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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18780440 - 08/31/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18780819 - 08/31/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tipping makes one better able to see Bigfoot, UFOs and auras.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Eric573]
#18780977 - 08/31/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eric573 said: Almost anyone who is curious about the world will be interested in psychedelics. Curiosity drives intelligence. And of course intelligent people are more enjoyable to be around for a great number of reasons.
Not everyone I know thinks that way. Sure I know a few people are like that, but I also know some people who like to take 10 hits of acid on super bowl Sunday while snorting coke because that's a fun Sunday night. There's nothing wrong with doing that, but not everyone who indulges in psychedelics are interested in personal growth.
I find most trippers to be stubborn. They're caught in this world view that they have the answers to the universe, and that they know what's best for everyone. They also make absurd arguments, like "Acid isn't dangerous," and, "I can't get addicted. It's impossible to be addicted to psychedelics."
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: r72rock] 1
#18781497 - 08/31/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is practically impossible to get addicted to Drano.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: r72rock]
#18781650 - 08/31/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Uh, it isn't dangerous...it's nearly impossible to be addicted as tolerance builds at an alarming rate. Not really absurd arguments at all. I have reason some absurd agreements though.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18782887 - 08/31/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Strippers are definitely better than non-strippers just because.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: GreySatyr]
#18784684 - 09/01/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: Uh, it isn't dangerous...it's nearly impossible to be addicted as tolerance builds at an alarming rate. Not really absurd arguments at all. I have reason some absurd agreements though.
What? There are tons of dangers associated with the use of psychedelics. The mind can be a very fragile thing. There are tons of mental problems that can come up on a trip. There are risks, consequences, and rewards to psychedelics. A common issue heard is, "I didn't feel anything, so I took more. Then I had a bad trip." A bad trip can be dangerous.
And just because you build up a tolerance doesn't mean that it's not addictive. It's a repeated behavior that one does to achieve a desired effect or consequence. Just because gambling doesn't "build up a tolerance in your system" doesn't mean that gambling isn't addictive. I know lots of people who like to trip every weekend. Just look around on the Shroomery, you don't even have to know any personally. They even speak about the dangers on here. Lots of people have psychotic breaks, and lingering psychosis after a trip. HPPD is a very real thing. Like I said, these drugs also have risks and consequences associated with them. They can of course be dangerous.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: r72rock]
#18784934 - 09/01/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Individuals with fragile minds probably shouldn't be interested. Trippers are not 'better', but do have the advantage of deciding for themselves what is good or bad for them. Choice is a beautiful thing.
Plus we get to go on field trips
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Haxx]
#18784974 - 09/01/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trippers are not 'better', but do have the advantage of deciding for themselves what is good or bad for them.
What made you come to this conclusion?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18784989 - 09/01/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tripping.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18785015 - 09/01/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who is better is subjective, nobody is better or worse. Trippers make the decision to choose if tripping is good or bad, non-trippers (at this point realizing non-trippers could be ex-trippers) don't get to see for themselves, they just take franks word for it.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Haxx]
#18785194 - 09/01/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trippers make the decision to choose if tripping is good or bad, non-trippers (at this point realizing non-trippers could be ex-trippers) don't get to see for themselves, they just take franks word for it.
So there are no people that simply don't want to trip regardless of the law and facts?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18785277 - 09/01/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course people like that exist, but those people cannot make a truthful choice, how can you choose between 2 things if you haven't tried both, as in not tripping and tripping. How can you know something you don't, know what I mean?
If an individual doesn't know the law and facts and they decide to try something, they are likely one of those fragile minds you were speaking about.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Haxx]
#18785319 - 09/01/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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how can you choose between 2 things if you haven't tried both, as in not tripping and tripping. How can you know something you don't, know what I mean?
I haven't tried putting myself on fire, therefore I don't know whether I would like it or not. Is this the kind of logic you're portraying?
they are likely one of those fragile minds you were speaking about.
I never spoke about fragile minds, at least not in this correspondence between you and me.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: liquidlounge]
#18785610 - 09/01/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't say like or dislike, I said good or bad. Have you ever been burnt, didn't it teach you its bad for you. Otherwise we would never learn and learning is for winners 
My bad, mixing thoughts again with who said what. Out of interest, Do you believe trippers are better?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18787175 - 09/01/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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@Ice, do you ever get extremely overwhelmed by the absurdity of this whole shitshow while tripping? I've started trying heavy doses of LSD for the first time as i get tabs that are legitamately ~100-150 ug tabs, and 2-3 always results in a trip where every single fucking aspect of my existence seems to perfectly embody the absurd. The dissonance felt from being able to imagine such idealic realities, to feel like you are so much more than a sack of meat, but remain constantly reminded that such fantasies are only fantasies, a vain grasping of straws while tumbling through the molecular interactions which color our world.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Memories]
#18788029 - 09/02/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brother, I'm not kidding when I say this or exaggerating one little bit. I feel like that sober now every fucking second of every fucking minute of every fucking day and it's really fucking disheartening. Becker opened up a rabbit hole that I can't climb out of ever although I might have got here anyway. Tripping has no effect on me anymore. It's pointless. I do still like Ecstasy however. It's the only time I ever feel really good about anything now. I feel like the world is a graveyard of zombies and I'm just wandering around looking for a stage door I pray is out there somewhere. I'm pretty fucked. Old age ain't for sissies that's for sure. Not the way I'm doin it.
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Icelander]
#18788378 - 09/02/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Brother, I'm not kidding when I say this or exaggerating one little bit. I feel like that sober now every fucking second of every fucking minute of every fucking day and it's really fucking disheartening. Becker opened up a rabbit hole that I can't climb out of ever although I might have got here anyway. Tripping has no effect on me anymore. It's pointless. I do still like Ecstasy however. It's the only time I ever feel really good about anything now. I feel like the world is a graveyard of zombies and I'm just wandering around looking for a stage door I pray is out there somewhere. I'm pretty fucked. Old age ain't for sissies that's for sure. Not the way I'm doin it.
Dude this shit is constant for me too. Tripping just intensifies it so much, and it has turned me off from psychs for now with the exception of a mild LSD dose at a festival.
I'm being just as serious when i say this shit pervades my thoughts constantly. It's hard to pay attention to a lecture when I am constantly struggling with how to deal with the implications of the very nature of the universe.
And i've used mdma too much so im taking a break. Have you tried many opiates or benzodiazepines?
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Re: Why trippers are better than non-trippers [Re: Memories]
#18788452 - 09/02/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've used some opiates with mixed results. Over all I just play it straight and take my lumps as best I can. It's brutal some days, the rest of the time it mostly feels unreal and slightly sinister. I believe you when you say you feel the same. I know you pretty well in that regard. And like you while everyone is talking about their most current drama or how pretty the trees are I'm just hanging on and trying not to scream. If I didn't laugh at it I'd probably have gone under by now.
This is it. This is the trip. One day I told the Universe to "bring it on" and this is what I got. What a cocky, stupid ass thing to say. Well I'm paying for it. 
Plus there's likely plenty out there going through much worse. I have a lot of empathy for them.
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