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tr1pp1n
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inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol
#18758684 - 08/26/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey everyone on shroomery,
somebody who isnt me has a spore syringe , but does not own a auto-clave or glovebox to inoculate his presure cooked jars.
now the question: can he inoculate open air without desinfection spray or alcohol? just burn the syringe needle with fire and then inoculate? how will be the contamination rate.
he does not want to waste his spore syringe and destroy it by contamination.
Using the PF-Tek , using 2 aluminium foils (not the lid-tek)
thanks for reading, and thanks for your answers.
tr1pp1n
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Stromrider
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: tr1pp1n] 1
#18758689 - 08/26/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tell your friend to make an account and ask for himself
Also tell your friend to download the lets grow mushrooms video series
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tr1pp1n
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: Stromrider]
#18758693 - 08/26/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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to make it clear, somebody who isnt me (SWIM) is often used in forums to make clear Im not doing any Illegal.
SWIM is registerd here.
dont be so rude, (sw)im getting started. 
I just wonder if this syringe is wasted when using it without working sterile , got it from a vendor.
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Stromrider
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: tr1pp1n]
#18758704 - 08/26/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not trying to be rude. Trying to help out bud! Watching that video is the best thing you can do right now. You can even watch the first 4 parts on youtube
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: tr1pp1n]
#18758705 - 08/26/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Most people here will not answer swim...besides it does nothing for you.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: tr1pp1n]
#18758707 - 08/26/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're not fooling anyone but yourself using swim.
Get a SAB and some iso, should only be like $15 or so unless you can find a box from a friend, don't be cheap.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: Stromrider]
#18758710 - 08/26/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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And yes you can inoc in open air with flame sterilizing successfully 
Now go watch the video and report back with your results
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: tr1pp1n]
#18758720 - 08/26/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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tr1pp1n said: to make it clear, somebody who isnt me (SWIM) is often used in forums to make clear Im not doing any Illegal.
SWIM is registerd here.
dont be so rude, (sw)im getting started. 
I just wonder if this syringe is wasted when using it without working sterile , got it from a vendor.
To make it clear... Your a fucking retard if you think saying swim will somehow help you avoid prosecution if they were to somhow build a case on you. Aside from that it's annoying as shit (as is saying your pets, etc.. are doing it)
Your chance of getting in trouble for asking a question on cultivation is nil. But if your that overly paranoid, there is a simple solution... Don't participate in illegal activities.
All that said I wish you the best of luck in growing your shrooms... Just drop the swim bs and you will get a lot more help.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: tr1pp1n]
#18758721 - 08/26/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey bud, to answer your question. yes you can inoculate successfully without the spray or glovebox. although it is not recommended. ive done a couple of my last jars without them. and they are fully colonized now. so if it need be to do the procedure without them just sterilize that needle after every hole just to be safe.
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tr1pp1n
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: miw4life]
#18758869 - 08/26/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey thanks for all that answers, I think youre right.
Im new to this community, I read alot about mushrooms and watch videos about it, but in every serious video it says you have to work clean else you will get contamination - worse case scenario for a newbie that want to be succesful.
thats why I thought I should wait with starting and gather all the tools and materials I need.
I mean I have: PC JARS VERM. BROWN RICE S. SYRINGE
Dont have: GLOVE BOX ALCOHOL (95%) GLOVES (STERILE ONES)

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miw4life said: hey bud, to answer your question. yes you can inoculate successfully without the spray or glovebox. although it is not recommended. ive done a couple of my last jars without them. and they are fully colonized now. so if it need be to do the procedure without them just sterilize that needle after every hole just to be safe.
thanks for that answer!
I just gonna try it , it seems like its trial and error in the beginning. Or starting of with perfect tools and materials you need.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: tr1pp1n]
#18759080 - 08/26/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Go buy a bottle of 70% ISO and a roll of paper towels. It'll cost $5.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: grainbrain]
#18759313 - 08/26/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just cheap, clean rubber gloves rubbed with alcohol are fine. When the alcohol dries your gloves become sterile enough. For a SAB, you can use a cardboard box with Saran Wrap over the top. Just get creative with the equipment you have. Don't risk wasting your spores through bad methods.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: Stratman]
#18759517 - 08/26/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've innoc'd plenty of times in open air, but I always use alcohol to swab down the inoculation point and I flame sterilize. It can be done, but I would at least go buy some alcohol. You can get a bottle for a dollar.
I'd recommend just buying a tub and building a SAB. It's not that hard, a tub costs you maybe 10. Get a knife and cut out arm holes. Viola, a still air box.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: Stratman]
#18759681 - 08/26/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stratman said: For a SAB, you can use a cardboard box with Saran Wrap over the top. Just get creative with the equipment you have. Don't risk wasting your spores through bad methods.
This. Equipment can be substituted if you absolutely have to. Proper technique cannot.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18759814 - 08/26/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alcohol is very cheap. A tote is around 10-15$
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: tr1pp1n]
#18760047 - 08/26/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Buy 70% alcohol
Edited by Stromrider (08/26/13 03:30 PM)
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: Stromrider]
#18760205 - 08/26/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you have corn, you have alcohol. If you dont have corn, you are an ET & maybe they even have corn. Hell, its easier to make alcohol than it is to grow shrooms. SAB is also easy & cheap. My 9 yo son does all this with his oysters (little fucker loves the little fuckers). I understand being frugal, but don't be cheap. You will only let yourself down. As for the SWIM BS, there is this funny part of the law called conspiracy to (enter crime here). If SWIM commits a crime & you help him (such as by seeking out information to help facilitate a crime), you are just as guilty as SWIM. I have a buddy who is serving time right now because he gave an encryption program to a "friend" who turned out to be an avid fan of kiddie porn. Because they had a text from the perv saying he wanted to to protect his "secret porn stash" the DA argued that my buddy knew what that porn was. It being a bench trial, the judge found for the DA. Now my buddy is labeled a perv by society.
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: Lingabhakt]
#18760261 - 08/26/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice crazy-person rant
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: Lingabhakt]
#18760325 - 08/26/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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That was very entertaining!
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Re: inoculate jars without glovebox and alcohol [Re: Pestile]
#18760523 - 08/26/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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