Kingdom draft resolution calling for humanitarian military intervention in Syria "to save civilian lives" in light of the recent ghastly chemical weapon attack that the US, UK and France insist without a shadow of doubt was the work of the Syrian regime.



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    #18778844 - 08/30/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The only people who want this strike to happen are the Obama sycophants because it will make him look like the ass he is if he does nothing.  President Empty Pants needs to learn that if you make a threat you better be prepared to back it up and lawyers are not generally held to that standard.  They are accustomed to making idle threats


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    #18778897 - 08/30/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh well, that country is fucked. At this point us helping Syria is basically about a political pissing status. Obama wants to re start the cold war.

The way I see it, unfortunately, lot's of people are going to die. Us getting involved or not will only be a game of our long term relations with other countries.

Personally, since China is arming the opposite side Obama wants to arm, I'd assume once again it's stupid to piss off a country we owe so much money to. I know you couldn't care less about that, but to make it short I agree Obama is a retard. Maybe he should arm the other side, fuck it, how much more un popular can he get? Cold war sucks but perhaps it's inevitable.

I hate to be greedy and act as though I only care about the status of my country and not Syria. But honestly why shouldn't I? Their country is fucked, mine isn't as fucked as theirs is. In tough times, watch thy own back. Says so in the bible


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    #18778965 - 08/30/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh well, that country is fucked. At this point us helping Syria is basically about a political pissing status. Obama wants to re start the cold war.




No he doesn't.  He wants to save face.  And the cold war never ended.
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The way I see it, unfortunately, lot's of people are going to die. Us getting involved or not will only be a game of our long term relations with other countries.




Lots of people are going to die.  Lots of people have died already and lots more will with or without our protecting some idiot's reputation.  The whole world has known he is a feckless cunt since before he got elected
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Personally, since China is arming the opposite side Obama wants to arm, I'd assume once again it's stupid to piss off a country we owe so much money to.




Why?  If they don't like it they can fuck off.  Who gives a shit how much the federal government owes China.  If I were them I would be more concerned than us.
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I know you couldn't care less about that, but to make it short I agree Obama is a retard. Maybe he should arm the other side, fuck it, how much more un popular can he get? Cold war sucks but perhaps it's inevitable.[

I hate to be greedy and act as though I only care about the status of my country and not Syria. But honestly why shouldn't I? Their country is fucked, mine isn't as fucked as theirs is. In tough times, watch thy own back. Says so in the bible




There is no good guy in Syria.  They both suck all kinds of ass.  UK says no.  Congress says no.  The UN will say no.  The American people say no.  The only people who say yes are those who care about Obama's reputation above all else.  A big part of that is wanting a Negro quarterback to look like he is succeeding even when he throws more picks than TDs.


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    #18779381 - 08/30/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I like how everyone is saying obama is a retard, no shit?

but really its the american people who are the biggest retards, after sll they voted for him.  Be carefil what you wish for.


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Re: Syria is about to be hit. [Re: Shins]
    #18780688 - 08/31/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can assure you I didn't vote for him.  I've loathed him since I first became aware of him.


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    #18780783 - 08/31/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't vote for him either, fuck...


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