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The enlightened ones.
#18759805 - 08/26/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://viooz.co/movies/15612-the-grammar-of-happiness-2012.html
Take the time to watch this and see what you think. I think this whole tribe of "primitives" is what some here might call enlightened. It's a beautiful video imo.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (08/26/13 02:33 PM)
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: Icelander]
#18760017 - 08/26/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just watched a half hour of it, and so far it's intriguing. 
I've always been interested in language, because well language is what makes up the universe.
What lead you to this video Ice?
Anything specific you took from this?
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A thread I started in another forum led me to this. What I take is that the only population of humans I have any admiration for are tiny isolated so called primitive tribes that have yet to interact with modern cultures and not many of them. Unfortunately, usually by the time I've heard of these rare tiny isolated groups their beautiful cultures and lifestyles have been destroyed.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (08/26/13 03:36 PM)
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: Icelander]
#18760457 - 08/26/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: so called primitive tribes
by uneducated, racist people... any modern cultural anthropologist/ethnographer won't say this.
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#18760806 - 08/26/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's of little import to my OP.
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: Icelander]
#18760899 - 08/26/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: A thread I started in another forum led me to this. What I take is that the only population of humans I have any admiration for are tiny isolated so called primitive tribes that have yet to interact with modern cultures and not many of them. Unfortunately, usually by the time I've heard of these rare tiny isolated groups their beautiful cultures and lifestyles have been destroyed.
I just finished it, and I find it sad that Dan couldn't go back to visit. 
Sometimes I wonder about what would happen if everyone would revert to the "indiginous" lifestyle.
I think it would be a great idea, not only for mother earth, but for us as well.
The only thing I can see us losing is our technologies.
But what has technology done for us?
Sure, it has made life a heck of a lot more comfortable and enjoyable. But at what cost?
We're destroying our home planet in the name of entertainment.
Thoughts?
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: Icelander]
#18760963 - 08/26/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: That's of little import to my OP.
Perhaps, but it's important to me to point out that the idea that there are primitive and modern cultures is merely ethnocentrism. These cultures may appear to have not changed over time to people who have no idea what to look for, but anthropology provides plenty of evidence that these culture's ideas, customs, and behaviors do change greatly over time, they have a rich cultural history.
I'll watch your video when I have 50 minutes to spare.
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#18761134 - 08/26/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're going to like it.
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: Icelander]
#18762203 - 08/27/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy fuck, those guys are amazing. When I opened the video I never in a billion years expected to see anything like that.
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: Icelander] 1
#18762470 - 08/27/13 03:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: You're going to like it. 
Watched it, and it was totally beautiful, but ultimately I've been left totally fucking livid about Chomsky and just the overall tendency of mainstream science to forbid certain forms of theories to be classified as science, is a bunch of fundamentalist bullshit.
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#18762501 - 08/27/13 03:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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CosmicJoke said:
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Icelander said: You're going to like it. 
Watched it, and it was totally beautiful, but ultimately I've been left totally fucking livid about Chomsky and just the overall tendency of mainstream science to forbid certain forms of theories to be classified as science, is a bunch of fundamentalist bullshit.
Science ceases to be science when desire overtakes forgiveness
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: crkhd]
#18762520 - 08/27/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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CosmicJoke said:
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Icelander said: You're going to like it. 
Watched it, and it was totally beautiful, but ultimately I've been left totally fucking livid about Chomsky and just the overall tendency of mainstream science to forbid certain forms of theories to be classified as science, is a bunch of fundamentalist bullshit.
Science ceases to be science when desire overtakes forgiveness
Well that's pretty vague..... But when one attempts to cock block other researchers because their alternative viewpoints threaten one's status, one is no longer a scientist but a fundamentalist materialist.
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#18762531 - 08/27/13 04:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Touche
Sometimes it comes right back down to basics. And as a Self-employed theoretical physicist it's brutal at times, to see straight to the end beyond I, because one day "I" will be an obsolete world. Welcome to the Overmind of mankind.
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#18762765 - 08/27/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: You're going to like it. 
Watched it, and it was totally beautiful, but ultimately I've been left totally fucking livid about Chomsky and just the overall tendency of mainstream science to forbid certain forms of theories to be classified as science, is a bunch of fundamentalist bullshit.
He came off as a real shit didn't he.
Well that's pretty vague..... But when one attempts to cock block other researchers because their alternative viewpoints threaten one's status, one is no longer a scientist but a fundamentalist materialist.
This is totally the point I was attempting to make in my thread here entitled "Winding Down"
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Edited by Icelander (08/27/13 07:32 AM)
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: Icelander]
#18763045 - 08/27/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The recursion argument.

And then:
No and then:
And then:
No and then:
And then:
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Re: The enlightened ones. [Re: Icelander]
#18764297 - 08/27/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wish I knew something about the formulae for grammar in linguistics. What I learned in two courses of the theories of knowledge at the University of Maryland's doctoral level, never got close to the Harvard and M.I.T. levels. Interesting. Sad, for multiple reasons, especially because of the appearance of TV.
Most interesting is the effect of tenses on the psychological development of people, and how the linguistic referent of the present seemed to prevent anxiety (including, no doubt, death anxiety) from poisoning the moment-to-moment life of these people.
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MarkostheGnostic said: I wish I knew something about the formulae for grammar in linguistics. What I learned in two courses of the theories of knowledge at the University of Maryland's doctoral level, never got close to the Harvard and M.I.T. levels. Interesting. Sad, for multiple reasons, especially because of the appearance of TV.
Most interesting is the effect of tenses on the psychological development of people, and how the linguistic referent of the present seemed to prevent anxiety (including, no doubt, death anxiety) from poisoning the moment-to-moment life of these people.
Personally, I think there'd be far more sanity for us Westerners if we removed the third person singular present form of 'to be' from our language.
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I just finished watching this myself. Very interesting video.
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HalluciNate said: I just finished it, and I find it sad that Dan couldn't go back to visit. 
I thought that was pretty lousy too. He wanted to go back, and they wanted him back... but some officials somewhere didn't want him to because..? He was bringing new information to the table that challenged some famous professor?
Kinda two parts to the vid. The part about the tribe and their culture and how they seemed to be very happy with what they had. Near the beginning when he was buying supplies for them he mentioned that phrase they say, something like "we're beginning to almost want" 
Then the other part was all political and "no I'm right!" That part was a little depressing to see people bickering about.
Great vid Icelander
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