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Why trippers are better than non-trippers
#18760202 - 08/26/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would have to go with they have better stories.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: LuxLuthier]
#18760281 - 08/26/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Hobozen]
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More entertaining, don't care how it sounds but I don't make a habit of hanging out with sober people. Buzz kills
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Repertoire89]
#18760957 - 08/26/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: redgreenvines]
#18763825 - 08/27/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know that I can say one is "better" than the other but psychonauts tend to come across as more genuine, less guarded. That doesn't hold true for all, but in my experience it seems rare to come across someone with mulitple psychedelic experiences who is still caught up in the mundane existance that most americans tend to live. Maybe they inherently rebuke this and that's why their open to experimentation in the first place...and my own experience confirms this possibility in me...
but in general I would say trippers have a genuine quality to them.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Astrodelic]
#18764199 - 08/27/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wish I could have been a tripper but the next day is like how Charles Manson must have been just before shit hit the fan.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Astrodelic]
#18764359 - 08/27/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Astrodelic said: I don't know that I can say one is "better" than the other but psychonauts tend to come across as more genuine, less guarded. That doesn't hold true for all, but in my experience it seems rare to come across someone with mulitple psychedelic experiences who is still caught up in the mundane existance that most americans tend to live. Maybe they inherently rebuke this and that's why their open to experimentation in the first place...and my own experience confirms this possibility in me...
but in general I would say trippers have a genuine quality to them.
IME trippers are mostly raver/festival/party people and/or spiritual seekers. Then you have the remaining psychonauts.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18764409 - 08/27/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I guess the only thing I've defined as trippers in my mind are psychedelic users...
and I've never been to a festival or a rave so my opinions are skewed towards my experiences.
I also tend to be attracted to people/ideas who display great depth and a genuine quality so I can see my how my own opinions would be skewed by that as well.
Perhaps it was best if I didn't try to answer this question lol.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Astrodelic]
#18764457 - 08/27/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I also tend to be attracted to people/ideas who display great depth and a genuine quality so I can see my how my own opinions would be skewed by that as well.
Are you able to specifically explain episodes where deep ideas from people changed your perspectives while tripping?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18764493 - 08/27/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes.
I can also explain when deep ideas changed my perspective of life while not tripping (most notably: quantum physics)
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Astrodelic]
#18764537 - 08/27/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes.

Will you share?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18764554 - 08/27/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes. I'm about to go to class but I'll pm you later.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18764626 - 08/27/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said: IME trippers are mostly raver/festival/party people and/or spiritual seekers. Then you have the remaining psychonauts.
This.
I'd describe myself as a psychonaut, but not a tripper. Although I think the whole scene is cool, I can't really connect with the tie-dyed/dreads/yogi crowd. Most people who know me would be shocked to know what I get up to.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Global_Roaming]
#18764723 - 08/27/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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How do you trip?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18764808 - 08/27/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said: How do you trip?
Shrooms, by myself at home. Hope to add DMT and salvia to the list shortly. I'm not aware of a single other psychonaut in this entire country (this is a small, isolated place) - my GF doesn't count as she's not really into it, just tolerates my inner excursions.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18765088 - 08/27/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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^ I'm a consultant, of sorts, in an international context. My jobs get me mixed up with a wide spectrum of people/environments - from diplomats and senior government (including Presidents, Prime Ministers, Ministers, Secretaries etc) to grass-roots communities in the middle of nowhere (even met people who literally live in a cave, as their ancestors have done for tens of thousands of years). It gives me a lot to think about, and I think the occasional psychedelics help me navigate my way, and ironically, keep me grounded. If I could go back in time and reinvent myself, I'd chose to be a quantum physicist (I love reading all that stuff - they're the real trippers, IMO).
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Global_Roaming]
#18765107 - 08/27/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Expanding consciousness can help broaden the mind. I like people that are interesting, exciting, and intelligent. Many of them also trip and have that constant sense of curiosity in life.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18765114 - 08/27/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm doing better now in college since I've quit using.
Sobriety rules!
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OrgoneConclusion said: I would have to go with they have better stories.
I used to think it was a pointer to other aspects of their character like intellectual, spiritual, deep thinkers, revolutionaries, courageous, seekers of truth...but that was a load of bs as I soon found out
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: lolwut]
#18767704 - 08/28/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trippers aren't better then other people. Nobody is better then anybody, we are all the same imho a pixel of the picture.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: spacer]
#18768112 - 08/28/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: OrgoneConclusion] 1
#18768121 - 08/28/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Nobody is better then than anybody
What if he meant that no one is better, then afterward, anybody is?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Raven Gnosis]
#18768152 - 08/28/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trippers to me just seem to be cooler ppl in general just more laid back and open minded
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Psychotria] 1
#18771555 - 08/29/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its like asking "why do weight lifters have stronger, bigger muscles than non weight lifters" Stretch the muscle: The muscle grows Stretch the mind: The mind grows
The minds of your children will have greater capacity even. IF used in mind enhancing applications with such an intention.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18775601 - 08/29/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trippers ARE better than non-trippers
Trippers are spiritual, naturalistic, wise, optimistic, radical , psychedelic and shimmering glimmering jewels of enlightenment
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The Pub is proof of your testimonial.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18776176 - 08/30/13 05:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Strange...
I seem to have met just as many "trippers" who are scathing wastes of opposable thumbs as I have who are not. And the opposite, I have met many people who have never or rarely use psychedelics who seem inspiring and delightful. I think it is pretty silly to consider people who trip to automatically be more free of all the behavior that tend to make a human a total douche.
Then again, I live in an area where meeting people who have had or still use psychedelics isn't uncommon at all.
I kind of feel they are neutral tools and intent plays a much more important role in regards to how a person is or isn't effected by them. But this is my first post /me waves and I may just be taking this topic entirely too seriously lol. /me shrugs
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: caogomi]
#18776183 - 08/30/13 05:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Pub is proof of your testimonial.
Welcome to PS&P!
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good one
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18776310 - 08/30/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think trippers are often more like
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Whereas non-trippers are straight
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: birdland]
#18779465 - 08/30/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Novel experiences tend to create interesting personalities.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18779535 - 08/30/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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good one

Seriously though, taking mushrooms once a month does not make you better than anyone
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Almost anyone who is curious about the world will be interested in psychedelics. Curiosity drives intelligence. And of course intelligent people are more enjoyable to be around for a great number of reasons.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Eric573]
#18779872 - 08/31/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eric573 said: Almost anyone who is curious about the world will be interested in psychedelics. Curiosity drives intelligence. And of course intelligent people are more enjoyable to be around for a great number of reasons.
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Quote:
EternalCowabunga said:
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Icelander said:
good one

Seriously though, taking mushrooms once a month does not make you better than anyone
That's true but it might help you to be more aware.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18780440 - 08/31/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18780819 - 08/31/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tipping makes one better able to see Bigfoot, UFOs and auras.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Eric573]
#18780977 - 08/31/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eric573 said: Almost anyone who is curious about the world will be interested in psychedelics. Curiosity drives intelligence. And of course intelligent people are more enjoyable to be around for a great number of reasons.
Not everyone I know thinks that way. Sure I know a few people are like that, but I also know some people who like to take 10 hits of acid on super bowl Sunday while snorting coke because that's a fun Sunday night. There's nothing wrong with doing that, but not everyone who indulges in psychedelics are interested in personal growth.
I find most trippers to be stubborn. They're caught in this world view that they have the answers to the universe, and that they know what's best for everyone. They also make absurd arguments, like "Acid isn't dangerous," and, "I can't get addicted. It's impossible to be addicted to psychedelics."
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: r72rock]
#18781650 - 08/31/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Uh, it isn't dangerous...it's nearly impossible to be addicted as tolerance builds at an alarming rate. Not really absurd arguments at all. I have reason some absurd agreements though.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18782887 - 08/31/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Strippers are definitely better than non-strippers just because.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: GreySatyr]
#18784684 - 09/01/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: Uh, it isn't dangerous...it's nearly impossible to be addicted as tolerance builds at an alarming rate. Not really absurd arguments at all. I have reason some absurd agreements though.
What? There are tons of dangers associated with the use of psychedelics. The mind can be a very fragile thing. There are tons of mental problems that can come up on a trip. There are risks, consequences, and rewards to psychedelics. A common issue heard is, "I didn't feel anything, so I took more. Then I had a bad trip." A bad trip can be dangerous.
And just because you build up a tolerance doesn't mean that it's not addictive. It's a repeated behavior that one does to achieve a desired effect or consequence. Just because gambling doesn't "build up a tolerance in your system" doesn't mean that gambling isn't addictive. I know lots of people who like to trip every weekend. Just look around on the Shroomery, you don't even have to know any personally. They even speak about the dangers on here. Lots of people have psychotic breaks, and lingering psychosis after a trip. HPPD is a very real thing. Like I said, these drugs also have risks and consequences associated with them. They can of course be dangerous.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: r72rock]
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Individuals with fragile minds probably shouldn't be interested. Trippers are not 'better', but do have the advantage of deciding for themselves what is good or bad for them. Choice is a beautiful thing.
Plus we get to go on field trips
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Haxx]
#18784974 - 09/01/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trippers are not 'better', but do have the advantage of deciding for themselves what is good or bad for them.
What made you come to this conclusion?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18784989 - 09/01/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
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Who is better is subjective, nobody is better or worse. Trippers make the decision to choose if tripping is good or bad, non-trippers (at this point realizing non-trippers could be ex-trippers) don't get to see for themselves, they just take franks word for it.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Haxx]
#18785194 - 09/01/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trippers make the decision to choose if tripping is good or bad, non-trippers (at this point realizing non-trippers could be ex-trippers) don't get to see for themselves, they just take franks word for it.
So there are no people that simply don't want to trip regardless of the law and facts?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18785277 - 09/01/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course people like that exist, but those people cannot make a truthful choice, how can you choose between 2 things if you haven't tried both, as in not tripping and tripping. How can you know something you don't, know what I mean?
If an individual doesn't know the law and facts and they decide to try something, they are likely one of those fragile minds you were speaking about.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Haxx]
#18785319 - 09/01/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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how can you choose between 2 things if you haven't tried both, as in not tripping and tripping. How can you know something you don't, know what I mean?
I haven't tried putting myself on fire, therefore I don't know whether I would like it or not. Is this the kind of logic you're portraying?
they are likely one of those fragile minds you were speaking about.
I never spoke about fragile minds, at least not in this correspondence between you and me.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18785610 - 09/01/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't say like or dislike, I said good or bad. Have you ever been burnt, didn't it teach you its bad for you. Otherwise we would never learn and learning is for winners 
My bad, mixing thoughts again with who said what. Out of interest, Do you believe trippers are better?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18787175 - 09/01/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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@Ice, do you ever get extremely overwhelmed by the absurdity of this whole shitshow while tripping? I've started trying heavy doses of LSD for the first time as i get tabs that are legitamately ~100-150 ug tabs, and 2-3 always results in a trip where every single fucking aspect of my existence seems to perfectly embody the absurd. The dissonance felt from being able to imagine such idealic realities, to feel like you are so much more than a sack of meat, but remain constantly reminded that such fantasies are only fantasies, a vain grasping of straws while tumbling through the molecular interactions which color our world.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Memories]
#18788029 - 09/02/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brother, I'm not kidding when I say this or exaggerating one little bit. I feel like that sober now every fucking second of every fucking minute of every fucking day and it's really fucking disheartening. Becker opened up a rabbit hole that I can't climb out of ever although I might have got here anyway. Tripping has no effect on me anymore. It's pointless. I do still like Ecstasy however. It's the only time I ever feel really good about anything now. I feel like the world is a graveyard of zombies and I'm just wandering around looking for a stage door I pray is out there somewhere. I'm pretty fucked. Old age ain't for sissies that's for sure. Not the way I'm doin it.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18788378 - 09/02/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Brother, I'm not kidding when I say this or exaggerating one little bit. I feel like that sober now every fucking second of every fucking minute of every fucking day and it's really fucking disheartening. Becker opened up a rabbit hole that I can't climb out of ever although I might have got here anyway. Tripping has no effect on me anymore. It's pointless. I do still like Ecstasy however. It's the only time I ever feel really good about anything now. I feel like the world is a graveyard of zombies and I'm just wandering around looking for a stage door I pray is out there somewhere. I'm pretty fucked. Old age ain't for sissies that's for sure. Not the way I'm doin it.
Dude this shit is constant for me too. Tripping just intensifies it so much, and it has turned me off from psychs for now with the exception of a mild LSD dose at a festival.
I'm being just as serious when i say this shit pervades my thoughts constantly. It's hard to pay attention to a lecture when I am constantly struggling with how to deal with the implications of the very nature of the universe.
And i've used mdma too much so im taking a break. Have you tried many opiates or benzodiazepines?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Memories]
#18788452 - 09/02/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've used some opiates with mixed results. Over all I just play it straight and take my lumps as best I can. It's brutal some days, the rest of the time it mostly feels unreal and slightly sinister. I believe you when you say you feel the same. I know you pretty well in that regard. And like you while everyone is talking about their most current drama or how pretty the trees are I'm just hanging on and trying not to scream. If I didn't laugh at it I'd probably have gone under by now.
This is it. This is the trip. One day I told the Universe to "bring it on" and this is what I got. What a cocky, stupid ass thing to say. Well I'm paying for it. 
Plus there's likely plenty out there going through much worse. I have a lot of empathy for them.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18788478 - 09/02/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said:This is it. This is the trip. One day I told the Universe to "bring it on" and this is what I got. What a cocky, stupid ass thing to say. Well I'm paying for it. ]
I remember the day I said the same. 
I'm in the same ilk as you guys but I don't get it all the time, only when I concentrate or deliberately trip myself out in that way. I don't know if I'm able to turn it on and off at will somehow or if I'll progress to more absurdity, but in a beautiful wacked out way it seems to make sense somehow most of the time (in a materialistic way at least).
I do find it fascinating however that seeing things closer to the truth has the ability to break you as much as tripping yourself out into a paranoid/anxious/depressed state of mind does which could be said to be further from the truth. I think it's a trade off for sensitivity, in that the more sensitive you are to the universe the more it can impact you negatively.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: lolwut]
#18788534 - 09/02/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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For me it's age, pain and loss of energy mostly I think. I can't distract myself with women and feats of physical prowess anymore. So beware and enjoy everything you can while it lasts because nothing does.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18788552 - 09/02/13 07:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds horrible. Thanks for the advice. "Enjoy it while you're young"
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: lolwut]
#18788620 - 09/02/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh it's fucking gruesome.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: lolwut]
#18788634 - 09/02/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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lolwut said: Sounds horrible. Thanks for the advice. "Enjoy it while you're young"
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: LunarEclipse]
#18788657 - 09/02/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Abby tripping on mushrooms?
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