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Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness?
#18759356 - 08/26/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been wondering how I "did it", how I seem to perceive a completely different world to my friends and family now, and if I care to notice, the public too.
I can't think of anything special I did except extreme levels of constant meditation, until it became automatic and I was doing it even during daily life, driving, talking, etc. My mind is largely still.
But I did at some stage, probably more due to persecutory delusions than anything else, turn my back on the culture and begin to open myself up to other possibilities by using my nervous system to try and prod and investigate reality directly.
The culture really cheapens us. It's like McKenna says, it invites us to degrade ourselves. You don't see how much it destroys your potential until you truly break free of it and go into a completely unexplored state of mind which has coming with it the fact that everything you used to know is now changed by your higher state.
And "all you have to do is turn your back on a culture that has gone stale and dead, and get with the program of a living world."
And that's really all you have to do, it's not a challenge. Just turn off what your culture gave you and your mind will do the rest. It doesn't even really take that much courage because once you're out of it none of it affects you, it's truly your world you're left in.
Culture, the "con game"... it's a great way to just piss your life away.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes]
#18759395 - 08/26/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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But it sure can be great fun.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes] 1
#18759410 - 08/26/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're not fooling me here at least. I just remember a thread you started about how you disapproved of race mixing. If that's not culture at work I don't know what is. And that's not all by a long shot.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: Icelander]
#18759449 - 08/26/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you're right when you've said that we can't ever get away from culture. Even "turning your back on it" is participation via opting out - you're choosing to be absent. Culture is like the manifestation of human thinking. I think once we get over the fact that we operate within a much larger group, the sooner we can have fun with all that entails.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#18759822 - 08/26/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the situation is a bit different from that. I of course believe in human ENTERPRISE, I believe in what society is doing and the human endeavours, but I don't think we should base it on cultural values that are handed down by someone who was once original, I think we need to be original, every day. We need to renew the culture, with new humor, new art, new drama, new acts of fun, etc.
You can be part of it all but not be in the culture as such. You make your own culture, people will get it, people are reasonable.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes]
#18759843 - 08/26/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the only thing that makes culture so enticing for people is that there doesn't seem to be anything else.
I think smart people have a bit of an instinct to not take part of this meme-processing behaviour, it makes them stupider.
Eventually if you take it all the way and stay proactive so as to not alienate yourself completely you touch upon reality as a living presence, and that is the holy grail you've been looking for in culture. And if it's there, in your mind, it can't be in culture. Culture is a con game.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes]
#18759925 - 08/26/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your op seems pompous. It reads to me more like an inflated ego rather than higher consciousness.
Your posts always have an interesting take on things though
Edited by cez (08/26/13 03:15 PM)
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: cez]
#18760294 - 08/26/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wouldn't consider the negation of culture a prerequisite for higher consciousness, but recognizing it as a necessary provisional tool can't hurt.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: LuxLuthier]
#18761885 - 08/26/13 10:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I can see it being a little pompous. I think I am a bit alienated and like to take stabs at the global culture. I only alienate myself from it because we could do so much better.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes]
#18761897 - 08/26/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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IME it's so easy to get caught up in this arrogant attitude when isolating. It's something I'm working on myself. Part of the solution is forcing myself into different types of social environments as much as possible.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes]
#18767697 - 08/28/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What are we talking about when we say "culture" here?
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes]
#18771887 - 08/29/13 05:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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if you are outside looking at some culture, then you are looking at something instead of being engaged that can be great, I like looking at things and it is hard to watch while doing
you may have to step aside for a while until you can dance to the tune that is playing.
then the question is - how to be limber when your chance comes again, and you do want to participate in what you are watching (and waiting for)
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: redgreenvines]
#18771906 - 08/29/13 05:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes how, how?
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes]
#18781798 - 08/31/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, it's impossible. Not turning your back on culture may be though.
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Re: Is turning your back on culture the only prerequisite for higher consciousness? [Re: circastes]
#18782582 - 08/31/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about turning your back on your preconceived notions and fixed perspective?
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