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LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality
    #18759062 - 08/26/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I want to have kids. When I get married, I plan on living a happy life, hopefully with three children who I love.

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/grofchro.htm

Should I be fearful for my ability to create and pass down good genes? Studies have shown that LSD can cause mutations in children. I have only dropped around 6/7 times, but I'm still very nervous that all this "safe self-exploration" could have a negative effect down the line. My uncle was a deadhead (linked to the family), and needless to say he dropped acid a lot. One of his children is completely normal; however, the other suffers from an undiagnosed mental disorder similar to Aspergers, but not exact.

Do you guys have experiences with acid-doers that have had mutations in their children's DNA? Should we be scared? If I were guaranteed to have messed up kids if I continued to take acid, I'd honestly say I would stop. I love tripping, but is it worth it?


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18759073 - 08/26/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How the hell would it affect your child?


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: johnbarrowman]
    #18759095 - 08/26/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like bullshit to me.  :shrug:


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #18759134 - 08/26/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You are fine. A lot of those mental health effects can be contributed to diet. ie. Gluten

Also the dosage they are talking about is excessive

Vann (111) reported that dosages of 24,000 micrograms per kg produced no significant increase in the frequency of recessive lethals, whereas a dosage of 470,000 micrograms per kg did.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: ELP420]
    #18759223 - 08/26/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: johnbarrowman]
    #18759369 - 08/26/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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How the hell would it affect your child?




This is why I posted a link...


However, for the lazier folk:

They say LSD can result in chromosome mutation, which can then be passed down to children. On the other hand, as ELP420 graciously quoted from the article, the study is done at high dosages. But it still makes you think.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18759398 - 08/26/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My father and mother ate lots of acid in 70's. Me and my siblings turned out pretty much as 'normal' as you can get.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Deemstar]
    #18759415 - 08/26/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ive done alot of LSD before my son wad born and I think hes a healthy 7 year old. Hed good at math though. Like really good, he was able to add and subtract before he started school and can do big problems in his head. Now im not saying LSD made him smart just adding that it made no difference in his development. Now I wonder what would happen to a pregnant mother who took LSD. Would that effect the developing fetus in a negative way?


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: aw11driver]
    #18759435 - 08/26/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Now I wonder what would happen to a pregnant mother who took LSD. Would that effect the developing fetus in a negative way?




I've got a friend who's mother dropped acid a couple times while she was pregnant with him, he's as healthy and intelligent as it gets, way better off than the half dozen fetal alcohol babies I know.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Deemstar]
    #18759448 - 08/26/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

As a general rule of thumb, pregnant and nursing mothers shouldn't ingest chemicals that mess with chromosomes LOL, no matter how small of a chance it is...

Or chemicals at all. Mothers who smoke and drink can do awful things to the fetuses, thus carrying on into life.


But thanks for all the info guys. Especially to the fathers who have posted :smile:


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18759506 - 08/26/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Would you smoke tobacco or drink diet sodas while pregnant?

Both have Been linked to mutagens.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18759534 - 08/26/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's bullshit. I tripped over 100 times between ages 16 and 22. My kids turned out fine. They're 13 and 17 (boys) and they're both in perfect health, they do well in school and sports, and neither have any interest in drugs. It boggles my mind.. at that time in my life I was a fat lazy burnout smoking and tripping every chance I got.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Universe]
    #18759645 - 08/26/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Taking LSD while pregnant is not recommended. There is no way it can change your chromosomes. Once you have them (when you are created), they stay that way. My dad did a hell of a lot more LSD then I will ever do and i'm fine. :dawerp:


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Labs4858]
    #18759672 - 08/26/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

And.. The only way a chromosomal mutation can occur is during meiosis.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Labs4858]
    #18760283 - 08/26/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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And.. The only way a chromosomal mutation can occur is during meiosis.





So we think....

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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18760301 - 08/26/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

my vote is in for a myth. Don't get yourself all worked up about it :smile:


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Labs4858]
    #18760308 - 08/26/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

and if YOUR chromosomes change then YOU get disabilities :smile:


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Labs4858]
    #18760368 - 08/26/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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and if YOUR chromosomes change then YOU get disabilities :smile:





Lol I'll take the risk.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18760374 - 08/26/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

no i mean down syndrome is from having 1 less chromosome right? other disabilities are from having mutated chromosomes. Ever seen someone get one of those "born-with" disabilities during their life? no :smile: shroom on.... lucy on....


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Labs4858]
    #18760403 - 08/26/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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no i mean down syndrome is from having 1 less chromosome right? other disabilities are from having mutated chromosomes. Ever seen someone get one of those "born-with" disabilities during their life? no :smile: shroom on.... lucy on....





Trisomy 21 = Downs. So 1 more chromosome, not 1 less.

But people develop Alzheimer's and Parkinson's later on in life...


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18760456 - 08/26/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Women taking a psychedelic while pregnant, on the other had, is a bad idea, imo.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: Universe]
    #18761089 - 08/26/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It's bullshit. I tripped over 100 times between ages 16 and 22. My kids turned out fine. They're 13 and 17 (boys) and they're both in perfect health, they do well in school and sports, and neither have any interest in drugs. It boggles my mind.. at that time in my life I was a fat lazy burnout smoking and tripping every chance I got.




Ok I have to chime in. I personally believe this to be propaganda bullshit based on personal experience and not scientific study.....my reasons: Like universe I did ALOT of cid in the 70's and early 80s. I used to sell so it was basically free for me. We would megadose VERY often because of the rapid tolerance building. I have no earthly idea how much I did over a ten year period. In '83 I got married and when my wife got preggers she made my life an absolute hell. These stupid studies made her completely paranoid. We watched our kids for years waiting for the problems(she had me convinced I screwed my kids). My 3 children are now grown,beautiful,and healthy. Much better in the head than their father EVER was. I put this myth(propaganda)right up there with masturbation caused blindness and marijuana caused schizophrenia. Take it for whats its worth.

PS- never had flashbacks either!


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #18761412 - 08/26/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This a great thread. Didn't expect so many people who have used LSD with kids to chime in. Also, it's cool that baby boomers are starting to join this site. :smile:


I encourage people to archive this thread (Save As...), as it's a good piece of anti-propaganda.


lol at the way I worded that second sentence.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: s240779]
    #18761558 - 08/26/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have 3 kids 2 honor students and all even tempered (15, 13, 8).  I have been doing it since I was 14.


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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: s240779]
    #18761712 - 08/26/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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This a great thread. Didn't expect so many people who have used LSD with kids to chime in. Also, it's cool that baby boomers are starting to join this site. :smile:


I encourage people to archive this thread (Save As...), as it's a good piece of anti-propaganda.


lol at the way I worded that second sentence.





Glad I provided something the community (some of it) likes :smile: :aweohyou:

All these examples are making me feel a lot better, might drop tonight (JK) (Maybe not...)

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Re: LSD's Chromosome-Morphing Effect - Myth or Scary Reality [Re: s240779]
    #18876617 - 09/22/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Similar thread on DMT-Nexus. Reports of young children trying psychedelics.


Children and Psychedelics


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