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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Mycelium-yum] 1
#18742234 - 08/22/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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that .gif of long haired Batman makes me want to... I dunno. Follow my dreams. get more out of life. etc.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Icelander]
#18742385 - 08/22/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Icelander said: What is it?
I'll start although I make no claims to the authenticity of my choice.
http://www.dr-dream.com/Senoi.html
2013: Netherlands, for personal freedom (even whatever is illegal generally passes if its benign, like LSD) and as a cultural mecca.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Icelander]
#18742692 - 08/22/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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For now I like the French because they know the value of good food and drink (I was genuinely stunned when I realised the whole of France has huge gourmet local markets everyone buys from, and it wasn't a tourist thing). I also am in love with greek people and food, they are the friendliest I have come across by some way and the food is even better than in France.
I have no idea about the past but that group sounds extremely interesting, I will have to finish reading that website.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Icelander]
#18742743 - 08/22/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Icelander said: psychological/social development. Subdued enemies without much warfare.
"Magic" they way it's supposed to be used in this corrupt world:
The Senoi claim there has not been a violent crime or an intercommunal conflict for a space of two or three hundred years because of the insight and inventiveness of the Tohats of their various communities. The foothill tribes which surround the Central Mountain Range have such a firm belief in the magical powers of this Highland group that they give the territory a wide berth. From all we could learn, their psychological knowledge of strangers in their territory, the Senoi said they could very easily devise means of scaring them off. They did not practice black magic, but allowed the nomadic hillfolk surrounding them to think that they did if strangers invaded their territory.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: liquidlounge]
#18742886 - 08/22/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Icelander said: What is it?
I'll start although I make no claims to the authenticity of my choice.
http://www.dr-dream.com/Senoi.html
The Dutch, Opium from the east indies, cocaine factory from WWI-II, cannabis nowadays in coffeeshops. They know what's up.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Icelander]
#18743034 - 08/22/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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i would like pre-1959 Tibet or modern day Bhutan, due to those cultures' strong association with vajrayana buddhism. reading biographies of tibetan masters who lived in tibet paint the lifestyle as very interesting and fulfilling, though i realize like other cultures it also had its drawbacks
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: deff]
#18743058 - 08/22/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I remember reading 7 Years in Tibet and wanting to be there.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Icelander] 1
#18743098 - 08/22/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Feudal Japan. The idea that there were Shoguns and families that constantly fought for control for hundreds years just amazes me. To them, that was just the way the "government" was. Whoever had the most powerful army ruled. And they were an island that was separated from the rest of the world, and it's just interesting to see a culture develop on its own.
They even had an era where the didn't allow people from outside of Japan to enter, and had no contact with the outside world. They were all about honor and family. Not that I necessarily agree with their principles, I just find it fascinating.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: r72rock]
#18743126 - 08/22/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ahh I was discussing that earlier with a friend, I still can't fathom ritual suicide in respect of honour. In modern days I just can't comprehend it other than respect it.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Beanhead]
#18743166 - 08/22/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Beanhead said: Ahh I was discussing that earlier with a friend, I still can't fathom ritual suicide in respect of honour. In modern days I just can't comprehend it other than respect it.
In said society, becoming "dishonored" was effectively a death sentence in its own. You were persona non grata to anyone who mattered in your life. Just think about the business people who kill themselves when their life's work goes belly up, or people in small towns who kill themselves when their outed as gay or something else equally socially bad.
When you put it in the context of their culture, the only thing unusual is that they had a name and ritual for it, and that it achieved something other than the act itself; your families honor was restored. That fact must have created an additional pressure to do it. Whereas in our culture nothing good can come from a family member who kills themselves, in this context it actually serves to restore the family.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: woaronun]
#18743368 - 08/22/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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woaronun said: Even if "white" was a culture, the influence is temporary. How long has it been, 500 years? Not much really.
White is a culture that crumblebum is a part of Nah I'm just kiddin. I'd have to say.. Anarchists with "extreme" beliefs on how to reach that point...
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: HalfLight]
#18743471 - 08/22/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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White Culture: build empires, absorb and then destroy other cultures, do science.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: crumblebum]
#18743992 - 08/22/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Vikings were pretty rad. Pillaging, raping, looting, and conflagrating everything you want with no wishy-washy Christian excuses or apologetics, and I admire their heroic ideal of the warrior chieftain.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: deCypher]
#18744078 - 08/22/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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deCypher said: The Vikings were pretty rad. Pillaging, raping, looting, and conflagrating everything you want with no wishy-washy Christian excuses or apologetics, and I admire their heroic ideal of the warrior chieftain. 
Have you read the Odyssey? One of my favorite lines in a book, basically it details Odysseus immediately after Troy where he destroys a city and kills everyone in it, retreating before their allies can catch him. Homer shamelessly depicts this barbaric act as heroic
Not that I agree with the action, but Homer's complete absence of morality is hilarious. Christians are no different in action but have polluted the world with their shame, a religion built on hypocrisy
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Repertoire89]
#18744083 - 08/22/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think I would categorize Homer as amoral; rather he embodies the cultural morality at his time, which is significantly different from the Judeo-Christian system of ethics that tends to permeate modern Western culture. I agree with you about Christianity, though.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: deCypher] 1
#18744134 - 08/22/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Another great line from the Iliad, during a battle some guy would start yelling about how he would die before giving his ground. "The heroic and brave Agammemnon". And then literally like two sentences later the guy would be shamelessly running away. Think this happened like 3 times in 2 pages at some point.
Simpler times
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Repertoire89]
#18744139 - 08/22/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: deCypher]
#18756771 - 08/25/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/isolated-zoe-tribe/
This is an amazing documentary. Check it out folks.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: Icelander]
#18758734 - 08/26/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people
These guys have no recursion in their language, so they basically live solely in the moment because they have no words for past.
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Re: your favorite human society/culture? [Re: tinfoilhatter]
#18758797 - 08/26/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those folk are righteous. No belief in a supreme being and would not believe in Jesus because the guy preaching had never seen him. This is superior to most people in this culture.
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